"Tekken 5 Circus: Run Mishimas, Kazamas, Williams, everybody! -JAGUAR LOOSE!!" Tekken 5 King FAQ (for Arcade and PS2) Ver 4.1 by Jaguar_King (vf_1x@hotmail.com) Last Update: 06.16.07 From now on, you can find this file in the following sites: GameFAQs TekkenZaibatsu.com (under the Tekken 5 character FAQs section) http://www.geocities.com/vf_1x/t5king.txt Best viewed in Notepad/Wordpad, font Courier New, size 10 alignment check: 1234567890 ++++++++++ Legal Copyright: Tekken, Tekken 5, King, Armor King and all other related characters are registered trademarks and copyrighted (c) Namco. All rights reserved. This guide is copyrighted (c) Daniel Vega, 2005. All rights reserved. It's free for personal use, so don't rip it off, don't sell it for profit. I don't think I can take any legal action if you intend to break the law, but someone else might find that out... Current table of contents: -------------------------- * Version history * Intro to Tekken 5 King * Conventions * T5 King move list * T5 King's moves analysis * Top 10 moves * Tekken 5.0 -> 5.1 changes * King in a nutshell - Poking tools - CH catchers - Whiff punishers - High/mid block punishers - Low block punishers - Crushes - The guaranteed stuff * T5 King frame data * T5 King strategies - Command throw buffers & setups - Multithrows - The primary mixup - The CD mixup (secondary mixup) - FC mixup - b+1+2 followups - b+1+2,1+2 mixups - Low parry followups - Reversals - Okizeme - Tracking stuff * T5 King combos/juggles - Standard combos/juggles - Wall combos * Tech traps - Basic tech traps - 1+4 tech traps - Missed f+1+2 tech traps * Misc stuff * VS strats (still incomplete) * Credits +-----------------+ | Version History | +-----------------+ - 16/06/07: Version 4.1 - A few minor fixes here and there. Punishment Lists 99.99% complete now (cleared issue on Raven's b+1+2,2 and Devil Jin's f,f+3,1,3_4). - Added a few small juggles (nothing too fancy unfortunately) - 08/06/07: Version 4.0 - Wow, I've done such a huge mistake. The "Punishment Lists" should be all right now. OK, Devil Jin's f,f+3,1,4 move is not punishable on block at all, whereas f,f+3,1,3 IS. The 4 ender is safe, but the 3 (which is low) can be punished with a FC,df+2. I didn't notice it before because TZ had the data for f,f+3,1,3 in place of f,f+3,1,4, and viceversa, but should be fixed now. I know, I know I'm not perfect...I should have noticed it before, but I have my mind too busy at times. - Added "Multithrows", a fairly long section within T5 strategies. - 26/12/06: Version 3.5 - Better specified notations in Conventions section. It should help those utterly unfamiliarized with the game now, also makes it clear that the guide can be used for both PS2 and arcade versions of T5. - Added entry for Sidethrows on Moves analysis section, some more comments on d/b+4, redone comments for u/b+1 - Renamed "King in a nutshell" section, added Crushes in - Cleared comments on buffering Tombstone, added WS+4 and f+1,2 GS buffers - Corrected frame data for f,f+1+2 (source: inatekken web page) - Added "Ground damage decreased from 100% to 70%" in the "5.0 -> 5.1" changes section (I can't really believe I forgot to point that before) - 19/09/06: Version 3.3 - Redone analysis on 1,2>1 as an independent move - Fixed errors in movelist (FC+1 and FC+1,N+2 damage) - Added FC,d/f+2, ground throw combo (useful near walls) - 05/08/06: Version 3.2 - Added the URL of King's iSW thread in Tekken Zaibatsu forums. - Added Hop Rock Bottom buffer in the command throw buffers section - 14/07/06: Version 3.1 - Added u/f+4, f+1,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 juggle (beginner friendly, anyway) - Added u/f+4, 2,1, f+1+2, d+2+4 juggle (stylish, gives the option of ending into one of d+2+4 air multi's enders for more damage or end there and go straight into oki) - Added CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1,2, iSW juggle on Marduk (thanks Dangerous King) - Added CH d/b+3, FC,d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) ground throw (can be broken but it's still dangerous around walls, EVEN IF OPPONENT BREAKS) - Added u/f+4, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 (w!), SSR f,N,d~d/f+1+2 (from Tekken-five King's combo vid) - Added f+1,2, b+3 wall combo from u/f+4 and WS+1+2 wall splats - Changed layout for moves in move analysis - Added entries for air throws in move analysis - 18/06/06: Version 3.0 - Once again redone move analysis. All throws are in throws section, attacks under attacks' section. I also modified entries for several moves (WS+1+2, CD+1+2, f,f+2+3 and others) and added more info gathered from gameplay experience and other people's posts as well. - Added "Top 10 moves" section to make clear where's the good stuff and the "still-usable-but-not-as-good" moves. - Corrected frame data, and added data for JGS moves up to the 5th spin - Added 5.0 -> 5.1 changes section - Added Reversals within T5 King strats' section - Added CH BT 3, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, iSW juggle (thanks to combot-killer) - Added WS+1+2, f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (classic from T4) and a few other juggles as well, revamped juggle section a bit - 25/05/06: Version 2.06 - Added CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N,f+1,2, iSW 100 damage juggle on Marduk (thanks to Dangerous King from TZ) - Added b+1+2,1+2 mixups into Strategies section - 21/05/06: Version 2.05 - Added CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+1+2, f+3, d+3+4,2 and f+1+2, d+2+4 juggles - Added f+2,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 juggle (on Marduk only) from WS+1+2 and u/f,N+4 - Cleared some issues about 1,2/1,2>1 - Added "anti-Law" into VS Strat section - Fixed little error in movelist (names for certain moves) - Several comments on move analysis section redone, added u/f+1+2* entry - Slight additions/corrections in Okizeme section - 14/05/06: Version 2.04 - Added u/f+1+2, d/f+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 juggle on Marduk - 01/05/06: Version 2.03 - Fixed movelist a bit, properties of FC,d/f+2 on side and back hit - Added b,f+1+2 backthrow into move analysis section - Added f+3, 1,2, f+2+4 juggle for CH b+1, CH u/f+1+2 and FC,d/f+2 juggle starters (for you begginers anyway) - 17/01/06: Version 2.02 - Added more CH b+1 juggles - Corrected error in movelist regarding Running Ali Kick. You cannot do the Extended Ali Kicks from this version, just either the upper or two more kicks. - 29/10/05: Version 2.01 - Corrected some minor mistakes - Added FC,d/f+1~D/F, WS+1, 1,2, b+3 juggle - Added FC,d/f+1~D/F, WS+1, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 juggle - 26/10/05: Version 2.0 - Movelist re-done, from Drake the Demon's movelist. Added ending stances for several moves, modified it a bit for format spacing (78 characters per line no more), corrected mistakes from earlier movelist regarding ground throws and some damage levels as well. - Move analysis section re-done (Primary and secondary moves); eliminated totally useless moves - Added entries for u/b+1, u/f+2+4 and f,f+2+3 in move analysis section. Modified some entries for several moves as well - Added "Shining Wizard" within Command throws buffers & setups section - Added some setups for Rock Bottom - Removed b+1 setups. These are within "The primary mixup" now. - Added followups for b+1+2~2+4 and b+1+2~3+4 - Re-done Okizeme section. Added King's oki options for each case - Added CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1,2, GS juggle - New section: Tech traps, added 1+4 tech traps and missed f+1+2 techtraps from silencer017 - September '05: First version of this FAQ (unreleased) finished. +-------------------------------------------------+ | Intro to T5 King: "Not forced to throw anymore" | +-------------------------------------------------+ TTT/T4 King: Poker-grappler T5 King: Poker-grappler/CH hunter, random power striker In past Tekken games, King's juggles were weak, and his command throws were practically the only way to deal big damage with him. Thus, he had a hard time trying to win against top or higher tier characters. Although helped by his strong poking game, King's throws were still hard to setup and got horribly punished via WS launchers once an opponent ducked after guessing that the grab was coming. The fact that his u/f+4 juggles were weak turned him very throw reliant. King's poke game was always fast and safe, but still weak damage when compared to most characters' juggle starters. However, those days are gone. King has become more of a bi-dimensional char, able to survive even against the best top tiers. He has been given an actual interrupting ability, along with stronger combo damage, which make him pretty good at CH catching. While still retaining his trademark throw game, he's now able to deal about a halfbar combo damage on a potential ducker, and interrupt the opponent within setups with moves like his b+1. This gives him a double strategy: 1) interrupt the opponent for CH damage when opponent is aggressive and 2) play a mid-throw guessing game when opponent gets back into turtling. This is not to say his offense is perfect, though. King still has a major hole in his game: lack of mid-range launchers. He has poor offense at mid range as almost all of his mid-range moves are either slow, high or punishable. Namco also refused to give King users a Mishima-style type of wavedash to close the gaps while still keeping reasonable offense at hand. (The fact that backdash is toned down doesn't really help him at mid-range offense; just to return back to close range and attack from there with less risk of whiffing.) King still keeps his own wavedash in Tekken 5, but it's really hard to master and often players don't incorporate it into their games for this reason. Given that his offense is hampered at mid range (but not a lot of characters have such a great offense from mid range, either - plus you can overcome this weakness much easier than back in TTT days), he does better at close range offense AND TURTLING. This is true: King has good turtling ability, he can do decently at block-punishing, he gets a strong juggle after blocking lows with u/f,N+4, WS+1+2 and FC,d/f+2, he also gets juggle after a low parry in most cases, and has right punch and kick reversals, giving him an extra edge at defense. Where King fails at keeping them at bay, due to lack of mid range stuff - he will do better after sidestepping, due to more damaging hopkick juggles (SS, u/f+4 is now an actual way to go). King's strengths: - Good poking game - Good mid attacks. Strong mid/throw mixup especially at close range - Good throwing game - Good CH and interrupting game - GOOD juggles (finally!) - Decent SS game - Decent CD game - Unchickenable kick and right punch reversals. Good low parry followups King's weaknesses: - Lack of good lows (the ones he has are decent at best) - Lack of fast, damaging whiff punishers at mid range (unless opponent has back close to walls - b+3 if that's the case) and good mid/long range offense in general - The majority of King's most damaging combos are very hard to pull off. Specially the ones making use of iSW enders and ground throws by the wall +-------------+ | Conventions | +-------------+ This is the conventions' section (also known as the "you SHOULD know all this already" section). This is all common, standard Tekken notations used to make reference to specific character move. Basic commands: 1 = left punch 2 = right punch 3 = left kick 4 = right kick (In the PS2 console version, these are arranged by default on the PS2's controller pad as follows: Square: 1 (left punch) (L1, L2, R1 and R2 - no use) Triangle: 2 (right punch) X: 3 (left kick) Circle: 4 (right kick) However, you can reconfigure those buttons as well as the L1, L2, R1 and R2 wing buttons as you wish at the Options Menu - which is one of the reasons you won't see Tekken move notations involving the PS2 controller's buttons). f = forward u = up N = neutral (no joystick or pad tap) b = back d = down u/f = up/forward u/b = up/back d/f = down/forward d/b = down/back Capital letters in a command mean to hold down the joystick/pad in the required direction. HCB = half circle back = f,d/f,d,d/b,b HCF = half circle forward = b,d/b,d,d/f,f QCB = quarter circle back = d,d/b,b QCF = quarter circle forward = d,d/f,f CD = crouch dash motion = f,N,d,d/f + = Simultaneously (ex. f+4 means tap forward and press 4 at once) _ = Or (ex: 1+4_2+3 means either 1+4 or 2+3) * = Hold button(s) down. (ex: u/f+1+2* = tap up/forward while HOLDING 1+2) , = Followed by (ex. 1+2,2 means press 1+2, then press 2) ~ = INMEDIATELY followed by (ex. 4~3 press 4 and quickly press 3 afterwards) > = Next input is delayable (ex. 1>2 means either 1,2 or 1 *brief pause* 2) : = Just frame input; precise timing required (else the move won't execute) = = Possible next sequence after a prior command () = Group different possible commands (ex. (b_d/f)+1 means b+1 or d/f+1) [] = Group optional command(s) (ex. [d/f+1,]2,3 means 2,3 or d/f+1,2,3) {} = Missing hit(s) required (ex. 1,{2},3 means the 2 must miss the opponent) FC = In Full Crouch, duck/crouching state (after holding down, or after moves that put your character in crouch. Ex: FC+1 while crouching, press 1) WS = While Standing (rising from a crouch - achieve crouch state, then let the joystick/pad return to neutral. Ex: WS+2 means go into crouch, N+2 - let the stick or pad neutral while pressing 2) WR = While Running (after f,f,f or f,F if 3 steps or more away from opponent) BT = With your Back Turned to your opponent (e.g. BT 3 means with your back turned to the opp, press 3). SS = Side-Step either way (u~N into background or d~N into foreground) (Ex: SS+2 means while side-stepping, press 2; either u~N+2 or d~N+2). SSL = SS left (to your character's left side) SSR = SS right (to your character's right side) Hit levels: h = high (can be blocked standing, or ducked under; misses a crouching foe) m = mid (must be blocked standing; hits a crouching foe) sm = special mid (can be blocked either standing or crouching) l = low (must be blocked crouching; hits a standing foe) Capital letters (e.g. M, SM or L) mean the move also hits a grounded opponent. ! = unblockable = unblockable, but can be ducked (misses a crouching foe) [!] = unblockable which hits grounded opponents *!* = unblockable which hits big grounded opponents Throw types: Front = front throw (catches standing opponent, face towards King) Left = left side throw (catches standing opponent, left side towards King) Right = right side throw (catches standing opponent, right side towards King) Back = back throw (catches standing opponent, back towards King) Crouch = crouch throw (catches ducking opponent, face towards King) Air = air throw (catches opponent in mid-air, face up & feet towards King) Any = catches any position except airborne opponents Stances: RC = This move recovers in crouching position RCj = This move may recover in crouching BT = This move ends with back turned to opponent KND = This move recovers in the knockdown position (face up, feet towards) PLD = This move recovers in "play dead" position (face up, feet away) FCD = This move recovers in "face down" position (face down, feet towards) SLD = This move recovers in sliding position (face down, feet away) Moves' properties: CH = counter hit (hitting during your opponent's move execution) GB = move causes guard break (opponent recovers slower when blocked) BS = move causes block stun (to attacking character, when blocked) GC = guard crouch (opponent recovers in crouching position) OB = forces opponent's back to face your character OS = forces opponent's side to face your character KND = move puts opponent into knockdown position PLD = move puts opponent into "play dead" position FCD = move puts opponent into "face down" position SLD = move puts opponent into sliding position JG = juggles/launches into the air on hit BN = bounces on hit (opponent cannot techroll) SH = staggers on hit (opponent goes backwards and may fall to the ground) KS = kneeling stun (opponent will recover crouching on hit) MS = minor stun (usually no guaranteed followups) DS = double over stun (escaped with ~f - tap f quickly after being hit) FS = fall back stun (escaped with ~f) CS = crumple stun (not escapable) b = block modifier (ex. OSb: forces opponent's side to face you on block) c = counter hit modifier (ex. CSc: crumple stuns on CH; BNc: bounces on CH) co = crouch hit modifier (ex. KSco: knee stuns on crouching opponents) cl = clean hit modifier (ex. KNDcl: knocks down on clean hit) [#] = causes this property on # hit of a string (ex. OC[1]: first hit forces opponent to crouch; JG[2]: second hit will juggle) Crush types: TC = Technically Crouching during the move ("crushes" highs; this move can duck under the opponent's high moves for some, or all, of the animation's frames) TJ = Technically Jumping during the move ("crushes" lows, and some special mid moves, such as d+1; this move can jump over lows for some, or all, of the animation's frames) Notations related to Tekken 5 King only: JGS = Jaguar Step (on normal standing position, push and hold 3+4) iSW = Instant Shining Wizard (f~f,f+2+4 - convention used in combos) GS = Giant Swing (f,HCF+1 - convention used in combos) +-----------------------+ | T5.0 King's move list | +-----------------------+ Moves with name in capital letters are new in Tekken 5. Unlike Catlord's move list, I only capitalized the brand new T5 King moves and not the older ones whose command inputs have changed (e.g. King's u/f+3+4). SINGLE THROWS: Command Type Name (Stance) Damage Break Properties [f+]1+3 Front Winding Nut 35 1 [f+]2+4 Front Brainbuster Suplex 35 2 d/f+2+3 Front Coconut Crush 40 2 d/b+1+2 Front Figure Four Leg Lock 40 1+2 #1 f,HCF+1 Front Giant Swing 45,20 1 #2 d/b,f+2 Front Tombstone Pile Driver 58 2 QCB+1+2 Front Muscle Buster (BT) 50 1+2 (WR_f,f,f)+2+4 Front Shining Wizard 40 1+2 b+1+2 Front Irish Whip 0_5 1+2 OB #3 = ~1+3 = Turn Around Feint 0 1 = ~2+4 = Quick Slam 8 2 = 1+2 = Turn Around 0 1+2 OB = ~3+4 = Ground Smash 10 3+4 FC,d/b,d,d/b+1+2 Front Rock Bottom 45 1+2 (d_FC)+1+3 Crouch Jumping Powerbomb 45 1 (d_FC)+2+4 Crouch V DRIVER 45 2 Any Front throw Left Argentine Backbreaker 20,20 1 Any Front throw Right Knee Crusher 42 2 [f+]1+3 Back Half Boston Crab 60 None [f+]2+4 Back Cobra Twist 60 None b,f+1+2 Back Stretch Buster 75 None [f+]1+3 Air AERIAL LEG CROSS HOLD 15 None [f+]2+4 Air AERIAL LEG SCREW 15 None (f,HCF+1)_(f,f,f+2+4) Air RUNNING JAGUAR BOMB 22_30 None #4 #1 Right after King does damage, input :3+4 to reverse. Damage to King is 26. #2 Can be techrolled to reduce damage by 20. In Tekken 5.0, damage is 70 if opponent is thrown into a wall. #3 Must throw opponent into wall for damage (Tekken 5.0 only). Escape must be done just before the throw animation ends. #4 The f,f,f+2+4 version does 30 damage. MULTITHROWS: Command Type Name (Stance) Damage Break Props. QCF+1 Front Pile Driver 30 1 #1 = ~1+2 = Arm Lock Face Buster 35 2 #2 = 1+2,3,4,1+2 = Boston Crab 15 1+2 #2 f,N,d,d/f+1+4 Front Arm Breaker 20 1 = 1+2,1+2 = Triple Arm Breaker 12,18 1 = 1+2,4,2+4 = Head Jammer 20 2 = 4,3,4,3+4,1+2 = Arm Crucifixion 25 None = 2,1+2,1+2+3 = Chicken Wing Facelock 20 1+2 = 2,1,3,1+2+4,1+2+4 = Dragon Sleeper 30 1 = 1+3,3+4,2+4,1+2,1+2+3 = Rolling Death Cradle 70 2 f,N,d,d/f+2+3 Front Standing Heel Hold 25 2 #3 = 1,2,3,1+2 = Stepover Toehold Facelock 35 1 = 1+2,3,1,1+3 = Scorpion Death Lock 40 2 = 1+2,1,3,1+2 = Indian Death Lock 25 1+2 = 1,3,4,1+2,3+4 = King's Bridge 45 None d/f+1+2 Front Full Nelson Drop 25 1+2 SS+2+4[~B] Front Full Nelson Drop [Cancel RC] 25 1+2 #4 d/f,d/f+(1+3_2+4) Crouch Full Nelson Drop 25 1_2 #5 = 2,2,1+2 = Cannonball Buster 15 None = 1,2,3+4 = Powerbomb 22 1 = 2,1,3,4 = Giant Swing 25 1 = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 = Muscle Buster (BT) 30 2 = 3+4,1+2,1+2+4 = Manhattan Drop 15 2 = 1,2,3+4,1+2 = Victory Bomb 18 None = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 = Muscle Buster (BT) 30 1 = 2,1,3,4 = Giant Swing 25 2 f,d/f+(1+3_2+4) Front Reverse Arm Slam 22 1_2 #5 = 2,1,1+2 = Backdrop (PLD) 15 1_2 #5 = 3+4,1+2 = German Suplex 15 1 = 1,2,3+4 = Powerbomb 22 None = 2,1,3,4 = Giant Swing 25 1 = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 = Muscle Buster (BT) 30 2 = 2,2,1+2 = Cannonball Buster 15 2 = 1,2,3+4 = Powerbomb 22 1 = 2,1,3,4 = Giant Swing 25 1 = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 = Muscle Buster (BT) 30 2 = 3+4,1+2,1+2+4 = Manhattan Drop 15 2 = 1,2,3+4,1+2 = Victory Bomb 18 None = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 = Muscle Buster (BT) 30 1 = 2,1,3,4 = Giant Swing 25 2 JGS (1+4_2+3) Front COBRA CLUTCH 20 1_2 #6 = 2+4,1+2,1+2 = FUNERAL SUPLEX 25 1 = 3+4,3+4,1+2 = PICKPOCKET SLEEPER 15 2 = 1,1,1+2 = TRIPLE TROUBLE 4,4,12 1 = 3,4,1+2,3+4 = STRETCH MUFFLER 23 2 = 1,4,2,3 = COBRA TWIST 12 None = 2,1,(1+3_2+4) = REVERSE DDT 13 1_2 #5 = 2,3,1,1+2 = SAMURAI LOCK 24 1+2 = 1+2,1,2,1+2+(3_4) = FULL NELSON DROP 16 1_2 #5 = 2,2,1+2 = CANNONBALL BUSTER 13 2 #7 = 3+4,1+2 = BACKDROP (PLD) 15 None = 1+2,4,1+2,1+2+3 = RISING SUN 12,15 1+2 = 1+2,3,4,(1+3_2+4) = BURNING HAMMER 18 1_2 #5 = 2+4,3+4,1+3,1+2+(3_4) = SPINNING SCREWDRIVER 32 1_2 #5 d+(1+3_2+4) Air DOUBLE HEEL HOLD 12 None = 1+2,1+2 = FLAP JACK 18 1 = 2,1,3,4 = MINI SWING 20,10 2 #8 FC+1+2 Any Ultimate Tackle 5 System #9 = 1+2 = Cross Arm Lock 25 System = 1+2 = Arm Twist 10 None = 3+4 = Cross Leg Lock 20 System = :1+2 = Ultimate S.T.F. 15,15 None = (1,2,1)_(2,1,2) = Mounted Punches 5,5,5 System = (1,2)_(2,1) = Mounted Punches 5,5 System = 1+2 = Cross Arm Lock 25 System = 1+2 = Arm Twist 10 None = 3+4 = Cross Leg Lock 20 System = :1+2 = Ultimate S.T.F. 15,15 None #1 Also press 1 during the throw animation to break. The Arm Lock Face Buster cancels the Pile Driver, therefore its damage doesn't add to Pile Driver. #2 Input the proper break during the Pile Driver animation. #3 If the opponent escapes any of the following links, King suffers 10 damage. #4 If King grabs the opponent's side or back, Cannonball Buster will be the first part of the multithrow. If King grabs the opponent's back, then the Cannonball Buster cannot be escaped. #5 Break is 1 if throw input was done with 1+3 and 2 if it was done with 2+4. #6 Break is 1 if throw input was done with 1+4 and 2 if it was done with 2+3. #7 Chains into Cannonball Buster links (from Full Nelson Drop series). #8 Can be techrolled to reduce damage by 10. In Tekken 5.0, damage is 35 on wall hit. #9 King can't do the Cross Arm Lock or Cross Leg Lock when tackling the back. Ultimate Tackle escapes: - Input 2 while being tackled to dodge the tackle. - Input 1+2 right when your back hits the floor to reverse the tackle; you can continue with your own tackle options afterwards - Input 1+2,2,2,2,2 after being tackled to escape Cross Arm Lock (King, Paul, Jin, Devil Jin, Nina & Marduk can reverse by tapping 2 once more) - Input 1+2,1,1,1,1 after being tackled to escape Cross Leg Lock (King, Nina & Marduk can reverse by tapping 1 once more) - Input 2 to block the first 1 (left Mounted Punch) or 1 to block the first 2 (right Mounted Punch). Paul can reverse the first Punch with 1,1,2. GROUND THROWS: Command Place Name Damage Break Notes (N_FC),D/B+1+3 KND Head Bomber 33 1 (N_FC),D/B+2+4 KND Figure Four Leg Lock 33 2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) KND Mini Swing 20,10 1_2 #1 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) KND left Turn Over 0 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) KND right Turn Over 0 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) PLD Shoulder Cracker 28 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) SLD Wing Tearer 32 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) FCD feet Half Boston Crab 30 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) FCD left Camel Clutch 35 1_2 #2 (N_FC),d/b+(1+3_2+4) FCD right Bow Break 37 1_2 #2 #1 Can be techrolled to reduce damage by 10. In Tekken 5.0, damage is 35 on wall hit. #2 Break is 1 if throw input was done with 1+3 and 2 if it was done with 2+4. THROW SHIFTS: Hit Level/ Break/ Command Name Damage Throw Type Properties CH f,f,N+2 Counter Hit Stomach Smash 6 L DS #1 = 1+2 = Hi-Jack Back Breaker 30 Front_Crouch Break 1+2 = 1+2,u,d,N+3+4 = Jaguar Driver 50 Front_Crouch Break 3+4 (WR_f)+3 FRONT KICK 18 m MSc = :1+2 = DDT 20 Front_Crouch #2 BT 3 Blind Kick 15 M MS CSc = :1+2 = Stunner 20 Front_Crouch #2 CH f,f+4 Konvict Kick DDT 28,20 m,Front CH #1 d/f+3+4 Frankensteiner 15,30 SM,Front #3 #1 This move must connect as a front CH for the throw(s) to happen. Stomach Smash causes Double Over Stun on CH; the stun can be escaped, but doing this will not prevent the throws from happening. #2 Throw comes out only if the previous kick is a front hit. #3 Throw part comes out on a standing opponent in close range from the front. BASIC ATTACKS: Command Name (Stance) Damage Level Properties 1 Jab 6 h f+1 Forward Jab 8 h (d_d/b)+1 Low Jab (RC) 5 sm FC+1 Crouch Jab (RC) 3 sm (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+1 Quick Upper 12 m 2 Straight 10 h (d_d/b)+2 Low Straight (RC) 8 sm FC+2 Crouch Straight (RC) 8 sm 3 Hook Kick 25 h KND d+3 Low Spin Kick (RC) 12 l FC+3 Crouch Spin Kick (RC) 12 l (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+3 Rising Spin Kick 28 h KND 4 Right Kick 20 h JGc d+4 Shin Kick (RC) 7 l FC+4 Crouch Shin Kick (RC) 10 l (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+4 Rising Mid Kick 20 m SPECIAL ATTACKS: Command Name (Stance) Damage Level Properties (N_f)+1,2 Palm Attack 6_8,15 hh = 2+4 = Head Jammer 30 F Break 2 = 2+4 = Argentine Backbreaker 20,20 L Break 1 = 2+4 = Knee Crusher 42 R Break 2 = 2+4 = Cobra Twist 60 B = d+2+4 = V DRIVER 45 C Break 2 (N_f)+1,2>1 Palm Attack, Palm Upper 6_8,15,10 hhm = 2+4 = Stall Suplex 40 F Break 2 = 2+4 = Argentine Backbreaker 20,20 L Break 1 = 2+4 = Knee Crusher 42 R Break 2 = 2+4 = Cobra Twist 60 B = d+2+4 = V DRIVER 45 C Break 2 (d_FC)+1,N+2 Low Jab, Upper 5_3,13 smm d/f+1>2 Elbow Sting, Side Swipe 15,12 mm OCb[1] OC[1] b+1 SPRINT HOOK 13 h CSc u/b+1 Water Parting Chop 30 h SH f,f+1 Jaguar Straight 23 h OSb KND FC,d/f+1 Leg Breaker (RC) 21 L JG 2,1 Straight, Palm Upper 10,12 hm f+2>2 ROARING ELBOW RUSH 14,16 hh = >2[~B] = ROLLING ELBOW [CANCEL] 21 m OCb KS SLDc d/f+2 Side Swipe 12 m b+2 Arrow Elbow 16 h OSb OC b+2* Arrow Straight 30 h MS KNDc = d+2+4 = V DRIVER 45 C Break 2 f,f+2 ROLLING ELBOW 20 m OCb OC = >1 = SHADOW LARIAT 25 h GB PLD f,f,N+2 Stomach Smash 6 L DSc FC,d/f+2 BODY BLOW 23 m CS JG #1 (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+2 Dynamite Upper 20 m KND SS+2 Side Uppercut 22 m SH 1+2 Head Spinner (BT) 18 m = 1 = Brutal Cyclone 21 m KND u/f+1+2 Capital Punishment 35 m OCb JG f+1+2 Shadow Lariat 25 h GB PLD d+1+2 People's Elbow 21 M GB KS (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+1+2 European Uppercut 18 m JG f,N,d,d/f+1+2 Black Bomb 28 m KND BNc f,f,N+1+2 Guard Breaker 0 m GB MSc f,f+1+2 Flying Cross Chop 15 h_L GB #2 f+1+4 BODY CHECK 21 m GB MS f+2+3 Shoulder Tackle 40 m OCb KND f,f+2+3 Flying Body Press (SLD) 30 M MSco PLDc #3 (u/b_u_u/f)+2+4 Atomic Elbow Drop (PLD) 35 M OCb KS SLDc u/f+3 FALLING HEEL KICK (KND) 25_18 M GB KND #4 (WR_f)+3 FRONT KICK 18 m MSc d/f+3 Rib Buster 17 m = 4 = Neck Cutter (FCD) 15 h KND #5 b+3 Toll Kick 23 h KND d/b+3 CROUCHING LOW (RC) 17 L KS JGc BT 3 Blind Kick 15 M MS CSc u/f+4 Hopkick 13 m JG u/f,N+4 Delayed Hopkick 25 m JG f+4 Rolling Sobat 23 m GB SH d/f+4 Knee Buster 15 l f,N,d,d/f+4 Jumping Dark Knee 25_37 m GB SH KNDcl f,f+4 Konvict Kick 24 m KND b+4 Disgraceful Kick (BT) 20_30 h GB KND d/b+4 Low Dropkick (RC) 16 L SLD #6 WR+4 Running Ali Kick (RC) 22 L = 2 = Spin Upper 10 m KND = 4,4 = Ali Kicks (RC) 7,7 LL MS 3+4 JAGUAR STEP -- - u/f+3+4 Neck Cutter Kick (FCD) 28 h GB KND f,f+3+4 Exploder 25 h GB KND #7 (d_FC)+3+4 Ali Kick (RC) 10_14 L #8 = 2 = Spin Upper 10 m KND = 4,2 = Ali Kick, Spin Upper 7,10 Lm KND = 4,4 = Ali Kicks (RC) 7,(7_5) LL MS = 2 = Spin Upper 10 m KND = 4 = Extended Ali Kicks (RC) 4,3 LL MS d/f+3+4 Frankensteiner (KND) 15 SM (WR_f,f,f)+3+4 Satellite Exploder (KND) 40 h_m GB KND #9 SS+3+4 Deadly Boomerang (SLD) 54 h GB KND b+1+3 ARM WHIP 12,18 - #10 b+2+4 Double Heel Hold varies - #11 b+2+4 Leg Screw varies - #12 = :3+4 = Figure 4 Leg Lock 33 - Break 1+2 1+2+3+4 TAUNTING DANCE -- - = ~1+2+3+4 = CHARGING DANCE -- - #13 #1 This move causes CS on a front hit or JG if it hits from the side or back. #2 Hits high at the start of the move OR low at the end. GB if blocked high. #3 King recovers FCD if the move whiffs or is blocked or hits a grounded opponent. Causes MS if hits from side or back or on a crouching opponent. #4 Does 25 damage on a close hit or 18 damage on far or ground hit. #5 Rib Buster must make contact (hit or block) for this move to come out. #6 King will recover in FCD if the move is blocked or whiffs. #7 King will recover in KND if the move whiffs. #8 Ali Kick properties: - First Ali Kick can also be done as FC,d/f+4; damage is 10 when no second kick is buffered; the third Ali Kick will cause knockdown if it hits the opponent's back. - If the first Ali Kick is a CH, the third kick does 5 damage pts instead of 7 (irregardless of whether you choose to do Spin Upper, Extended Ali Kicks, or nothing); also in this case, the third kick causes a longer minor stun if hits (enough for King to get free FC/WS moves). - Spin Upper (after 2 or 3 Ali Kicks) and Extended Ali Kicks are possible only if the first Ali Kick was a CH. The last hit of the Extended Ali Kicks causes minor stun (long enough for King to get free FC/WS moves). #9 Hits high at the start or mid at the end. #10 Right punch reversal. Damage in Tekken 5.1 is standard reversal damage (damage of reversed move plus 25 points). #11 Left kick reversal, does standard reversal damage #12 Right kick reversal, does standard reversal damage #13 Dancing animation can't be cancelled, but King remains charged after the dance is over. JAGUAR STEP MOVES (Only done from Jaguar Step - when standing, 3+4) Command Name Damage Level Properties 3+4 JAGUAR STEP -- - = 3+4* = ADDITIONAL SPINS -- - #1 = (1+4_2+3) = COBRA CLUTCH 20 Front #2 = 2 = JAGUAR ELBOW 15_18_22 m OCb OC SLDc #3 = 4 = JAGUAR HIGH 35_42_52 h GB KND #3 = d/f+4 = JAGUAR MID 23_27_34 m OCb GB KND #3 #1 King will get dizzy and fall after 6 spins. #2 Chains into Cobra Clutch links, see Multithrows above. #3 Damage increases with each spin. JGS 4 is unblockable after 3 spins, JGS d/f+4 causes GB after 3 spins. UNBLOCKABLE ATTACKS: Command Name (Stance) Damage Level Properties f+1+2* Jaguar Impact 50 KND BT 1+2 Atomic Blaster 50 KND u/f+1+2* Burning Knuckle 45 [!] KND u/b~u~u/f+1+2 QUICK BURNING KNUCKLE 45 [!] KND 1+4 Twist Moonsault Body Press (FCD) 25 [!] PLD BT 1+4 Quick Moonsault Body Press (FCD) 30 [!] PLD JGS(3-5 spins) 4 JAGUAR HIGH 52 KND +---------------+ | Move analysis | +---------------+ If a move is not covered below, it means that move is useless and there are better moves to use, so you know what to assume about f,f,N+2, QCF+1 etc. This way, I'll save some file size... Throws & Multithrows -------------------- Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Winding Nut [f+]1+3 front throw 1 Brainbuster Suplex [f+]2+4 front throw 2 The basic throws, which are OK for a simple mixup. Both of them will leave the opponent in the PLD position (face up and feet towards), nothing is guaranteed but you have a good wakeup game. Sometimes 1+3 leaves King in BT if done near the wall (the exact circumstance for this to happen evades me at this moment), and 2+4 switches sides with your opponent. They are also the basic airthrows; this kills the old tactic of doing jumping moves to avoid being thrown. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Giant Swing f,HCF+1 front throw 1 10 frames, long range and good damage (mad damage if King throws them into a wall) make this one the most dreaded of King's throws. A wall hit also leads to extra guaranteed followups if in range. Hands down, the best throw in the game, much to the displeasure of Julia's Mad Axes fans ;) Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Tombstone Pile Driver d/b,f+2 front throw 2 Does huge damage, but the range is kind of short. Still a good throw because it can be buffered much like the GS. It leaves them in PLD position at close distance, so good wakeup games afterwards. A d+4 is guaranteed on Jack-5 and Kuma/Panda (you can also try d+3). If you're quick, a d+3+4 might catch them just before they get up. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Muscle Buster QCB+1+2 front throw 1+2 King's best 1+2-break throw, if you can get it. Looks cool, and you get some good oki after it, a free BT 3 on most characters (on male characters, wait a split second before hitting BT 3; the kick won't hit females, Roger or Wang). You can also get BT d+4, FC+3+4,2 for a mini-juggle if they try to move, or go for BT 1+4 if they stay there. This throw also tracks slightly both directions and switches sides with the enemy, being useful near walls. Its range is that of a basic throw. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Shining Wizard (WR_f,f,f)+2+4 front throw 1+2 Another good throw to mix up with GS, great priority, 1+2-break and its range make it very good. Learn to use the iSW (instant Shining Wizard) to grab them often. WR+2+4 is very obvious so mix that up with WR+1+3/GS from time to time. It leaves them face up, side towards King, an f+3 is very likely to hit moving opponents (it seems to hit Kuma...even if he doesn't move?) Free df+4 on bigs. This throw also switches sides if the opponent breaks it. The command is hard to pull out, f,f,f+2+4 is not easy to execute when King is only a dash away from his opponent, so you may have to spend a lot of time practicing the iSW motion, but it's worth every bit of it. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Irish Whip b+1+2 front throw 1+2 = Turn Around Feint = ~1+3 link 1 = Quick Slam = ~2+4 link 2 = Turn Around = 1+2 link 1+2 = Ground Smash = ~3+4 link 3+4 Not very damaging, but the best throw in terms of tracking. However, it does have slightly shorter range than basic throws, and comes out 1 frame slower as well. All options afterwards (including N, or b+1+2 by itself) have some guaranteed followups. A great throw against the wall, since it leads to wall splat. Note that b+1+2~3+4 leaves you BT'ed for a free shot on your back if escaped, so beware of abusing it. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Figure Four Leg Lock d/b+1+2 front throw 1+2 Quick 1+2-break throw, 40 damage. Free d+4 on bigs. The JF "reversal" is still present, but it's an actual justframe, it takes mad timing to pull it out. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Coconut Crush d/f+2+3 front throw 2 Quick but average 2-break throw, 40 damage. No guaranteed followups. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Jumping Powerbomb d+1+3 crouch throw 1 V Driver d+2+4 crouch throw 2 These crouch throws can be used after low parry, if the hopkick doesn't reach. But aside from that, both of them are useless for the most part, as they will miss if the opponent does any move (unless it's a TC move, which can be crouch thrown out of if you have enough time, or a TJ move, because they will become the air multithrow starter). Overall, any solid mid attack like d/f+1>2 is way better than crouch throws, because not only it does hit any ducking opponent, but it also hits them out of FC and WS moves, and it still hits them when they are ducking while side or back turned; both things that the crouch throws just can't do. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Argentine Backbreaker any throw (at opp's left) side throw 1 Knee Crusher any throw (at opp's right) side throw 2 I just mention these because they do decent damage and give really great oki. After the left sidethrow, King has a guaranteed u/f+2+4, and after the right one, there is a free ground throw mixup or d/b+3 or d/b+4 or u/f+3. But don't expect to nail many of these - sidethrows are probably the most broken throws in Tekken. They always have the same escape, depending on the side which is thrown, no matter what throw you used. If you find yourself at your opponent's side, it's better to hit u/f+4 and start a sidejuggle. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Stretch Buster (behind opponent) b,f+1+2 back throw none Major props if you can get this one against a skilled opponent. There are some setups for this move, such as the b+1+2,1+2 Irish Whip (which will turn their back while keeping them close to you), but it's far from guaranteed as long as your enemy can duck before it comes out. However, it does come to my attention that when doing the b,f+1+2 on the backturned opponent, if he/she turns around before being thrown, the grab will become the Muscle Buster! This is very good indeed, since King still does great damage, if the opponent doesn't escape (I don't know if it's escapable under this circumstance, I guess it probably is, but I never had it broken in the few, rare ocassion I landed it) and means the throw was positively improved from earlier games (because if you attempt this same thing in Tekken 3, Tag or 4, King's hands would go through the opponent, leaving him completely open to an enemy blow). Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Aerial Leg Screw (opponent airborne) [f+]2+4 air throw none Out of the basic airthrows, this is the one you will land the most, since it's easier for King's right hand to make contact with the opponent's left foot. He basically does the same animation of his right kick reversal, switching sides with the opponent and leaving him/her in standard knockdown position. However, there's nothing for free afterwards, although you're able to catch a back roll with u/f+1+2 or try f,f+2+3 if they lay there, or attempt a CD or maybe a JGS mixup if they quickrise. It's not really a bad airthrow, but given enough time and practice, you can always replace this with air f,HCF+1 or f,f,f+2+4. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Running Jaguar Bomb (opponent airborne) f,HCF+1 air throw none Running Jaguar Bomb (opponent airborne) f,f,f+2+4 air throw none This move is responsible for King's new great damage juggles. Not only it does huge damage for a juggle ender - it will also make King run forwards quite a distance (carrying them towards walls nicely) and leaving them at your mercy in standard KND position right at your feet, once again nothing is guaranteed, but you can go into your average wakeup games from there (d/f+1,2 or even f+3 pickup if they quickrise, or ground throw if they stay on ground). The air GS version is much easier to land, it does a bit less damage, but allows for the same wakeup games. Furthermore, in some juggles such as u/f+4, f+1+2, f+3, GS, it's the only option for an airthrow at this point, since an iSW requires more time and room to execute and hence it's less practical. The iSW airthrow is one of those advanced tools able to turn the match's tide in your favor whenever you land it, so be prepared to sit down and spend a few weeks (or months) in Practice Mode in order to make your King truly dreaded! Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Double Heel Hold (opponent airborne) d+(1+3_2+4) air throw none = Flap Jack = 1+2,1+2 link 1 = Mini Swing = 2,1,3,4 link 2 King's air multi can be used to finish some juggles, and as an air hit it can connect pretty low to the ground, provided that they're close enough. It also hits on a grounded character rolling forwards or backwards (easier to land if they're rolling forwards, as the range on d+2+4 is very short). Basically, it is an airthrow which hits lower than regular airthrows, and leaves you with the option of ending there for decent wakeups, or choose one of the two links available afterwards for extra damage. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Arm Breaker f,N,d,d/f+1+4 front throw 1 = Triple Arm Breaker = 1+2,1+2 link 1 = Head Jammer = 1+2,4,2+4 link 2 = Arm Crucifixion = 4,3,4,3+4,1+2 link none = Chicken Wing Facelock = 2,1+2,1+2+3 link 1+2 = Dragon Sleeper = 2,1,3,1+2+4,1+2+4 link 1 = Rolling Death Cradle = 1+3,3+4,2+4,1+2,1+2+3 link 2 Standing Heel Hold f,N,d,d/f+2+3 front throw 2 = S.T.F = 1,2,3,1+2 link 1 = Scorpion Death Lock = 1+2,3,1,1+3 link 2 = Indian Death Lock = 1+2,1,3,1+2 link 1+2 = King's Bridge = 1,3,4,1+2,3+4 link none Use these as part of King's CD game: mix both CD+1+4 and CD+2+3 with CD to mid hits like CD~WS+1+2, CD,u/f+4, etc. The CD multithrows are much faster now, so they're more likely to throw them. Also, unlike other throws, both CD+1+4 and CD+2+3 share the same grab animation (i.e. there's no visual difference before King makes contact; in both grabs, King's hands are extending equally far). Be warned that a CD doesn't cover that much ground and is mostly used to go under the opponent's high attacks. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- SS Full Nelson Drop [cancel] SS+2+4[~B] front throw 1+2 The SS+2+4~B can be used as emergency maneuver to evade most things in a hurry (Obviously, King's big sliding SS will be nullified if there was a wall at the side you were sidestepping to, so keep that in mind). The cancel recovers too slow to go for a FC or WS move before they attack, and the actual multithrow gets escaped (if not ducked) often, so it's wise to just keep it short. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Cobra Clutch JGS 1+4 front throw 1 Cobra Clutch JGS 2+3 front throw 2 Not as useful as the CD multithrow starters. It's much harder to setup and get it to land because you can't cancel the JGS inmediately into a standing guard, and the fact that a random jab can juggle you doesn't help either. In the rare event of landing the JGS multi starter, 1,4,2,3 is the obvious choice, then it gets easy, VERY EASY to break. Although you may be able to kill your opponent by taking the longest path, most of the links will do little damage, and more links mean more break points, so this doesn't have an extremely good payoff. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Full Nelson Drop d/f,d/f+1+3 crouch throw 1 Full Nelson Drop d/f,d/f+2+4 crouch throw 2 New to T5 King, d/f,d/f+1+3 is the same as d/f,d/f+2+4 but with 1 as break, so you can now mix these two up to prevent escapes. As with the standard crouch throws, they can be used after low parry (the low parry will act as the first d/f in the input sequence). Besides that, they have the same flaws of regular crouch throws which I already explained in depth before. Name Command Hit level Break ---- ------- --------- ----- Head Bomber (opp KND) (N_FC),D/B+1+3 ground throw 1 Figure Four Leg Lock (opp KND) (N_FC),D/B+2+4 ground throw 2 Use these for the ground throw mixup; d/b+(1+3_2+4) is sort of weak, as they can tech afterwards (unless you toss them into a wall). Also, notice that they can be done out of FC in T5, plus you can also mix them up to make them harder to escape, no matter what their grounded position is (other grounded positions will give you different ground throws, but they're a mixup and there's not an unique break depending on the position anymore). Oh, and definitely use these after wall combos; if they break them, you get a free b+3 for more wall combos or a well timed f,f,f+2+4 (iSW) for a backthrow. The ground throw attempt is hard to get at this point, but it's guaranteed as long as you do it right. More on this further in the combo/juggle section. Attacks ------- Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Left Jab [f+]1 h 1 is 9 frames, +2 on block, which makes 1 (blocked), 1,2 uninterruptable. The f+1 is 10 frames but does more damage, and gives the same advantage on block. 1 alone is of King's best pressuring tools, specially when it comes to beat 8 framers. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Palm Attack [f+]1,2 h,h = Head Jammer = 2+4 front throw Break 2 = V Driver = d+2+4 crouch throw Break 2 1,2 is 9 frames, -1 on block. It's a good jail string combo, but has a bit of disadvantage on guard, meaning you can't keep the pressure well with the 1,2 alone. However, this is the start of the 1,2>1 strings. Those throws aren't really worth the effort (even though you can consider using 1,2,2+4 once in a while, assuming you have mixed with 1,2, GS and 1,2 into mids properly) Furthermore, if the 1,2 is blocked and you are sure they will beat you with their move, you can also backdash, do a reversal, SS, etc. You don't have to play offense all the time. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Palm Attack, Upper [f+]1,2>1 h,h,m = Stall Suplex = 2+4 front throw Break 2 = V Driver = d+2+4 crouch throw Break 2 Here is where things become interesting. As the command implies, the last hit of 1,2>1 can be delayed. This can be tempting, because if the last 1 is a CH, you have a guaranteed 2,1 (unless the opponent was way too far, or if they eat the 1,2 before the last 1 hit; if that's the case, they often get pushed back) If the last 1 is blocked, you remain completely safe; no move can punish you. If you fear the range problem, you can go for the 4th and 5th hits of his ten hit string (1,2>1,1,2); as in the above case, if the 3rd hit is a CH, then the rest is guaranteed, however this comes at the sacrifice of safety - you can be punished after the 5th hit on block by 10 frame moves. Furthermore, if you are greedy, you can replace those 4th and 5th hits with the canned 2+4 (since they cannot duck in this case, just break it) or a very fast GS (very hard to do it fast before they can duck, but possible) for a good 50/50 guessing game where you're rewarded with 40+ damage if they guess wrong. 1,2>1 can be used for pressure, since if they try to attack after the 2, the last 1 will CH them, so you can hit 2,1 for free. Consider 1,2>1 an equivalent of Nina's 1,2>3 or Bryan's 1,2>1 (although has arguably a much weaker payoff), and mix it up with other options after 1,2. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Elbow Sting, Side Swipe d/f+1>2 m,m OCb[1] OC[1] Two mid-hit combo. This is what you mixup your throws with. Learn to always delay SLIGHTLY the 2 for better frames (i.e. advantage) on hit and block. It is good for punishing certain moves on block (Julia's 1~1,1 etc.) and duckers in general. It becomes unsafe if not delayed and blocked by the wall. Still, this is King's best mid move because of its good speed, decent range, damage and safety. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Low Jab, Upper (d_FC)+1,N+2 sm,m Very short range high crusher. Fast, kills jabs and high stuff up close, but barely safe on block. It whiffs often, if you're not careful about the range. Don't be surprised if you see d+1 interrupting a TC move and the N+2 missing completely. Also, watch out if the d+1 whiffs, because the weak push-back on the N+2 will vanish completely, which means you'll eat jabs on block. Be very careful when using this move, or better yet - don't use it at all. I advice to use d+2 instead of d+1,N+2 (despite being 1 frame slower) because it does more damage (than a d+1 alone I mean), it has better frames on block and hit, it has longer reach (also slightly longer than standing jabs, surprisingly) while still keeping the TC properties of d+1. You may disagree with this, but it's far better to sacrifice those 8-10 extra points of damage if that means decreasing the probabilities of whiffing your move to an acceptably low level. This move was once a great lifesaver for King in earlier Tekkens, but in its current form, it has been weakened so much that it's near to useless. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Sprint Hook b+1 h CSc Arguably King's best new move. It has sheer speed, good reach and stuns on CH. A normal hit gives you good frame advantage, thus you can also buffer throws from here. Safe on block - overall it works much like a mid range magic 4. It also has a secondary role of punishing your opponent's moves when you're too far for jab strings to reach. It's one of his best moves, just don't abuse it, or they will start ducking. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Water Parting Chop u/b+1 h SH It's a wrestling slap, fairly strong on hit but slow, easily ducked and also jab punishable if blocked at close range, but it's actually VERY HANDY against certain characters. It's the best cure against Baek's triple SSL; it covers a pretty wide area from King's front to his left side, thus it's useful for the purpose of tracking. If that's not good enough, King also does a small SSL as he does the move, you can perform it during a SSL for increased evasion effect and even better tracking to your left side. On hit, it deals a good chunk of damage and causes a brief stagger giving King the initiative. Aside from that, there's little reason to attempt this move, as it comes out slowly and leaves you vulnerable if blocked, despite the fact that most of the time King seems to end a bit off-axis on block and therefore he might not eat some jab strings in it's totality (f+1,2 for most characters still should work). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jaguar Straight f,f+1 h OSb KND High strike, slow but safe on block. On hit gives free oki - d+3+4 or FC,df+3. The positioning after it hits is really sweet, you can also pickup with f,f+3. If blocked, it turns their right side towards King, and you can evade ANY move the opponent tries with a simple SSL. This can be used sometimes as a punisher for whiffs, but f+1+2 is still better, basically due to longer range, slightly more damage and gives better oki on a far hit. The only real advantages that f,f+1 has over f+1+2 is that it can be done out of CD, and is a bit better on block, however those plusses don't quite make up for all the other advantages that f+1+2 has. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Leg Breaker FC,d/f+1 L JG Very slow and lowparriable on reaction. On the good side, it does crush highs consistently and juggles on hit. That being said, it's better to save this for oki or post low block stun. It's good to learn those f,f+3 juggles, as this is one of the few launchers that can ALWAYS hit after blocking Roger Jr's SS+4, Law's d/b+4, etc. On block, this move is good bait for King's reversals...but that's if they block it. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Straight, Upper 2,1 h,m 10-frame jab combo, 0 on block. Good to poke, annoy and set up throws. However it's not a jail string, meaning they might reverse or punch parry the 1 after blocking the 2, but this happens very sparingly, if it does (it's very hard to do, but it's possible). Good advantage on hit, plus it doesn't push them away on hit as much as other moves, which is why you see King players buffering throws a lot from 2,1 since day. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Roaring Elbow Rush f+2>2 h,h = Rolling Elbow [Cancel] = >2 [B] m OCb KS SLDc f+2 has decent reach, hits high but it's safe, hence is an OK poke sometimes. f+2,2 (no delay between hits) is a natural combo, but cannot be used to poke that often because they can block the first hit and duck the second. It's more useful for punishing some moves that push away on block (like Mishimas' WS+4,4 tsunami kicks) or juggle filler. If for some act of God you get the third hit on CH, the d+3+4 is free. The full string can be used an as easy juggle ender, but it's better to stick with iSW airthrow for that purpose. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Side Swipe d/f+2 m King's fastest mid. It lost range from previous games, though. It tracks well, so use it mainly to hit sidesteppers up close. Can be used to set up a throw. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Rolling Elbow f,f+2 m OCb OC = Shadow Lariat = >1 h GB PLD f,f+2~1 is pretty good to punish backrollers up close, as f,f+2 picks them off ground and the 1 lands in mid air, and then you can continue juggling (a bonus is that you're safe from wakeup kicks if you whiff the whole thing). It's also used in wall combos, right after wall stun, but usually unreliable and/or hard to land. A f,f+2 alone is better to force mixups on a techroller. This string combos on CH, even if the 1 is delayed a lot, but due to the slow speed on the first hit, the CH will never happen. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Body Blow FC,d/f+2 m CS JG This looks different compared to his old FC,d/f+2 launcher, but it's the same move in the end. Strictly used to punish blocked sweeps (post low block stun), since it recovers horribly on block. f+3 hits afterwards for some nasty juggle damage. Side note, if you do the move after blocking a sweep from max range, it hits but then you're out of range to juggle. In these cases, the FC,d/f+1 gives you much better positioning. FC,d/f+2 does slightly less damage (21 pts to be exact) in the 5.1 version of the game. On a side or back hit, this move will launch instead of causing the usual crumple stun on a front hit, after a back hit if you're not too far you can still juggle with f+1, f+2,2,2. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Side Uppercut SS+2 m SH Decent SS poke, fast enough to punish after SS'ing an enemy attack. If you do the sidestep to their weakest side (which you should be always doing), you'll have even more chances to hit them. This is safe on block for the most part if spaced out right (few characters can really punish on block), unless of course it was blocked near walls, and even then only jabs or fast 4s can punish. On a hit, SS+2 makes them stagger for a few frames, which is usually good for iSW setup or maybe CD mixups. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Head Spinner, Brutal Cyclone 1+2,1 m,m KND A slow two mid-hit combo. It does solid damage by itself, and knocks down for momentum or wall splat, allows for decent wall combos. It's barely unsafe on block, a few characters in the game can launch King after blocking this (Bryan being one of them), the rest of the cast gets maybe some fast long poke. This does work better from a SS since it's slow and linear, hence they might easily interrupt it with just about anything. It's also useful after parrying a low kick (if their back is to the wall or if the hopkick doesn't reach them) or as punisher after some moves on block (again, if u/f+4 doesn't reach). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Shadow Lariat f+1+2 h GB PLD One of King's weak whiff punishers. It's not as fast as it looks, but it does have a lot of range. You can use this to punish some moves that have good push back on block, like Baek's CD+3 or Julia's SS+3+4. On hit, it gives free BT 3 (must delay it a little to get it guaranteed), or d/b+3_d/b+4_u/f+3 or even a ground throw attempt, depending of your positioning afterwards (if you did it from far range, or after a push back move, the opponent usually falls right in front of King). It can also be used to close mid gaps, and tracks slightly an opponent's SSR. Very safe move, unless it gets ducked. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- People's Elbow d+1+2 M GB KS Slow oki move, more for show-off if anything IMHO. Guaranteed after both kick reversals, the b+1+2~3+4 and the b,f+1+2 backthrow I think, but not that much besides a followup for those grabs. It's usually overshadowed by u/f+3 (which does a bit less damage, but comes out much faster) in most situations. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Capital Punishment u/f+1+2 m OCb JG Same move from T4/TTT. Pretty slow windup, extremely SSable, and random jabs will float King out of it. However, it gives King advantage on block, juggles on any hit (a CH means better juggles though) and has good range. Very useful on backrollers and for crushing lows, specially wakeup sweeps from a grounded position (does much better than u/f+4 at that). u/f+1+2 is also the only King move that normally doesn't hit ground, but can hit a grounded Jack-5 or Kuma, just as it used to do in previous Tekken games (all other moves that used to do this in the past, such as WS+4, d/f+1 and CD+4, have lost this property). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Guard Breaker f,f,N+1+2 m GB MSc An offensive push. It doesn't do any damage, but hits quickly and breaks their guard, allowing for a free b+3 on counterhit. If the opponent's back is close to a wall and f,f,N+1+2 connects on CH, then you get free u/f+4 and subsequent wall splat. This move is very fast, hits mid, and tracks to King's right, but it has really short range, so it's more useful and deadly near walls. Learn to "see" the minor stun effect on CH, so you can get your free followups and not get blocked or whiff if the move doesn't connect on CH. If this move connects on regular hit, the opponent is pushed back just a bit, nothing is guaranteed, but your foe is still at frame disadvantage, so you can buffer GS or try iSW, or a b+1 if they try something stupid (can only be crushed). If the opponent blocks it, you can still interrupt most moves with King's jabs. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Black Bomb f,N,d,d/f+1+2 m KND BNc One of King's most powerful CH juggle starters. Black Bomb recovers horribly slow on block so that nearly every character gets free launchers on you, but it's fairly fast and has some good priority, thus you can actually beat other moves with it. Furthermore, CH CD+1+2 leads to massive damage combos (about 70 or 90 damage depending on your air iSW skills) and CH'ing with this move can really decide the round; so you should think about using it, even if sparingly at least. Actually, it's also possible to space yourself out of range before attempting the CD+1+2 so if your opponent blocks, the move pushes away on block reducing the amount of punishment to eat (for example: if you hit SS+2, u/b+1, or the f+4 in the 5.0 version of this game - the small stagger these 3 moves create will push them back, and here is when you can attempt a CD+1+2 without risks of being interrupted and if blocked, they will be too far for some close range launchers to hit you - for instance Jin's d+3+4 or u/f+4 will not reach King). Another situation where the CD+1+2 is usable, is against people who do wakeup kicks from grounded, as it beats them easily for the CH bounce. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- European Uppercut (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+1+2 m JG An average WS launcher, very useful to punish ducked throws, high attacks and those blocked lows. It also comes out of CD easily, can avoid highs decently, and is completely safe on block. This move also has suprisingly good tracking. I've seen King trying to follow Xiaoyu when she was doing her f,f+3+4 move, in which she jumps high over her opponent and ends facing his/her back, and King literally turned 180 degrees attempting to follow her! This move can even be used as pickup in okizeme, because if it lands on a rolling opponent, you can tack on a d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 small juggle easily. The flaws of WS+1+2 are mostly in its rather slow speed, and the range which isn't that good (even though the move has "ghost range" in that its hitbox is larger than the actual animation shows), thus it's far from abusable. Still one of King's greatest assets, so keep it in mind. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Body Check f+1+4 m GB MS Lots of priority, but not that much reach (which is why it was dubbed "King's flash"). This move has very good properties; on block, it gives advantage and 1,2 or 2,1 afterwards can't be interrupted or ducked; on hit, it sort of draws them closer to King, which makes up for a godlike throw setup. Still, I'd like to emphazise its modest range, plus it has an annoying trend to whiff ducking opponents (unless they're big characters). Cannot be reversed. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Shoulder Tackle f+2+3 m OCb KND Shoulder charge. A risky move, but somewhat useful for closing gaps. It works nicely vs backdash, sway/hayashida, Marduk's VTS backdash, etc. Semi-safe on guard, depending on your distance before the move was blocked (free WS+4 if blocked up close). An interesting note about f+2+3 is that you can actually perform it from BT stance for a brief amount of time after ending backturned (enter the command as if King was normally facing forwards); by doing this, King will run away from his enemy creating a lot of space in a hurry, getting himself out of some dangerous situations (if they try to run up and chase you, you're still able to CH BT 3 'em out of moves). This move is very linear (but still has good chances of hitting big chars in the midst of their SS) and has a huge lag on whiff, so don't get predictable with it. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Flying Body Press f,f+2+3 M MSco PLDc Not extremely useful unless it's in a guaranteed situation, or in wall combos and such. It's still the T4 version which only knocks down on clean or CH (and leaves you open to okizeme on block and even regular hit). This move is best used after the b+1+2~2+4 throw since it's a guaranteed followup and does nice damage (well, the u/f+2+4 is guaranteed too, but it doesn't do full damage if they try to get up or move quickly - f,f+2+3 always does full damage and King can get up faster after this move I believe). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Atomic Elbow Drop (u/b_u_u/f)+2+4 M OCb KS SLDc As with the f,f+2+3, it's only viable in wall combos or guaranteed situations. As far as I know, u/f+2+4 is guaranteed after a left side throw and b+1+2~2+4. You can also use this (u/b+2+4 version) to escape away from some rare "deer in the headlights unblockable coming your way" scenarios, but that looks kind of stupid, and most of the time you could have done better things instead. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Front Kick f+3 m MSc = DDT = :1+2 throw shift King's #2 mid. Short reach, but it has OK speed, great damage, and cannot be punished at all. On front hit, the :1+2 (DDT) is always guaranteed. Useful in oki to pickup (provided you're close to them) and juggle filler as well. You can also do f+3 out of dash/CD to increase the range if needed. The DDT throw leaves opponent face up, side towards King and if they try to get up quickly you may get them BT'ed (either d+3+4,4,4 or d+3+4,2). A CH f+3 gives a heavy stun in which they cannot duck under high moves for a while, nor interrupt, but the free DDT is the jackpot. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Rib Buster d/f+3 m = Neck Cutter = 4 h KND Mid poke with good reach, much like Yoshi's d/f+4, tracks SSR. CH d/f+3,4 is a natural combo, but if d/f+3 was blocked, you can be jabbed between the kicks. d/f+3 alone is safe for poking, whereas d/f+3,4 is good to kill SSR moves or if used sparingly (say, if they try to rush with slow stuff after blocking the first kick). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Crouching Low d/b+3 L KS JGc King's new low, it has fairly long range, crushes highs and juggles on CH. The small advantage you get on regular hit makes it a setup for FC/WS. However, it is very possible to parry it on reaction. Best used on anticipation of most highs (you should have +frames to start with if used up close). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Toll Kick b+3 h KND Long range thrust kick. It pushes away on block so it's a semi-safe move (it depends on your opponent's stuff). Retaliation of choice after push-away moves like Paul's deathfist, Hei's f,f+2 or blonde bomb. Handy whiff punisher since it sends them flying across the screen on hit, usually for a wall splat. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Falling Heel Kick u/f+3 M GB KND This is probably King's best groundhitter as of date. It's guaranteed after a d/b+4 on standing opponents, hits mid, jumps over lows for a reliable hit and keeps King safe on block due to guard break. Nice low risk oki move. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Blind Kick BT 3 M MS CSc = Stunner = :1+2 throw shift Part of BT mixups after a successful QCB+1+2 throw (guaranteed if the QCB+1+2 landed on a big), and followup to f+1+2 on ocassions. Unsafe on block, but can now hurt a lot on CH (dash deep enough to get the f,f+3 pickup). The stunner afterwards is optional; if the BT 3 front hits, it's guaranteed, but you must leave it out if you want the CH crumple stun for more damage. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Right Kick 4 h JGc King's "magic 4". Although practically replaced by b+1 for purposes of quick CH hunter, it's worth noting that 4 is much harder to punish on whiff, and it always juggles on a CH even if the opponent was side/backturned (CH b+1 only stuns on a FRONT counter hit). The 4 also tracks better to King's right. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Rolling Sobat (Tekken 5.0) f+4 m SH Rolling Sobat (Tekken 5.1) f+4 m KND CSc Yet another mid kick. Despite the looks, its range isn't as hot, this reaches about as far as the standard 4. It crushes lows (not the low jabs, these will juggle you out of it) and tracks to King's left side. It's much like SS+2 in that it causes small stagger on hit, and if blocked you're barely safe (is jab punishable when blocked near walls). This is one of those moves which can be either good or bad, depending on who your opponent is: the "not-so-long-as-it- looks" reach and hitbox detection issues are pretty annoying, and there are several moves that could travel under it somehow. Main use of this is for a close range mid instead of d/f+1>2 if your opponent likes to hit you low. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Knee Buster d/f+4 l You'll probably use this more now that d+4 has been weakened in recovery since this move is King's only safe, quick low poke. It still lacks range (in fact, its range is shorter than his generic d+4) so make sure you're pretty close to them before trying. Can be a bait for both of King's reversals against some WS trigger-happy players if blocked. It's also a quick ground hit against the big characters. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Low Dropkick d/b+4 L SLD Low dropkick. Slower than d/b+3, but much safer on block or whiff, since you are grounded. A smart opponent can easily low parry d/b+4 and launch, though. Thing is, it crushes low moves and can avoid highs at the end. Actually, it's an exceptional low crush move, because it hits low and ground, thus no matter how low does their move crouch, King will always hit them. Plus, an u/f+3 is guaranteed afterwards for decent combined damage. You can rely on this move to crush other low attacks with outstanding TC property, such as Feng's SS+4, or Xiaoyu's SS+3, which tend to go under a lot of other low crushes like f+4 or u/f+4. Also, another use for d/b+4 is as tech catcher after juggles ending in d+3+4,2, like CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2 for instance. If they techroll, it will catch them for the free u/f+3, and if they stay there, you will probably nail them grounded anyway. It doesn't do a heap of damage for a tech trap, but if it misses, you're safe. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Hopkick u/f+4 m JG King's fastest non-CH launcher, beats most lows up close. It's punishable by jabs on block, but it will lead to half (or near half) life juggles, so it's a move you can't live without. Great punisher after SS'ing or blocking moves, if the window is big enough. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Delayed Hopkick u/f,N+4 m JG Slower than u/f+4 but does more damage. It's another post low block launcher, like FC,d/f+2, WS+1+2 and FC,d/f+1. This one gets you the most damage, but it is unreliable when the opponent is left is some weird position (like Roger's SS+4, Law's d/b+4 or Nina's d,d/f+4...you might use u/f,d+4 in that case). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Konvict Kick f,f+4 m KND Konvict Kick DDT CH f,f+4 m, throw shift Another tool for punishing whiffs. It shifts into a free DDT on CH, but you really shouldn't be using this for CH hunting. It doesn't help that Mishima's TGF and notorious TC moves like Jack-5's d+1+2 tend to beat f,f+4. One good thing about this move is that you can dash and delay the 4 a lot, and still get the kick...but please don't have it blocked. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jumping Dark Knee f,N,d,d/f+4 m SH KNDcl Probably King's equivalent of Mishimas' TGF. Can't be reversed, does a lot of damage on clean hit, can duck under highs while in the CD and crushes lows by the end. Tracks a bit to King's right, I believe. A powerful combo starter if you're near walls, however the risk factor if blocked is big. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Rising Mid Kick (WS_f,N,d,d/f,N)+4 m Generic move, yet very important within King's arsenal. It's a good standard mid poke, pushes out the opponent on block allowing King to turtle, and sets up grabs on hit. Also invaluable as a part of CD mixups; a fast CD move, handy when used in combination with multis and other CD moves. Plus, it can pickup rolling opponents off ground. No bad things to say about iWS+4/CD~WS+4, except maybe the fact it doesn't do heaps of damage (but then again it would be kind of cheap if it did, think of a mid EWGF). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Ali Kick (d_FC)+3+4 or FC,d/f+4 L = Spin Upper = 2 m KND = Ali Kicks = 4,4 L,L MS Running Ali Kick WR+4 L = Spin Upper = 2 m KND = Ali Kicks = 4,4 L,L MS d+3+4 alone, as a ground hit, is worthless. Stick with u/f+3 for your default okizeme move. d+3+4,2 is still useful as juggle ender and as a (crappy) pickup tool in oki. WR+4 is an alright move in a running mixup, if used sparingly and mixed with the mid WR+1+2 (doing WR+4,2 isn't really recommended at this point unless the opponent was grounded and you know the WR+4 will pick up, or if you are really, really sure the WR+4 will be a CH). On a side note, if you need a quick ground hit on bigs, use of d+4_d/f+4_d+3 is viable. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Satellite Exploder (f,f,f_WR)+3+4 h_m GB KND Long range version of f,f+3+4 minus the advantage on block. Even though this is fairly linear, it's sort of hard to SS this move because if they do, King grazes their body and lands BEHIND them, and that guarantees a wakeup 4 kick on their back. Kind of a decent running move to close huge gaps, if you don't have enough room to start WR+1+2. A lucky jab can float you out of it. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Deadly Boomerang SS+3+4 h GB KND High SS power shot. Used at random times to hit SS'ers at mid range or just to gamble for a hit. SS+2 and u/f+4 do better at SS punishment, this move is too slow to be a real danger against them. It crushes lows, is safe on block, but they really don't block it that often. Name Command Properties ---- ------- ---------- Arm Whip b+1+3 (right punch reversal) Unchickenable Double Heel Hold b+2+4 (left kick reversal) Unchickenable Leg Screw b+2+4 (right kick reversal) Unchickenable Right punch reversal & kick reversals, respectively. Very useful to neutralize slow moves and non-jail strings. b+1+3 can also reverse some 1+2 punch moves in the game (a detailed list is below). Don't use the :3+4 after a right kick reversal: it's much better to mix up the actual ground throws so they don't break them. Name Command Properties ---- ------- ---------- Taunting Dance 1+2+3+4 Allows a CH; moves will damage on guard = Charging Dance = ~1+2+3+4 for a short time King's brand new supercharger animation in T5. Now, he dances (the same dance he does in one of his victory poses) while glowing, but after a short while, King is able to cancel it into any move, although the charge effect soon fades away. If you press 1+2+3+4 (or just 1+2+3) again, King can't cancel, but he'll end charged for a longer time after the dance. So the cancellable dance works more or less like a taunt, whereas the uncancellable one is actually the real supercharger. This might be pretty evil; the taunting dance might invite your opponents to attack, but if you cancel into a quick move (namely b+1) you may score a CH. Reversals here are good as well. On the other hand, a charging dance ensures the CH, otherwise throw them if they don't attack. Make no mistake, this is really far from any kind of high-level strategy; but it's a resource you can use if you are feeling "dry" or in need of fresh setups for damage. Nevertheless, this is also a double edged sword: if you do a charging dance, you're vulnerable to eat CHs yourself. Despite that, King's charging dance is heaps better than the generic supercharger, as the animation has him moving off-axis and a rushing opponent may whiff if not careful about the tracking. Remember that, since you can't block while supercharged, your only forms of defense in this state are 1) reversal 2) low parry 3) sidestep and 4) crush. Name Command Properties ---- ------- ---------- Jaguar Step (JGS) 3+4 (movement), TJ (low crush) Jaguar Steps (JGS) 3+4* Same as above, but falldown after 6x Decent to cover ground quickly, but King will get dizzy and fall after 6 spins a la Yoshimitsu so use with wisdom. Even though 3+4 does have some low crush frames, d/b+4, u/f+4 or u/f+1+2 are generally better options (mainly because of their consistent low crush properties). Against a standing opponent, you're quite vulnerable when doing this (especially if you go beyond the first spin), so real application of JGS moves is fairly limited to tech traps after juggles and the like. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jaguar Elbow JGS 2 m OCb OC SLDc Looks the same as f,f+2 but evades lows at certain frames in the middle of the JGS animation. This move floors them on CH just as King's CH d/f+1 used to in previous games. Not that bad, but I myself would prefer f,f+2 rather than this move (because I don't use JGS that much in the first place). On CH, you get a free u/f+3 or free f+3 on Kuma (will pick him up if he moves). Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jaguar High JGS 4 h GB KND Slow, high roundhouse kick whose properties resemble those of TTT Jun's f+3; guard break, becomes unblockable after 3 spins. Very good on guard (+12 frames where they can't duck any highs, just block them standing. They can duck grabs though). The problem is that it's slow, and hits high. This can be used to hit backrollers, but there are better moves to do the job. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jaguar Middle JGS d/f+4 m OCb KND If you have troubles trying to pull this out, the real notation for this move is something like 3+4~D/F>4. Just make sure you press 3+4 and hold d/f right after that. Anyway, it's much like JGS 4 except that it doesn't hit high, but mid instead, and it doesn't get unblockable. This covers SS very well (as does JGS 4), but it isn't as good as the former on block because they get at least a free WS+4 up close (you might be safer if they block at the edge, but the disadvantage is still there). As such, it's not extremely usable because of the slow speed and recovery on block issues. Unblockables! ------------- Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Jaguar Impact f+1+2* KND Thanks to walls, this has an use again. Can be used after most wall splats on big opponents. But it doesn't do very well outside of that. It might surprise an opponent after a CH f+3 stun for the first time (after a CH f+3 stun, they cannot interrupt it, nor move out of its way), but they will catch on quickly. Otherwise, it is a very slow, high unblockable that should be avoided. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Atomic Blaster BT 1+2 KND I really can't think of a reasonable use for this. It comes out too slow for a BT move. If I know I am BT'ed next to them and they're standing afraid of the mid BT 3, I almost always use the BT 1+3 and BT 2+4 (turnaround basic grabs), but not this move. Besides, if things were not bad enough, this move tends to whiff if King is slightly off axis. Do yourself a favor, forget this move and use the basic BT grabs. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Burning Knuckle u/f+1+2* [!] KND It's just too slow (in fact much slower than TTT Armor King's version, which was slow already) and noticeable to be used on a standing opponent. Perhaps a bit more useful as an oki and anti-techroll move after certain juggles, and/or with the help of walls (actually easier to land on the bigger characters). I myself have *moderate* success catching with this after ending a juggle with 1+2,1 on bigs. If possible, stick with the version described right below. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Quick Burning Knuckle u/b~u~u/f+1+2 [!] KND This is not an actual move, but a rare glitch discovered by accident. It looks identical to u/f+1+2* and has exactly the same properties, but executes at a much faster speed. Note that the command for this move may be rather obscure, however it still is something along these lines. Now, what makes it a glitch is the fact that if you screw the move's input, you get an uber-slow version of u/f+1+2 instead (even if this "5x-slower" u/f+1+2 hits, the opponent has enough time to stand up and kick King's ass while he's still recovering). My theory is that somehow, the u/f+1+2 "trades speeds" with the u/f+1+2*, so that u/f+1+2 becomes 88 frames (which is the amount of frames that u/f+1+2* takes to hit), and the u/f+1+2* becomes 35 frames...Truth or not, this glitch will need a good amount of practice to perfect, but it DOES have some real uses. Name Command Hit level Properties ---- ------- --------- ---------- Twist Moonsault Body Press 1+4 [!] PLD Quick Moonsault Body Press BT 1+4 [!] PLD By far, the best of King's unblockables. Fairly fast (for an unblockable that hits ground anyway), has a large hitbox which likes to hit even if they are somewhat off-axis (as it happens after techrolls). This move connects a lot if set up properly. It's a good choice to nail someone after a wall combo as well. Can be used in techtraps by ending juggles with b+1, it hits for decent damage. King will end up grounded face down, so a FCD 3 sweep afterwards might be able to float opponents for a free FC,d/f+1 or any suitable juggle. +--------------+ | Top 10 moves | +--------------+ Decided to build this section to make clear where are the good moves, the ones that make the core of his arsenal in high levels of play. I decided to leave out the throws, which are good but breakable: Best 10 moves: -------------- b+1 - Very fast, long range considering how quick it is. Safe on block, half life damage combos on CH. f,f,N+1+2 - Very fast too, forces lockdown on block and hit, on CH free b+3 in open fields, or uf+4 for better wall splats at the wall. Short range, but hits mid. d/f+1>2 - Still his best mid, although not as good as before. 2,1 - Now that other characters' jab strings (like Mishimas 1,1,2) are toned down, it's probably one of the best jab moves in the game. Not the best, but damn near there. Setup for a lot of stuff. f+3:1+2 - Alright mid, short range, but semi fast, safe on block, and it deals good damage plus oki. u/f+4 - Sure, it has short range and it's jab punishable, we all know, but the hopkick is fast enough, crushes lows and deals up to 70 damage juggles on hit. Also, it's almost always guaranteed after low parry. SS+2 - Alright SS poke, mostly safe on block, gives advantage on hit. WS+4/CD,WS+4 - Pretty fast mid, safe on block, decent range. Generic, but it's probably the most damaging and the longest-reaching single hit generic WS+4 in the game. Can be done out of CD. WS+1+2/CD,WS+1+2 - Slow, not a lot of range, but 70+ damage juggles on hit and safe on block. Use in combination with CD,WS+4 and CD multithrows and you have an actual CD mixup. u/f+3 - Oki move of choice, crushes lows, safe on block and even whiff, deals decent damage. Honorable mentions: ------------------ (other candidates for top 10, but for some reason didn't get there) 1 - simple left jab, 9 frames +2 on block, can setup lots of things. Didn't go into the top 10 because it doesn't do a lot of damage, and 1,2 overall isn't as good as 2,1 is. Still very good as it gives advantage on block. 1,2>1 - nice for pressure with the last delayed 1 for a possible CH and free 2,1, however it leaves you at negative frames on block even though it's still very safe. f+4 (5.1) - mostly safe mid, crushes lows, good damage on CH/wall splat, and tracks SSR decently. Didn't go into the top 10 because it's not as fast and damaging as d/f+1,2 or f+3:1+2 on regular hit. d/f+3 - fast mid, safe on block, tracks SSR decently and that's what it's good for, however it does pretty weak damage unless you use the unsafer d/f+3,4 and hope the d/f+3 counterhits. d+1,N+2 - quick TC move to beat 8 frame jabs and such, but zero range. 1+2,1 - doesn't require directions to input so it's good after SS. Deals good damage by itself, half life on wall splat, decent punisher (after SS). It did not go in the top 10 as it's unsafe on block (very unsafe against a select few characters). f+1+2 - high, slow, but long range, good damage on hit plus oki, and safe on block. This doesn't telegraph at all unlike f,f moves, but it isn't as fast as it looks. CD+1+2 - the CH launcher of death, surprisingly fast, can evade highs (thanks to the CD) and has good priority. Also does fairly well in oki, but hideously unsafe on block. u/f+1+2 - another juggle starter, horribly slow and linear, can be juggled out of, but does lockdown on block, high damage by itself (80% life on CH), long range and crushes lows very well, too. f+1+4 - lockdown on hit AND block, short range and a bit slow though. f+2+3 - long range, good damage (even more on wall splat), but pretty slow, linear and barely unsafe on block. FC,d/f+2 - another mid launcher, 80 dmg combos on hit, fair range, but pretty bad on block and also kinda hard to pull out. b+3 - faster than f+1+2 and long range as well, but it's punishable on block (depends on matchup though) and weak damage unless on wall splat. As a whiff punisher, b+3 is actually more useful near the wall, whereas f+1+2 is probably better in open fields. u/f,N+4_u/f,d+4 - like u/f+4, but way more damage at the cost of being slower. u/f,d+4 kills lows as well as u/f+1+2 does, but leads to more damage on normal hit and can be used more up close unlike u/f+1+2, again at the cost of being punishable on block. d/f+4 - alright low poke, +2 on hit but has virtually no range whatsoever. d/b+3 - long range low, weak advantage on hit, juggles on CH but can be seen by good players. Best used as high crush at mid range. More stuff only good depending on circumstance: ---------------------------------------------- u/b+1 - slow SS evading high move, anti-SSL useful against Baek's triple SS FC,d/f+1 - slow low hitting launcher, can be used to evade highs f,f+2+3 - not that good to tech catch but can do the job, better to use this after wall splat or in oki, as it leaves you very vulnerable on ground. u/f+2+4 - only really good after the b+1+2~2+4 throw or left sidethrow. BT 1+4 - good as tech catch or in oki when you're BT'ed f+2,2[,2] - juggle filler/ender; f+2,2 is also useful to punish when out of u/f+4 range BT 3 - Self-defense move if you're being attacked from behind, fast and can stun on CH but recovers horribly slow on block, it's also followup to f+1+2 or QCB+1+2 throw. d/b+4 - good tech catch after d+3+4,2 in juggles, free u/f+3 if you hit 'em standing, super low crush move. Not too good because it's pretty slow and can be punished with ground hits on block. d+3+4,2 - juggle ender, crappy pickup tool d+3+4,4,4 - only good if your opponent was backturned for some reason, as they are all guaranteed on someone's back and will knock King's opponent down. SS+3+4 - high SS move, crushes lows, tons of damage but too slow. Nearly or plain useless moves: ------------------------------ f,f+1 (overshadowed by f+1+2 for the most part. Move is serious candidate for a major revamp for next Tekkens because there are better choices) b+2 (low damage, too slow and doesn't hit) b+2* (overshadowed by u/b+1, doesn't like to hit either) f,f,N+2 (overshadowed by d/b+3) WS+2 (overshadowed by FC,d/f+2, u/f+4 and WS+1+2; another candidate for major revamps) BT 1+2 (overshadowed by BT 1+3_2+4 - whiffs a lot if just a hair off-axis) d/f+3+4 (slow, special mid, low damage even on throw = no reason to use it) +--------------------+ | 5.0 -> 5.1 changes | +--------------------+ The 5.1 changes didn't affect King as much as they did to other characters in the game, you can almost say King is pretty much the same in both versions of Tekken 5. Let's see the changes in depth: System changes: - Wall damage removed: Giant Swing and Mini Swing throws (along with a few other throws in the game) will do normal damage if the opponent hits a wall. Basically, the extra damage they took from a wall hit in 5.0 isn't there anymore, so GS/MS will do the same damage they normally do when they're not techrolled. Also b+1+2 won't hurt them at all anymore, but for both b+1+2 and GS/MS the wall splat effect still gives free extra hits. Naturally, the damage for wall combos is decreased too. However wall damage wasn't too much (just 5 points or so) so not a big loss to cry about anyway. It's actually more of a positive change because OTHER characters lost their previously mad damage wall combos, so King can survive more against those characters should he eat the wall. +/- Ground damage is decreased from 100% to 70%: In T5.1 if a character is hit while grounded, it will take less damage than if hit by that same move when standing. As an example, King's u/f+3 used to cause 18 damage points, now it deals about 13. Or, King's d+3+4 which did 10 points (if you didn't do more kicks afterwards) in 5.0, now in 5.1 it only does 7 damage (weak, isn't it?) It may sound pretty bad, but it's a new system change which is affecting all characters in the whole, so King also gets to take less damage if hit by an enemy move while grounded. However, I think the ground throws are unaffected by this change. So if you get a good chance for a ground throw, do that! + "Mach Punch" knockdown backrollable: this kind of knockdown used to give guaranteed ground hits in Tekken 5.0, now you can tap ~b to backroll after the knockdown and therefore avoid those formerly guaranteed hits. For King, it means his CH b+2 has lost its previously guaranteed followups. However, the change doesn't hurt him that bad since his b+2 is slow, and therefore unlikely to hit on CH anyway; this change should be seen as a positive one for King instead, because *other* opponent's moves like Bryan's Mach Punch and Heihachi's CH 2~1 etc. lose their guaranteed followups, and now King will take less damage if he gets hit by them. - Less vulnerable frames in techroll: If an opponent does techroll after the knockdown, he/she can now block much earlier in the roll than possible in 5.0. In other words, a tech trap (hitting a techrolling opponent) is now harder to get, and some of them are no longer possible. However, most of King's tech traps are unaffected by this, either because they still connect in the early frames of the animation, or in the case of the ones that make use of his 1+4, it's an unblockable, no matter how faster they can block now, an unblockable is still going to hit anyway. King specific changes: - After d/b,f+2 throw, opponent's recovery is decreased: no guaranteed d+3+4 afterwards anymore. One of the biggest setbacks for 5.1 King so far. Looks like Namco doesn't want King to have damaging single throws anymore, save maybe for GS into the wall. - Giant Swing damage in multithrows has damage adjusted: Pretty much what I explained in the system changes. The GS/MS enders (from d+2+4 air multithrow and Cobra Clutch/Full Nelson multithrow starters) will do the same damage on a wall hit. Followups after wall splat are still there. Considering that even those multithrows are already hard to begin with, (save for the d+2+4) hard to get to the GS enders, and that extra wall damage wasn't that much, you can ignore this. - d/f+1,2 - less pushback on block if 2 is not delayed: you must use the delay version at all times in order to be safe, otherwise they get jab punishment for free on guard. Just remember, the move still combos on slight delay, you don't delay the 2 for too long, train yourself into getting the right timing if necessary, not that hard to do. On the good side, it seems that you don't get as much pushback on hit either, so now you can take more advantage when d/f+1,2 hits. - FC,d/f+2 damage decreased from 23 to 21: In 5.1 the combos starting with the FC,d/f+2 move will deal their 5.0 damage minus 2 points, not too much to cry about. + b+1+3 reversal can be done out of FC/WS position, damage now depends on the opponent's reversed move: Self-explanatory; now you can perform the b+1+3 from crouch and King will do his right punch reversal, not the kick one. The b+2+4 is still there if you need to reverse kicks. + f+4 causes knockdown on normal hit, and crumple stun on CH: even with the notorious improvements on hit, the move isn't too good to begin with. The problem with the crappy hitbox are still there and unfixed, some moves like Xiaoyu's AOP stance and Mishima's TGF will still travel under it. A CH f+4 only gives d+3+4,2 as juggle (if you land it near the wall) for a total of 37 damage or so. +--------------------------+ | Tekken 5 King Frame Data | +--------------------------+ Thanks to RVD++ for posting the frame data online so everyone can see it. (*) = T5 data for this move not available yet. Filled with current T4 data ?? = Unknown data Brief explanation: Command column: shows the command for the mentioned move F-hit column: amount of frames the move takes to hit (or grab) your opponent B-adv column: amount of frames King gets after the move is blocked H-adv column: amount of frames King gets after the move hits CH-adv column: amount of frames King gets after the move hits on counter +N = advantage to King for N frames; opponent is unable to do anything in the corresponding number of frames -N = disadvantage to King for N frames; King is unable to do anything in the corresponding number of frames !N = advantage to King for N frames; opponent is unable to duck high moves, but can still block any high/mid/low move and duck throws x = King ends grounded, opponent is still standing (x* denotes where King can get up safely) KD = move knocks down JG = move knocks down, but juggle possible at this point Note that frame advantage/disadvantage and hit effects for some moves may vary depending on how close or far the move is blocked or hits. Command F-hit H-adv 1+3_2+4 12 KD f+(1+3)_(2+4) 15 KD (WR_f,f,f)+2+4(*) 10 KD f,HCF+1(*) 10 KD FC,d/b,d,d/b+1+2(*) 12 KD d/b,f+2(*) 11 KD QCB+1+2(*) 11 KD d/f+2+3(*) 12 KD d/b+1+2(*) 12 KD b+1+2(*) 13 +15 = 1+2 +5 = 1+3 +15 = 2+4 KD = 3+4 KD d+(1+3_2+4)(*) 15 KD f,N,d,d/f+1+4(*) 13 KD f,N,d,d/f+2+3(*) 13 KD d/f,d/f+(1+3_2+4)(*)15 KD (d/b_D/B)+2+4(*) 18 KD JGS (1+4_2+3) ?? KD Command F-hit B-adv H-adv CH-adv d+1 10 -5 +6 +6 d+2 11 -4 +7 +7 d+4(*) 14 -11 0 0 4 13 -5 +4 JG WS+1(*) 11 -3 +4 +4 WS+4 11 -6 +5 +5 u/f+4 15 -12 JG JG u/f,N+4 23 -11 JG JG (N_f)+1,2>1 9_10 +2 -1 -4 +8 +6 +5 +8 +6 +10 d/f+1~2 14 -1 -10 +1 +1 +1 +1 d/f+1>2 14 -1 -5 +1 +6 +1 +6 d+1,N+2 10 -5 -10 +6 0 +6 0 b+1 12 -6 +5 JG u/b+1 21 -10 +6 +6 f,f+1 18 0 KD KD FC,d/f+1 30 -9 JG JG 2,1 10 +1 0 +7 +6 +7 +6 f+2>2>2 15 -3 -3 -12 +3 +6 +5 +3 +6 KD f+2>2>2~B 15 -3 -13 +3 -4 +3 -4 d/f+2 13 -6 +3 +3 b+2 26 +7 0 0 b+2* 28 -10 +1 KD f,f+2>1 31 +2 +2 +4 KD +4 KD f,f,N+2 18 -17 -6 KD FC,d/f+2 15 -14 JG JG WS+2 15 -13 KD KD SS+2 15 -11 +5 +5 1+2,1 18 -14 -13 -5 KD -5 KD f+1+2 19 0 KD KD d+1+2 30 -4 -5 -5 u/f+1+2 35 +1 JG JG f,f+1+2 (as high) 20 (-5)_(+12) KD KD f,f+1+2 (as low) 43 -25 KD KD f,f,N+1+2 9 +2 +5 +16 f,N,d,d/f+1+2 15 -15 KD JG WS+1+2 18 -7 JG JG f+1+4 17 +2 +5 +5 f+2+3 25 (-9)~(-12) KD KD f,f+2+3 21 x x KD (u/b_u_u/f)+2+4 48 x* x* KD f+3 15 -6 +6 !31 d/f+3,4 14 -9 x +2 KD +2 KD d/b+3 23 -15 +1 JG b+3 16 -15 KD KD u/f+3 22 x* KD KD BT 3 13 -20 +7 JG f+4 (Tekken 5.0) 16 -11 +5 +5 f+4 (Tekken 5.1) 16 -11 KD JG d/f+4 14 -9 +2 +2 d/b+4 27 x KD KD b+4 15 -6_-16 KD KD f,f+4 15 -18 KD KD f,N,d,d/f+4 16 -15 +7_KD +7_KD WR+4 14 -29 -13 -13 d+3+4,2 16 -29 -17 -13 KD -13 KD d+3+4,4,4 16 -29 -35 -35 -13 -19 +6 -13 -19 +6 d/f+3+4 28 x x x u/f+3+4 23 x KD KD (f_f,f)+3+4 38 +8 KD KD SS+3+4 29 x KD KD (WR_f,f,f)+3+4 28 x* KD KD JGS 2 35 0 +7 KD JGS 2 2nd spin 67 0 +7 KD JGS 2 3rd spin 99 0 +7 KD JGS 2 4th spin 131 0 +7 KD JGS 2 5th spin 163 0 +7 KD JGS 4 40 !13 KD KD JGS 4 2nd spin 72 !15 KD KD JGS 4 3rd spin 104 KD KD KD JGS 4 4th spin 136 KD KD KD JGS 4 5th spin 168 KD KD KD JGS d/f+4 40 -13 KD KD JGS d/f+4 2nd spin 72 -13 KD KD JGS d/f+4 3rd spin 104 +8 KD KD JGS d/f+4 4th spin 136 +8 KD KD JGS d/f+4 5th spin 168 +8 KD KD f+1+2* 29 KD KD KD u/f+1+2* 88 KD KD KD u/b~u~u/f+1+2 ?? KD KD KD BT 1+2 27 KD KD KD 1+4 52 KD KD KD BT 1+4 41 KD KD KD JGS 4 3rd spin 104 KD KD KD Unimportant note: In CH d+3+4,4,4,4, the Frame Advantage on hit for the 3rd hit is +11, and the Frame Advantage for the 5th hit is +15 (opponent completely unable to block in both cases). If d+3+4 connects on normal hit, the advantage will remain as stated in the table. +--------------------+ | King in a nutshell | +--------------------+ This is somewhat of a quick reminder of the best uses for each move. Poking tools ------------ 1,2(>1) 2,1 d+1,N+2 (crushes highs - short range) d+2 (crushes highs - same range as standing jabs) d/f+1,2 (preferably d/f+1>2) b+1 d/f+2 (short range) d/f+3 f+3 d+4 (crushes highs) d/f+4 (low poke - short range) iWS+4 Throws (the staple ones to land) ------ f,HCF+1 d/b,f+2 QCB+1+2 f,f,f+2+4 CH catchers ----------- b+1 f,f,N+1+2 f,N,d,d/f+1+2 d/b+3 BT 3 Whiff punishers --------------- b+3 f+1+2 f,f+4 f,f+1 1+2,1 (more useful after sidesteping) SS+2 (after sidestepping) u/f+4 (after sidestepping or if you are very close to them) WS+4 (after ducking jabs) WS+1+2 (after ducking other high attacks or throws) High/mid block punishers ------------------------ 1,2 (close range 9 frames) f+1,2/2,1 (close range 10 frames) b+1 (mid range 12 frames) d/f+1,2 (close-mid range 14 frames) u/f+4 (close range 15 frames) f+2,2 (mid range 15 frames) b+4 (mid-long range 15 frames) b+3 (long range 16 frames) 1+2,1 (mid range 18 frames) u/f,N+4 (mid range 23+ frames) Low block punishers ------------------- WS+4 (close-mid range 11 frames) (FC,)u/f+4 (close range 15 frames) WS+2 (mid range 15 frames - might lead to wall stun) FC,d/f+2 (mid range 16 frames) WS+1+2 (close range 18 frames - juggles better than FC,d/f+2 against bigs) u/f,N+4 (mid range 23 frames) FC,d/f+1 (long range 30 frames) u/f,d+4 (mid range 35 frames) u/f+1+2 (long range 35 frames) Crushes ------- High crushes: Low crushes: d+1,N+2 u/f+4 (juggles) d+2 u/f+3 d/b+3 (juggles on CH) d/b+4 (+ u/f+3 after hit) FC,d/f+1 (juggles) u/f+1+2 (juggles) d+4 f+4 d+3+4 (not really useful) SS+3+4 The guaranteed stuff -------------------- Natural combos: (N_f)+1,2 - 21_23 dmg 2,1 - 22 dmg d/f+1>2 (even on slight delay) - 27 dmg f+2,2 - 30 dmg 1+2,1 - 39 dmg front hit f+3:1+2 - 38 dmg front hit BT 3:1+2 - 35 dmg d/b+4, u/f+3 - 28 dmg (if opponent tries to move) or 32 dmg (if opponent does lay there or sideroll) Combos on CH: (blocked or missed 1,2)>1, 2,1 - 32+ dmg d+1,N+2 - 18+ dmg d/f+3,4 - 32+ dmg d+3+4,2 (not on crouching opponent) - 20+ dmg d+3+4,4 - 24+ dmg f,f+2>1 (even on long delay, front CH only) - 45+ dmg f,f,N+1+2, b+3 - 23 dmg Combos on a BT opponent: d+1,N+2 (18 dmg) f+2,2,2 (51 dmg) d+3+4,2 (20 dmg, knockdown - good near walls) d+3+4,4,4 (28 dmg, knockdown - free FC+3+4 or FC,df+3 afterwards) Natural multithrow combos (if the multi starter lands, the following link is guaranteed): d/f+1+2_SS+2+4 (front)_d/f,d/f+(1+3_2+4), 2,2,1+2 - 43 dmg JGS (1+4_2+3), 1,4,2,3 - 32 dmg +-------------------+ | King's strategies | +-------------------+ Command throw buffers & setups ------------------------------ King has some low attacks, but none of them is particularly good. His d/b+3 and d/b+4 are both fairly slow and therefore, more useful to crush other moves rather than beating their standing guard and forcing them to crouch. On the other side, he has d/f+4 and generic d+4 which are fast, but they almost don't do damage and have arguably short reach. Because of this, in high levels of play, King's mixup on an idle, turtling opponent is purely a mid and command throw mixup. Throw buffers are actually a good part of King's game. Granted it's very risky to attempt grabs at the risk of duck and WS launchers, throws are still one of King's ways to deal high damage, specially on a passive opponent. However you can also throw aggressive opponents out of their moves (as long as it's not a high crush attack; throws are considered as highs in that aspect), because the throws have been given above average priority in Tekken 5. So now, throwing is fairly valid on both aggressive and passive opponents. - Giant Swing: This throw has crazy range and is very bufferable. You can buffer the GS off so many moves. A basic buffer is f+1, HCF+1 (or f,2, HCF+1) A jab buffered into a GS. The essence is to "split" the Giant Swing command into its two halves, the f and the HCF+1. That way, you have f,N+2,1, HCF+1 Old school, this is the 2,1 into a GS (not a "combo" as in T3 but still works as a buffer). f+1+4, HCF+1 King's "chest bump" into the GS. Nice and safe. f,SS, HCF+1 The SS into a GS. f,f,HCF+1 Dash into GS. Very easy and important to King's GS/iSW mixup. f,N,d,d/f, f,HCF+1 Crouch dash into a GS. f,f,f,HCF+1 Run into GS. Basically, any move with a forward input can buffer a GS. f,f,f,HCF+1 f,f,HCF+1 f+1, HCF+1 f+2, HCF+1 f+3, HCF+1 f+1+4, HCF+1 f,f,N+1+2, HCF+1 You can make your own throw setups that way. A more complete list would be: CD, GS SS, GS 1_2, GS 1,2 hit, GS 2,1, GS b+1 regular hit, GS 4 regular hit, GS d+1_d+2 hit, GS WS+1 hit, GS WS+4, GS f,f,N+1+2, GS f+1+4, GS f+2 hit, GS f+2,2 hit, GS d/f+1, GS d/f+2, GS u/b+1 (hit at wall), GS f+4 (5.0 hit at wall), GS SS+2 (hit at wall), GS f+3 hit, GS u/f+1+2 blocked, GS f,f+3+4 blocked, GS JGS 4 blocked, GS For moves that don't have a forward input, like d/f+2, b+1 or SS+2, you don't buffer the first f, instead of that you're tapping f when the move impacts your opponent and then complete the throw's command as the animation finishes; this is not buffering per se, and can be done with every move, not just grabs, but when done correctly can be just as effective. u/f+1+2 blocked, GS: Easy, simply hit f when the move "hits", then input HCF+1 right after King recovers from the move. The u/f+1+2, GS setup can be useful against the big characters, as the move is too slow to hit them in the ground, so they usually stand up and block it. Giving you a perfect chance for a throw. f+1,2, GS: If you want to buffer the throw out of f+1,2, you must keep holding forward during the WHOLE animation of 1,2, so when the animation ends you can just enter HCF+1. Therefore the actual input for this is F+1,2, HCF+1. I emphasize to keep holding forward during 1,2, not only before the first jab comes out. WS+4, GS: The trick here is to input the WS+4 as WS,f+4. If you do this you just have to enter HCF+1 afterwards. So if you do WS,f+4, HCF+1 this should come out smooth and fluent. The downside of WS,f+4 is that it may take a few more frames than WS+4, which is 11 frames flat. This also works with WS+1. - Tombstone Piledriver: Much like the GS, Tombstone can also be buffered. However, unlike GS, this throw is not as bufferable because King doesn't have a move that is done with the d/b diagonal and that leaves him standing, d/b+1, d/b+2 and d/b+3 will put him into FC, so you're limited to the most basic form of buffering which is to do d/b when the move impacts and then complete the command when the animation finishes, this way you can make it come out from some attacks. d/b, SS, f+2 The SS into a TS. u/f+1+2 blocked, TS: Hit d/b when the move "hits" then f+2 after King's recovery. Other moves that can setup a TS are: 1, TS 2, TS 2,1, TS d/f+2, TS WS+1, TS SS+2, TS f+1+4, TS Another issue with the Tombstone is that it has a short range, much shorter than that of GS, so you're looking for pokes that don't have a lot of pushback because you're leaving yourself out of range to grab; otherwise, if a move has pushback then it's best used when there's a wall behind your opponent, hence for instance in the SS+2, TS setup, it's meant to work if the SS+2 hits when a wall was behind your opp, or if the SS+2 is blocked and the opponent moves in, either by dashing towards you, or by doing some slow attack that moves him forwards (many attacks do this). FC Tombstone: You can make the TS come out of full crouch. The command is kind of ugly as TS comes slowly, but you might find it useful, if you duck a high or block a safe low. FC,d/b,N (stand up), f+2. - Shining Wizard: This throw is harder to pull out in a fluent way, and it needs some distance to execute. But it is extremely useful in a mixup with Giant Swing since the Wizard is the only throw that can match GS's range and speed. Good setups for Wizard are: d/f+3 hit, iSW WS+4 hit, iSW f,f,N+1+2 hit or CH, iSW f+1+4, iSW u/b+1 hit, iSW u/b+4, iSW SS+2 hit, iSW f+3 CH, iSW (Tekken 5.0) f+4 hit, iSW All of the above setups also work for GS, since you can buffer GS out of dash and run. Buffering the GS outta dash/run is ESSENTIAL to keep alive the mixup with iSW. There is a big thread about the ways to pull out iSW (Instant Shining Wizard) which can be found at www.tekkenzaibatsu.com forums. Check it out at the URL: http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=72084 The iSW is one of those moves that require lots of practice, but once mastered it can make you a better King player. - Rock Bottom setups: Rock Bottom is the only FC throw King can do, while this is true only on the surface, it also means that it's one of the most escaped throws in the game. Prevent this from happening by doing the basic WS+1+3 and WS+2+4 ocasionally. d+1, RB d+2, RB d/b+3 regular hit, RB d+4 hit, RB any opponent attack that leaves you in FC on block, RB Hop into Rock Bottom: This is an old-school tactic still existent in T5. When your character lands from a hop, it's in FC position right after landing for a few frames. Since your character is in FC, you can execute WS/FC moves including FC throws. The notation goes like this: u/f,(d~d/b),[d~d/b+1+2] u/f is the hop. The part between parenthesis is done in mid air, and the part between square brackets is done right after landing. This means you can buffer the first half of FC,d/b,d,d/b+1+2 while in mid air, and complete the command when landing. Furthermore, in addition to making your throw more subtle, you can mix up with mid moves like WS+4, WS+1+2 or u/f+4, or other throws (actually, you can do this same hop buffer for Tombstone, but you need to wait until King stands so it will take a couple of frames slower than RB). The above tactic is more useful in okizeme, moreso right after some juggles, since you are prone to be jabbed out of the hop if you attempt it on an idle opponent. However in most okizeme situations they won't be able to jab or even move around since they're rising from the knockdown, hence giving you the time to hop safely into mixups. - Low multithrow: The d/f,d/f+(1+3_2+4) is bufferable as well. Not quite as useful as the other throws, but for the sake of completeness I will add the buffers here. d/f, SS, d/f+(1+3_2+4) CD, f, d/f+(1+3_2+4) d/f+1 (blocked), dash d/f+(1+3_2+4) d/f generic low parry, d/f+(1+3_2+4) Multithrows ----------- OK, multithrows happen to be a part of King's movelist, and they shouldn't be ignored. Well, at least not the important ones. The multithrows you'll use the most are CD+1+3 and CD+2+4, mostly because both are part of King's CD mixup. Also because of the CD requirement (which makes you duck under the opponent's high moves) depending on the opponent's actions, you might be able to land one of them once in a while. As for the rest of multis in King's arsenal, QCF+1 is basically worthless (because you can easily use a GS throw as replacement, GS has only one chance to be escaped, and does more damage), the new JGS multi is pretty hard to land (it might work if the opponent does some dumb low, but I'd rather not count on that, because the actual risk of whiffing is usually HUGE) and the SS one can be easily seen, and punished if you didn't avoid something with the previous SS, it can be escaped like a sidethrow, and SS hopkick is generally more rewarding. The d/f,d/f+(1+3_2+4) form is better because you can use it after a low parry, but other than that, the CD+1+4 and CD+2+3 should be the main ones to land. So, now that you've landed the multi starter, you wonder what to do? OK, I've received an e-mail from a player asking me how to do all these multis. So I guess I should explain for the first-time players out there how does those canned throws work. Let's make this clear via an hypothetical example: Throw A = Throw B = Throw C = Throw D = Throw E = Throw F You begin by landing the Throw A on your opponent. Then you can follow it up with either Throw B, or Throw C. The first obvious thing here is that you MUST follow the given path, e.g. you cannot do Throw B or Throw C if you didn't do the Throw A first. The same goes for Throw D, Throw E and all links that come afterwards, and (again quite obvious) this implies that your opponent must NOT escape out of the Throw A because that would shut down the whole multithrow. And if you're trying to get to the Throw F your opponent must eat all of the other throws that come before F. Got it? That's the reason of the increasing indents as the links go deeper. It means a sequence in which you cannot skip to the step 3 if you didn't do step 2 first. Now that you've landed the Throw A, there are three possible paths you can follow afterwards: - Throw A, Throw B - Throw A, Throw C, Throw D - Throw A, Throw C, Throw E, Throw F To follow one of these paths, simply input the command the command for the next throw (whether it is Throw B, or C) while King is doing the Throw A. The next throw's input must be finished by the time the Throw A actually damages your opponent, if you didn't complete it by the time the Throw A hurts him/her King won't execute the next throw. If you did it correctly (and the opponent doesn't escape) when he finishes Throw A he will do the next throw. If you did Throw C, and you want to get to Throw D, then perform the Throw D's command while King is doing the Throw C, and he will do Throw D after finishing the C, and so on. You'll notice that you may have a lot of time, or little time to input the next throw in the path, depending solely in the current throw's animation. For instance the Standing Heel Hold gives a long time to follow it up with either the S.T.F, the Scorpion Death Lock or the Indian Death Lock, because the animation for Standing Heel Hold (before the throw hurts your opponent) is pretty long. On the other side, the Arm Breaker gives a much shorter time (but still long enough) to follow with Triple Arm Breaker, Chicken Wing or the Head Jammer. The most important thing about multis is: MIX ALL THE PATHS UP. I emphazise to not go for the longest or most damaging path all the time. If you do that, the opponent will catch on to that quickly and will escape the next throw in that path. So don't get blind by the potential 90 or 100+ dmg points you could deal from a given path, because if your opponent is any good, chances are that he knows already the escapes to that path, and WILL mash them if you try to get him there. If you're aware of that as well, you know it's better to get 45-50 dmg than it is to have just 20-25 from the first throw, then see your opponent escaping to his life. The only thing you can do about that, is to mix all the paths and be as random as possible, don't be greedy here, if you have to give up to the most damaging and coolest loking throws, give them up. It's the only way you have to reduce their chances of escaping. - Tips to enter multiple button sequences easier If you're worried to have to enter many button presses in little time, here's something that can help you to finish it quicker. Actually, you can buffer a button by holding it down if you require that button to be pressed for the next input in the sequence. This works most of the time, if that "next input" is the last input for the throw. Again, let me illustrate with an example: f,N,d,d/f+1+4 = 1+2,4,2+4 Here you have the commands for Arm Breaker and Head Jammer. If you grab your opponent with the Arm Breaker and then want to follow with Head Jammer, you can perform the Head Jammer's command as: press 1+2, press 4, press 2+4 or alternatively, you can do: press 1+2, press and hold 4, while holding 4 press 2 and the second form would get you the Head Jammer too. It helps to make it simpler, right? Pressing 4, pressing 2+4 has the same effect that holding 4, then pressing 2 as you're holding the 4! Thus you can buffer the 4 into the 2+4 easily. Here's another example: f,N,d,d/f+2+3 = 1+2,3,1,1+3 If you want to do the Scorpion Death Lock you can do it as: press 1+2, press 3, press 1, press 1+3, OR press 1+2, press 3, press and hold 1, while holding 1 press 3. It doesn't matter which one you do, both inputs count as the same. Now, see how button buffering is in action in a full multithrow here: d/f,d/f+2+4 (on crouching opponent) = 2,2,1+2 You know by now you can do press 2, press and hold 2, while holding 2 press 1, right? OK, moving on from that. = 2,2,1+2 = 1,2,3+4 Of course, as you can see, there's nothing that can be buffered here; if you do something like tap 1, tap and hold 2, while holding the 2 tap 3+4 you would be actually entering 1,2,2+3+4 which doesn't match the command required to the Powerbomb's command... Not all of the links have commands to allow buffers, but those that won't let you buffer buttons usually don't have a particularly hard button sequence to input either, or at least not in this case... = 1,2,3+4 = 3,1,2,3+4,1+2+3+4 Looks a bit more complicated, perhaps? But you can make it simpler: tap 3, tap 1, tap 2, tap and hold 3+4, while holding 3+4 tap 1+2 You can buffer more than one button, you can buffer up to three buttons if you have to enter all four buttons at once afterwards. If you have done the above sequence as King does the Powerbomb, then he should finish the multi with the Muscle Buster. It might still look a bit complicated to you, so if that's the case, make sure you practice it enough before trying it in an actual match. Only practice makes you better. Here's an example of something that, even if can be fully recognized as button buffering, it does NOT work in a multi: f,N,d,d/f+1+4 = 1+2,4,2+4 = 4,3,4,3+4,1+2 If you try the Arm Crucifixion as tap 4, tap 3, tap and hold 4, while holding down 4 tap 3, tap 1+2 It doesn't work, why? Well, do you remember I said "if that "next input" is the last input for the throw", right? In this case 3+4 is NOT the last input for the throw. I don't know why, but if it's not the last input, the game just ignores it. f,N,d,d/f+1+4 = 2,1+2,1+2+3 tap and hold 2, while holding 2 tap and hold 1, while holding 1+2 tap 3 Here you can apply button buffering two times in a row, because this link has such a command that allows you to do so. The logic behind it is that the 2 is required for all the first, second and last inputs of its command, so you can keep it held down the whole time. I don't know of other multithrow links that allow you to do so, not for King at least. Also, for some weird reason, you can enter it as 2,1,1+2+3 and it would still work. Here's another example of button buffering that won't work: f,N,d,d/f+1+4 = 2,1+2,1+2+3 = 1+3,3+4,2+4,1+2,1+2+3 Tap 1+3 (hold the 3), while holding the 3 tap and hold the 4, while holding 4 release 3 and press 2...this would never work. The only buffer you can apply here is tap and hold 1+2, then tap 3 for the two last inputs of the Rolling Death Cradle (RDC for short) command. The RDC looks, and is complicated, there is no other way to do it besides practicing it hard. Normally, to do RDC you use the right index and thumb fingers for 1+3 and 2+4, and the right index and middle fingers for 3+4 and 1+2. If you're playing the console version of T5, you can use the controller's shoulder buttons (by binding them like, L1 as 1+2 and L2 as 3+4, and R1 as 1+3 and R2 as 2+4) to make RDC A LOT easier. The main problem with shoulder buttons is that they're considered cheap so their use is banned from many Tekken tournaments. Since T4, it seems that you can actually mash all buttons in order to do some of the throw links, even though this does work sometimes, you'd get the next throw at random, and not always the one you desire. For instance if you do a f,N,d,d/f+2+3 if you mash 1, 2 and 3 afterwards you might get either the STF, the Scorpion or the Indian Death Lock at random. But I really avoid mashing buttons for two reasons: one, the throw you get afterwards seems determined by random, and two, mashing buttons generally damages the arcade or PS2 pad's buttons. You don't want buttons that don't work, right? Do yourself a favor and don't mash them. - If your opponent tries to escape: Feinting/faking throw links Eventually, if you use multithrows as an important part of your game, when you get better and face the better competition too, you will probably find some players who look at your hands when you're doing a multi. By know, most of the better players know already the escapes for King's most common and damaging paths. So if they look at your hands they get to know which link is the next throw in the chain you were doing, and then will press the throw's escape button. There are a few things you can do about that. The simplest one is to cover your hand with the free one you have (during a multithrow, you don't have to tap any direction on the joystick or pad at all, you only have to press the buttons, so one of your hands - usually the left one - should be free to do whatever you want with it), or your shoulder, or maybe the baseball cap you wear, etc. Just cover the required hand so that they don't see which buttons you're pressing. Another possibility is to mash buttons at random, by doing this you would get one of the following links at random, so neither you nor your opponent know which link will be done, but as I've explained earlier, mashing randomly the buttons really is not the best thing to do. Another, more elaborated and fancier (but sometimes really effective) thing you can do is to "feint" or "fake" some button press. When you're do a throw link, the first correct input done before the current throw ends, is counted as the next throw's input. Faking buttons is really useful in certain short multithrows like the Standing Heel Hold, for instance: f,N,d,d/f+2+3 = 1,2,3,1+2 = 1+2,3,1,1+3 = 1+2,1,3,1+2 1,2,3,1+2 is the input for the STF. The STF won't be done until that button sequence in particular is inputted. This applies to every link of every multithrow as well. But if you do: = 1+2,1,2,3,1+2 You will still get the STF. The 1+2 at the beginning of the sequence is ignored. You can do as much button presses as you want, the STF does not come out unless the last thing you've done was 1,2,3,1+2. In the case of 1+2,1,2,3,1+2 an opponent who was looking at your hands can be easily fooled into thinking you've done the Indian Death Lock, whose command is 1+2,1,3,1+2. As you can see, both inputs are very similar, except that in the first case you've pressed a 2 in between the 1 and the 3...that little detail does make a whole world of difference. The key here is to be as quick as possible so that the opponent has little or no time to see the difference. You know that jugglers don't really have magic, they only have really fast hands, right? Make the hand faster than the eye. But sometimes the opponents don't even have to look at your hands to tell what buttons you're pressing, they will simply hear the sound of the buttons being pressed. Again, faking buttons is an effective way to conceal the link you are trying to do (the other is to get and use a silent custom stick but this would be possible only if you're playing the PS2 version). For instance: (opponent in midair) d+1+3 or d+2+4 = 1+2,1+2 = 2,1,3,4 One of the links sounds like two button presses, whereas the other one sounds like four button presses, so if they hear from you four button presses, it's fair to tell you've done 2,1,3,4 right? Maybe at first glance, but not really, if you simply do Flap Jack as 1+2,1+2,1+2,1+2 or 2,1,1+2,1+2 or even something like 3+4,4,1+2,1+2, it also sounds like four button presses...If you get used to do Flap Jack this way, and you cover your hands as well, chances are this time your opponent has frankly no idea on what you were doing, and has no way, shape or form to know it altogether. OK, those are all ways to help you get more links and reduce their chance of escaping out of them. But you also have the option of not finishing the multi and just get two or three links done, too. How is that useful? Well, if your opponent has little energy left, you would finish him with the next throw in the path, but you can also stop there and kick him with a d+3+4 in the floor or refloat him with f+3 and a juggle if he tries to get up. Generally, this is the smartest thing to do, as your opponent could escape alive from the next link and then comeback with a strong juggle or something. This - escaping from apparent death to later rise as the fight's winner - happens a lot in Tekken, more times than I could possibly remember. Remember, the most important thing with multithrows is to mix all options up and be as unpredictable as possible. The weaker throws are there for a reason, so use them too. And if your opponent escapes out of any multithrow don't give it up, sure it was pure random luck; he won't have such luck every time. Also, remember that King has many other sources to deal good damage, not just the multithrows - simply consider them only as part of your arsenal of moves. The primary mixup ----------------- King's primary mixup usually has him with the frame advantage (at least +5) over his opponent, at range 0-1 (jab range). You want to keep him here, mixing up mids and throws; grabs are so fast that they can't be ducked on reaction, and fast mid attacks like d/f+1>2 need to be blocked standing. d/f+1>2 itself is a good poke, but it's main purpose is to keep them standing with minimal risk, if any at all. This is how King plays at high levels. In a nutshell, King's primary mixup after +5 advantage: b+1 - Beats jabs and all attacks that don't crush highs d/f+1>2 - CANNOT BE CRUSHED, hits duckers, but may lose to 8-frame jabs Requires at least +7 frames to be uninterruptable throws - Defeat their standing guard, but can be crushed like all highs GS and iSW are for long range MB (QCB+1+2) and TS (d/b,f+2) can be used within short range Standard basic throws are OK. Let's see a basic example off 2,1. your 2,1 hits, you do: - b+1 if opponent tries to jab you - d/f+1>2 if opponent ducks or d+1 (or any high crush) anticipating b+1_throw - throw if opponent keeps standing (most likely GS but you can use others too) Primary mixup is 99.9% of the time available after: 1 or 2 hit 1,2 hit 2,1 hit 1,2,1 (if third hit connects) d/f+1>2 hit WS+1 hit (b+1 trades hit with 8-framers) WS+4 close hit b+1 regular hit f+2 hit f+2,2 hit f+1+4 hit f+3 hit f,f,N+1+2 hit JGS 2 hit f,f+3+4 blocked (rare) JGS 4 blocked (rare) Aditionally, a good part of King's inside game comes from jabbing with 1,2. your 1,2 hits: - b+1 if opponent tries to jab you - d/f+1>2 if opponent ducks or d+1 (or any high crush) - throw if opponent keeps standing Basically the same options after 2,1 huh? This is a basic example, but there are more options if you look deeper (into the options off 1,2,1 string) 1,2,2+4 1,2, buffered GS 1,2, d/f+1>2 (preferably if 1,2 hits - if opponent ducks after it) 1,2>1 (if last hit is CH -> free 2,1) 1,2>1,2+4 1,2>1,1,2 (if they duck after 1,2>1 - riskiest option, jab punishable) 1,2, SS (evades 8-frame jab or basically any counterattack if 1,2 is blocked) Side note, the first 5 hits of his tenstring (1,2>1,1,2 as I put there) can be used to a little degree: - Opponents cannot interrupt between hits (except for Yoshimitsu's 1+4) - If they eat 3rd hit on CH, 4th and 5th hits are guaranteed - 4th and 5th hits are jail - if they block the 4th, they cannot reverse/parry or duck under the 5th hit; if they eat 4th hit, 5th hit is guaranteed - 5th hit is -11 on block, 0 on hit (according to last T4 frame data). But generally you shouldn't go beyond 1,2,1. Both options are risky and the third hit means disadvantage on block, so it's usually better to stop there. Poking helps a lot to King's game. Generally, any poke can be a throw setup, but there are few pokes that can setup ALL throws. Sometimes this doesn't only sets up King's primary mixup, it can be good for other mids (e.g hopkick), but these might be riskier. Crouch Dash mixup (AKA Secondary mixup) --------------------------------------- King has been blessed with a CD and some moves out of it. The CD allows you to go under a high move safely and get stuff in their recovery - that's pretty much CD's primary purpose. When facing pitbull-style characters, you'll learn to move forward through CD, as it protects King from things like 1,2, enemy grabs or those "magic" 4s. If they do - CD under their high, and punish! Among default King's CD moves, you have: CD+1+4 - Multithrow starter with 1 as break CD+2+3 - Multithrow starter with 2 as break CD+1+2 - The mid Black Bomb, semi-useful vs duckers, slow recovery CD+4 - Mid Dark Knee (punishable - try to not use this one) By entering any ub_u_uf+button move during your CD, you'll make that move come out of King's CD in a fairly smooth way. This is possible because the upward motions will cancel your crouch status whitout need to stand up. Which brings us to: CD,u/f+4 - Hopkick from CD, VERY useful vs duckers, decent interrupter CD,u/f,N+4 - Delayed hopkick, slower execution but stronger damage CD,u/f+1+2 - Capital punishment, jumps over lows, has long range and juggles CD,u/f+3 - Falling wheel kick, hits ground CD,u/b+1 - Water parting chop - small SSL evasion effect, tracks SSR CD, f will cancel the CD into a f,f dash; you can then do any standing move or throw. By doing f+button moves from crouch dash, you can perform a f,f style move. If you don't have a f,f move using the X button, you'll do the f+X button move instead. Note the brief pause between the CD itself and the f. CD, f+1 - Jaguar Straight from CD CD, f+2>1 - Rolling Elbow, Shadow Lariat combo from CD CD, f,N+1+2 - Offensive push from CD; on CH free b+3 or 1+2,1 at the wall CD, f+3:1+2 - Front Kick DDT from CD CD, f+4 - Konvict Kick from CD New to T5 King is the ability to perform the WS moves without using a b input at the apex of the CD to get them. Now you're able to perform the WS move by doing N (wait a split second without pressing/tapping directions) then press the corresponding button(s) for that move. It's just like doing a CD,N+4,4 (CD Tsunami Kicks) with Mishimas (assuming you ever played them, heh) CD,N+1 - CD into WS+1 basic uppercut CD,N+2 - CD into WS+2 uppercut CD,N+1+2 - CD into WS+1+2 European Uppercut CD,N+3 - CD into WS+3 Rising high spin kick CD,N+4 - CD into WS+4 Rising mid kick So how do you use this? While not being as effective as Mishimas, King's CD is useful on it's own way. For a start we have CD+1+4 CD+2+3 CD,u/f+4 for confussion. Standing opponents will be thrown by the multi starters, and CD,u/f+4 will hit the ducking ones for fair juggle damage and wakeup games. Of course, many characters can punish you if they do guess right. The u/f+4 also beats most moves if they try to interrupt the mixup. CD,N+1+2 CD,u/f+4 European Uppercut is very useful to launch opponents after you successfully duck their high attacks (Bryan's f,f+2, Hwoarang's 4,4 strings, Anna's QCF+1 elbow, you name them - CD under those, and punish). Same is true of u/f+4. CD, f,N+1+2 CD, f+3(,1+2) CD,N+4 More mids add spice to your guessing game. f,f,N+1+2 gives frames on block, which is always good, and is less telegraphed when done out of CD. f+3's range is in the short side, but comes out faster than other moves. WS+4 is quick, safe and has good reach so it's probably King's best CD option by default. CD,u/f+1+2 CD,u/f+3 These are sort of situation dependant. u/f+1+2 has pretty good reach, u/f+3 has unusual priority and hits ground. Both moves jump over lows nicely, and are part of King's okizeme. I sometimes do CD,u/f+1+2 when I notice my opp has a trend to interrupt CD mixups with d+1/d+2/d+4 or low pokes in general, and I have been fairly successful at jumping over their lows and earning a good u/f+1+2 juggle. The u/f+3 is a handy move against certain characters (Xiaoyu and her whack AOP~d ducking, along with stupid PLD Leis come to mind) CD, f, any move Nice, by doing the CD alone you're not commiting into doing a move, and if they try to interrupt your King stuff, you are free to react. Good moves here are probably the b+1, the d/f+1>2 and a 1+2-break throw like the QCB+1+2. You can make a CD mixup which emphazises on damage, or one that is safe. For safety you can use: CD,WS+4 CD,WS+1+2 CD+1+4/CD+2+3 (not really safe considering they can be ducked, but without them, there's no mixup) King doesn't have the Mishima wavedash, but he DOES have the snakedash. If you can snakedash with Mishimas, you can do the same with King, and if you can't, practice. f,N,d,d/f, f,SS, f,N,d,d/f, f,SS, f,N,d,d/f, f,SS... Snakedash will bring SS evasion and SS moves into the equation, too. Again, the fact you don't have the (E)WGF move doesn't mean you cannot mixup like the Mishimas. I'm not saying you should try to go toe to toe with them, 'cause you CAN'T (E/WGF being a good reason), but maybe against non-Mishimas. While a Mishima can wavedash and interrupt with E/WGF if opponents get cocky, King's CD mixups should be set up with intense poking game and the ocassional advantage, either when opponent is grounded, or by backdashing out of an enemy attack; that way opponents don't have time to interrupt the mixup. FC mixup -------- These are King's options out of the full crouch position: FC,d/b,d,d/b+1+2: The Rock Bottom throw FC,d/b, stand up, f+2: The Tombstone done in an ugly way WS+1+3/WS+2+4: Not so obvious, these are King's basic throws from FC. Another way to execute these from crouch is simply FC,d/f+1+3 or FC,d/f+2+4. FC+1,N+2: King's fastest move from full crouch FC+3/FC+4: Generic low kicks from FC, common for most characters WS+4: Basic rising mid kick, your safest bet from FC. Decent damage WS+1+2: Slow mid launcher, short range, safe on block FC,d/f+2: Another mid launcher, good reach but slow recovery FC,d/f+1: The low leg breaker, goes under highs but has very slow startup FC,u/f+4: You can hopkick from FC too. Fine, King is not Bryan you might say, but he still has some very good moves from FC including some launchers. I personally use those moves off FC -not too hard to see why: WS+1+2 (after ducking most highs, this is a good retaliation) FC,d/f+2 (has longer range than WS+1+2) WS+4 (if I want to get out of FC safely - sometimes this is all you can get) FC+4 (low poke for tick damage, best mixed with WS+4) FC+1,N+2 (if they want to poke King out of moves; it will stop highs cold) WS+1+3 (mixed w/ Rock Bottom to prevent broken grabs; comes out just as fast) b+1+2 followups --------------- b+1+2 is one of King's best grabs once you have trapped them against the wall. By mixing the b+1+2 alone, the b+1+2 linked to 1+3 and a mid move, you have a pretty good guessing game. If there are no walls around, you can mix the 1+3 with the 2+4 links since a b+1+2~2+4 also gives you free followups, no walls needed. b+1+2 itself into the wall gives free b+3 for 21 damage and oki, although even if they're at the wall, they can still break the throw. b+1+2~1+3 gives King free stuff. No walls behind them: - f,b+1 (easy) - f,f,N+1,2 - iSW (vs bigs) Walls behind them: - free throw attempt including another b+1+2 - b+1 (fairly unreliable, sometimes goes through opponent for no reason) - d/f+2 (wall splat? d+3+4 afterwards seems guaranteed.) - 2,1 b+1+2~2+4 also has guaranteed followups: FC,d/f+1 f,f+2+3 u/f+2+4 (do it as soon as possible) run up, ground throw (do it fast) Note that you get the b+1+2~2+4 followups only if the wall is NOT right behind King's back. In that case, you'll throw them into the wall and they'll recover faster than normal for some reason, preventing any ground hit from happening. b+1+2~3+4 gives a free ground throw mixup, or free d+1+2. However, it's the most dangerous option from b+1+2 because, should they break your throw, they will be rewarded with a free power move or launcher on your back. b+1+2,1+2 mixups ---------------- As most people know by now, this throw will leave the opponent backturned and right in front of King, at a small disadvantage (+5 frames for King). At this point you can do d+2 (which is guaranteed) or stick with the mixups described as follows: - free d+2 : if you do this as soon as possible, they cannot turn around and block the move in time, and if they attempt any BT move, then the d+2 will be a CH. Only Xiaoyu in this situation could low parry your d+2 with her special RDS low parry (then again you shouldn't be doing b+1+2,1+2 on her), but since such option is unique to Xiaoyu, other characters can't do anything about it. After hitting with d+2, it's possible that they still remain backturned; if it happens, it's a guaranteed WS+4 before they can block again, but this WS+4 can be avoided if they do BT 1+3_2+4 right after the b+1+2,1+2 throw (they will turn around and the d+2 still hits them, but now they are facing forwards and therefore they'll be able to block the WS+4 or whatever you may do) - d/f+1,2 : the only way for them to avoid this is by doing a BT 1_2 or BT d+1 jab which will interrupt King if done correctly. Again they can attempt BT 1+3 or 2+4, but this won't do any good for them, since d/f+1,2 still connects on their front as a natural combo. - duck, then WS+1+2 : this is what you do if they try the aforementioned BT 1 or BT d+1 to jab you out of d/f+1,2. Basically, you duck and wait for their move, so doing the WS+1+2 is actually optional and will most likely depend on their response. The BT 1_2 is 8 frames, but has a much longer recovery than a regular 8 frame jab from normal facing forward stance, so if you duck under it you should have no problem in punishing with WS+1+2 afterwards. If they do a BT d+1 low jab (which is low) or a low BT d+3_d+4 shin kick, you should be able to low parry them and get a free u/f+4 juggle, and if they do BT u/f+4 (which is the only generic BT mid that could be a threat) they might very well whiff because the BT hopkick has such a poor range and you practically have to walk into it for them to really hit you. Other less useful options at this point are: - b,f+1+2 : It's quite rare to get a backthrow in this situation because most players automatically duck when they get BT'ed, as no one in their right mind would want to risk eating this. However, if for some reason the opponent is dumb enough and holds back or forward to turn around, b,f+1+2 will connect as long as it's done inmediately after b+1+2,1+2. The backthrow is actually your most useless and riskiest option as it's very easy to duck and then punish King's whiff with a generic BT u/f+4 afterwards. - b+1+3_b+2+4 : Not as useless as the above, but perhaps just as risky. Some players once getting BT'ed might try to mash BT moves as soon as possible in the hopes of knocking King out of moves or a backthrow attempt. This is quite stupid though, since he has the frame advantage for about +5 or so which is more than enough to wait a split second and reverse them. Not bad, but it's much better to just duck basic BT 1_2_3_4 and low parry possible lows like BT d+1 or d+4, since you'll get a launch if they do any of these options, not to mention that it's safer since ducking alone doesn't commit into whiffing moves as you do when you attempt a reversal. BT u/f+4 is a mid but as I mentioned earlier, it's very likely to whiff on crouching characters (specially if they are crouchwalking backwards) All of these b+1+2,1+2 mixups should be really avoided against: Xiaoyu (she can parry from BT stance or even go to AOP and launch you, between other options) Raven (he has his Backbared punch reversal from BT, among other BT moves) Lei (he can drop to the floor and you would whiff) Nina (her BT 2,2,3 which is the same as her facing forward 1,2,3 could get you into trouble) If you can, use other options from b+1+2 (like b+1+2~1+3 or b+1+2~2+4) on the above mentioned characters. - against Steve: Oddly enough, Steve doesn't have the BT u/f+4 which is available to all other characters. This means you can actually attempt a backthrow with less risk of being launched, unless he turns around while remaining in FC somehow, but I don't think it can be done - AFAIK, if you attempt this you will stand up for a brief period before crouching again, hence if Steve does this he probably might eat the backthrow during that split second. I need to test and verify if this is possible though. Irregardless of the above, he can still do BT d+1 to crush a b,f+1+2 backthrow attempt. Low parry followups ------------------- Given that many sweeps will guarantee you a launcher on block, there are still many "safe" lows that must be punished via low parry. Everyone's d+4 is a good example. Now there's more of a window to punish a parried low punch (the frame advantage seems to be +16 after parrying a low punch and +18 after a low kick) Luckily, King has good punishment after a low parry, including a launcher. King's possible followups after low parry are: * u/f+4 to juggle * f+3:1+2 * d/f+1,2 * after parried low kick: 1+2,1 (good choice if opponent's back is next to walls; 1+2,1 (w!) f+2+3 68 dmg) * low grab mixup: d+1+3 (break 1) d+2+4 (break 2) * low multigrab mixup: (d/f),d/f+1+3 (break 1) (d/f),d/f+2+4 (break 2) Keep in mind that the first d/f is automatically buffered off low parry. What to use is up to you. Needless to say the best option should be u/f+4 to juggle, but sometimes you have to discard the hopkick, as it has short reach and you are bound to whiff after parrying low kicks from some characters like Feng (his SS+4 is a good example). You could solve this by realigning your character with opponent (press ~f after parrying, then u/f+4), but this takes practice and may still whiff on ocassion. In that case, moves like 1+2,1 seem a better option afterwards. Reversals --------- A lot of people ignore completely King's reversals. They might seem somewhat scrubby for some, or totally useless for others. But on the hands of a skilled player, both of them can turn the tide of the match in King's favor. They do good damage, they give you momentum to breath if you're under pressure, they give you free okizeme and they are totally unchickenable unlike the standard reversals, so why ignore them? If you really want to take advantage of King's unchickenable reversals to the fullest, you must be able to see and read slow moves in the earlier frames of their animation. For instance, lots of characters possess slow jumping u/f+4s which recover safely on block, and as such they are fairly safe even on whiff, a few examples being Bryan's (crushes lows very well, doesn't give frames on block at all, it's hard to punish even on whiff and gives him crazy juggles), Yoshi's, Christie's. These moves are good to crush lows, they are safe and unpunishable for the most part, BUT THEY ARE SLOW. So what if that Bryan's u/f+4 juggles on hit and is safe on block? It's still slow. Mind you, most of the good players can easily see a slow low sweep like Jin's f,N,d,d/f+4 and low parry it everytime, guaranteed, because the move is too slow for them and they can easily read it as if they were watching in slow motion. If they can read Jin's sweep which does juggle on hit, who can say you can't read Bryan's u/f+4 and reverse it? Another common use of reversals is to cut down various strings (10-hit strings come to mind) that have a break point in the middle of them, or most non-jail strings (a jail string is a string in which you are forced to block all hits if you blocked the first one). Things like, Kazuya's WS+1,2 where the second hit is a right mid punch. True, you can get some jab punishment for free after blocking the 2, however it's much better to see the 2 (and I mean see the 2, because Kaz could easily stop at the WS+1 and you would whiff) and reverse it for more damage and free oki. Before attempting reversals however, make sure that you can see and read the moves you're trying to reverse, otherwise your reversal attempt will whiff and that could be the end of the round. Also, make sure that the reversal damage is worth the effort, example: Law's d+2,3 you can reverse the 3 if you blocked the d+2, but King can deal much more damage simply by blocking the 3 and doing u/f+4 for a juggle, therefore the smartest option is just to wait for the 3 to come out, block and then punish it. And, first of all, make sure that the move you're trying to reverse CAN BE REVERSED! This sounds dead obvious, but it had to be said; most (but not all) knee and elbow attacks along with a few select punch and kick moves, like d+1 or WR+3, cannot be reversed; neither can be the 99% of throws in the game; so if you go around trying to catch the opponents' moves, if they know this, they will give you what you deserve. Moral of the story: If a move is safe on block but is still pretty slow and/or readable on execution you shouldn't leave it unpunished; no matter if it hits low, high, middle or whatever. King has the standard low parry to counter lows AND THE REVERSALS to counter most of what is high/mid except for left punches and some unreversable moves. Some obvious spots to reverse hits in strings are (in square brackets): Anna's d/f+1,2,[3_4] Hwoarang's d/f+3,[3_4] Jin's 1,2,[3_4] Kazuya/Devil Jin's WS+1,[2] Paul's and Hei's d+1,[2] Christie's b+4,[4] Jack-5/Kuma's D/F+1,[2],1,[2] Kuma's 1+2,[1+2],[1+2] Law's 4,[u+3] etc. Okizeme ------- Before I continue, there are some moves that still have guaranteed followups, these are: d/b+4 -> u/f+3 f,f+1 -> FC,d/f+3 or d+3+4 f+1+2 -> BT 3 or u/f+3_d/b+3_d/b+4_ground throw (depends on positioning) f+1+2* -> d/b+3 b+2+4 reversals -> ground throws, u/f+3, FC,df+1 b+1+3 reversal -> d+3+4 b,f+1+2 backthrow -> u/f+3, dash ground throw b+1+2~3+4 -> u/f+3, dash ground throw b+1+2~2+4 -> f,f+2+3, u/f+2+4, FC,d/f+1 or u/b~u~u/f+1+2 if done ASAP Left sidethrow -> same as above Right sidethrow -> d/b+4, u/f+3, d+1+2 (on big characters) QCB+1+2 throw -> BT+3 (on big characters) left sidethrow -> u/f+1+2 Normally, King's options (in order of preference) when it comes to oki are: * For backrollers: - f,f+2~1 pickup: Works better up close. The reason this works on backrollers and it isn't a standard pickup, is the slow speed on the f,f+2. A plus is that if they stay down your f,f+2~1 whiffs but the 1 makes King "walk" over them, hence being safe even on whiff. - u/f+1+2: Can work in almost any situation, even if you're in FC. Slow, but can jump over low sweeps. However wakeup mid kick (which can be done out of backroll) may beat it if you're not careful. - f+2+3: Also good against backroll, but usually misses when your opponent starts the backroll from a face down position. f+2+3 can also work if your opponent does sideroll into backroll, simply wait for their sideroll and chase them with a SS, then bust f+2+3 to nail them while backrolling. - JGS 4/JGS d/f+4 * For people doing cross chop/hand spring/wakeup kicks: - u/f+3 usually beats any wakeup kick, and crushes the KND d+3_4 "lightning" ankle kick. - Black Bomb beats both wakeup kicks and hand spring for a CH juggle. - For the cross chop they need to backroll or roll forwards first (it is also possible to do cross chop from face down/head towards but it requires roll forwards first), so you can do u/f+1+2, f,f+2~1, f+2+3 etc. as explained above against backrollers. Avoid using u/f+1+2 on people rolling forwards as King jumps over them and whiffs especially from close. - For the wakeup kicks, you can also wait for them and parry the low sweep and ankle kicks or reverse the rising mid kick (King can also reverse the ankle kick despite the fact it is a low). Even if you don't feel like low parrying or reversing them (and I don't know why), you can punish them pretty bad on block; blocked low sweep/ankle kick is almost always a free WS+1+2, and the mid kick gives you free b+3/b+4/f+4 on block. - For the b,b+3+4 (hand spring), u/f+3 from close or f,f+2+3 from a distance are fine choices because they will beat their handspring attempt, usually scoring a CH to boot. * For siderollers: - Ground throw mixup: Ground grabs can track siderolling opponents up close - d+1+2: Sometimes it tracks a sideroll to King's left. Doesn't seem to work that reliable though. - f,f+2+3: Can work from some distance. - SS with them and d+3+4,2, u/f+3, f+2+3 etc. * For people laying grounded: - d+3 (on bigs): It comes fast enough. The chances of them escaping a hit are thin, if not zero. d+3 recovers OK afterwards, much faster than d+3+4. - u/f+3: Solid and safe, even if they manage to stand up and block the kick. - ground throw mixup (dash first if needed) - f,f+2+3: Can be used if you are at some distance away from opponent. - u/f+1+2 (on bigs): Usually too slow to score a hit. But it's safe if blocked * For quickrisers: - d/f+1,2/throw mixup - f+3 or f,f+3 pickup (standard post f+3 juggles: f+3, 1, f+2,2,2 etc.) - iWS+4 pickup (standard juggle: WS+4, d+3+4,2) - d+3+4,2 pickup * For techrollers: - JGS 2 or f,f+2: not meant to hit the opponent but to put him under lockdown where you can pressure them. Additionally, you can mix JGS 2 with JGS 1+4 or JGS 2+3 multithrow starters. - 1+4 after specific juggles: See Tech traps. - Tech traps: See Tech traps. * Post throw okizeme: Just as in Tekken 4, you don't have a lot of chances for free ground hits; a lot of the time, it's more of a guessing game depending on your opponent's position and what he/she does. To deal the most damage in wakeup games, you need to know/guess how will they recover. After most of King's throws the opponent is left in PLD position, or face up, head towards King. This means he can get f+2+4 backthrow on people trying to backroll. Otherwise you can mixup with d/f+1,2 if they quickrise, or standard ground hit options if they choose to stay there. If they are big characters, you can actually get a free d+4. These are: 1+3 2+4 1+3 airthrow 1,2>1,2+4 (opponent recovers VERY fast - d+4 not guaranteed on bigs) d/b,f+2 Right punch reversal Some other throws will leave them face up, their side towards King. In this position you have the same guessing game of the previous case, but with the advantage of earning a free df+4 (more damaging than d+4) on big characters. These are: (WR_f,f,f)+2+4 FC,d/b,d,d/b+1+2 1,2,2+4 f+3,1+2 CH f,f+4 Standard 1+3 and 2+4 backthrows There are a few throws that will leave them in standard knockdown position. There is very little you can do after this, because the opponent can quickrise and block almost instantaneously (in previous cases they might get hit in the process). You get to treat them as if they were standing; it basically means run up and mix d/f+1,2 with throws. Sometimes you might even get a CD mixup if you are lucky. These are: d/b+1+2 -> free d+4 on bigs d/f+2+3 d+1+3 crouch throw King's f+3 hits grounded Kuma & Panda face down. CH JGS 2, f+3 combos on them. In any case, I want to stress that you do NOT want to use d+3+4 as the default ground shot anymore; the risk of it being blocked by quickrise~d/b sometimes is big, and the rewards on hit aren't that great...The only time you should be doing d+3+4 is when you do d+3+4,2 as a juggle ender. If you want a safe groundhitter, u/f+3 and d/b+4 are much better. u/f+3 is your best bet as it hits mid (meaning they can't lowparry it as they can do with d/b+4) and beats the rising mid kicks and sweeps from grounded positions most of the time. Tracking stuff -------------- For those who say King is a linear character. It's true: King doesn't kill a sidestepping opponent like Hwoarang's RFF 3~4 does, but he can still stop SSers. Remember that a SSR here means the opponent is trying to SS to his right side (King's left side). f+1+4 (tracks both sides) short range b+1+2 (tracks both sides) short range d/f+2 (tracks both sides) short range [CD,]WS+1+2 (tracks both sides) *** d/f+4 (tracks SSL) short range f,f,N+1+2 (tracks SSL) short range d/f+3[,4] (tracks SSR) short to mid range d/b+3 (tracks SSR, not very reliable) f+4 (tracks SSR, not very reliable) f+1+2 (tracks SSR) long range WS+3 (tracks SSR) handy from FC/CD, but risky if blocked or ducked u/b+1 (tracks SSR) good range but risky on block, can be done from FC/CD SSR+2 (tracks SSL) *** standing 4 (tracks SSL) CD+4 (tracks SSL? not confirmed) JGS d/f+4 (tracks both sides - very slow) JGS 4 (same as above) If given the choice I'd recommend d/f+3 against SSR and basic 4 to stop SSL. Additionally, f+4 and f+1+2 are good choices too. If you were crouchdashing, WS+1+2 is a very good choice as it follows well both sides, plus is safe on guard. If your opponent tries to get your right by SSL'ing, then you are in a bit of trouble because this is King's weakest side. Standing 4 does cover your right, but it's a high and as such, can be ducked or crushed. It means you're going to turtle more and try to catch him with a CH 4 or simply wait to see and block his stuff. +------------------------+ | T5 King Combos/Juggles | +------------------------+ (w!): wall splat GS: Giant Swing motion (f,HCF+1) iSW: instant Shining Wizard motion (f,f,f+2+4) All these combos have been found by the majority of the players in the TZ T5 King board (including me. :) Thanks to each one of them. NOTES: Damage for combos starting with FC,d/f+2 is valid only for Tekken 5.0, which is the console version of the game. For Tekken 5.1 which most arcades have, the FC,d/f+2 combos will deal 2 points less. There are several combos ending with the d/b+(1+3_2+4), which is a breakable ground throw. Despite this fact, the ground grab is still part of the combo, because if the opponent breaks this ground throw, you get free f,f,f+2+4 (iSW) on their back for a backthrow, or an easier-to-do b+3 for another wall splat. Difficulty varies from 1 (very easy) to 3 (medium) to 5 (very hard). This is based purely in my humble opinion, so it's a quite subjective issue. But I do think that it gives a good idea on how difficult is the juggle to land. In general, character sizes in Tekken 5 go as follows (from small to large): - all female characters, Wang and Roger Jr. - male characters (except Wang, King and bigs) - King, Ganryu - Kuma/Panda, Jack-5 - Marduk (he doesn't eat u/f+1+2 when grounded though) Standard combos/juggles (& wall combos starting from standard juggles): ----------------------- Combo/Juggle Dmg Diff. CH f,f,N+1+2, b+1 13 1 CH f,f,N+1+2, b+3 23 1 CH f,f,N+1+2, b+3 (w!), f+2+3 52 1 u/f+4, f+2,2, 2, f+2+4 50 2 u/f+4, f+2,2, f,N,d~d/f,N+4, d+3+4,2 50 3 u/f+4, f+1,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 51 2 u/f+4, 2,1, f,f,N+1,2, f+2+4 51 3 u/f+4, 2,1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, 1+2,1 51 4 u/f+4, f+1,2, f+2,2, d+3+4,2 52 2 u/f+4, f+2, 1, f+2,2,2 52 1 u/f+4, f+2,2, 1, f,f+3, d+3+4,2 52 3 u/f+4, b+1, f+1, f+2,2,2 52 1 u/f+4, 2,1, f+2,2,2 53 1 u/f+4, b+1, f+1, f+2,2, d+3+4,2 53 3 u/f+4, f,F+3, 1, f+2,2,2 53 3 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, b+3 54 1 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1, 1+2,1 55 2 u/f+4, b+1, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d+1,N+2 (w!), d+1+2 58 4 u/f+4, 2, f+2,2, GS 59 3 u/f+4, f+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 59 5 u/f+4, 2,1, f,f,N+1,2, GS 60 3 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, GS 60 4 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1, iSW 63 3 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 66 4 u/f+4, f+2,2, 2, f,f,N+1, iSW 67 4 u/f+4, 2, f+2,2, 1, iSW 68 4 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 69 4 u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, iSW 71 5 u/f+4, 2,1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 (w!), f,f+2,1 76 5 u/f+4, f+3, 1, 1+2,1 (w!), f,f,d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) (breakable) 80 5 u/f+4, f+3, f+2,2,2 (male chars) 50 2 u/f+4, 2,1, f+1+2, d+2+4 (male chars) 50 4 u/f+4, f+3, f+2,2, f,f~d/f+1,2 (male chars) 53 3 u/f+4, f+1+2, f+3, GS (male chars) 61 5 u/f+4, f+3, f+2,2, GS (male chars) 63 4 u/f+4, f+3, f+1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW (male chars) 72 5 u/f+4, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 (w!), SSR, f,N,d~d/f+1+2 (males) 75 4 u/f+4, f+3, f+2, 1, f+2+4 (Jack-5) 50 3 u/f+4, f+3, b+1, 1,2, b+3 (Marduk - unreliable) 52 4 u/f+4, f+1+4, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (Kuma/Jack-5) 50 3 u/f+4, f+2,2, 1,2, f+2+4 (Kuma/Jack-5) 55 3 u/f+4, f+3, f,F+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW (Kuma/Jack-5) 73 5 u/f+4, f+3, f+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW (Kuma/Jack-5) 75 5 u/f,N+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, b+3 63 1 u/f,N+4, f+2,2, f+1, 1+2,1 64 2 u/f,N+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, iSW 83 5 u/f,N+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 (Marduk) 68 3 u/f,d+4, f+2,2, 1, 1+2,1 64 2 u/f,d+4, f+2,2, 1, iSW 75 4 WS+1+2, b+1, 1, f+2,2,2 55 1 WS+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, b+3 57 1 WS+1+2, f+2,2, f+1, 1+2,1 58 2 WS+1+2, f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 58 4 WS+1+2, f+2,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 70 4 WS+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, iSW 76 5 WS+1+2, f+1+4, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (Jack-5) 55 2 WS+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 (Marduk) 61 3 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, u+2+4 57 1 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f,N,d,d/f+4 (clean) 58 4 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+1+2, d+2+4 62 4 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+1+2, f+3, d+3+4,2 69 4 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, 2,1, f+2,2,2 71 1 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, 2,1, f,f,N+1,2, f+2+4 71 3 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f,F+3, 1,2, b+1, d+3+4,2 71 3 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, b+3 72 1 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+2,2, f+1, 1+2,1 73 2 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f,F+3, 1, f+2,2,2 73 3 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, iSW 91 5 CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2, f+2,2, f+1,2, f+2+4 (Marduk) 76 4 CH b+1, F+1,2, f+2,2,2 52 1 CH b+1, f+2, 1, f+2,2,2 52 2 CH b+1, f,F+3, 1,2, f+2+4 52 1 CH b+1, f,F+3, 1, f+2,2,2 53 3 CH b+1, f+2,2, f+1, 1+2,1 53 3 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, d/f+1,2 54 4 CH b+1, SSR, f+2,2, 1,2, iSW 72 4 CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW 70 4 CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, 1, iSW 74 5 CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, iSW (male chars) 77 5 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, d+2+4 (Jack-5) 53 3 CH b+1, F+1+2* (Kuma) 50 2 CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, d/f+1,2 (Kuma) 54 4 CH b+1, f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (Kuma) 55 4 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1,2, b+3 (Marduk) 62 3 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1,2, f+2+4 (Marduk) 66 4 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW (Marduk) 80 5 CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1,2, iSW (Marduk) 81 5 FC,d/f+2, [f,f,] d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) (breakable) 55 2 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1,2, f+2+4 60 1 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1,2, b+1, d+3+4,2 (a bit unreliable from 2P side) 61 3 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f+2,2,2 63 1 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2, GS 70 3 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 77 5 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1,2, f,f,N+1, iSW 78 4 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW 78 4 FC,d/f+2, f+3, f+1, f,f,f+1,2, iSW (male chars) 80 5 FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 (w!), u/f+1+2 (Marduk) 90 5 FC,d/f+2, 1,2, f+2,2,2 (Kuma/Jack-5) 60 1 FC,d/f+2, f+1,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, iSW (Jack-5/Kuma) 71 4 FC,d/f+2, f+1,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW (Jack-5/Kuma) 74 5 FC,d/f+2, f+1,2, f,f,N+1,2, iSW (Jack-5/Kuma) 75 5 u/f+1+2, d+2, WS+2 50 2 u/f+1+2, d+2, FC+3+4,2 50 2 u/f+1+2, iWS+4, d+3+4,2 (female chars) 59 3 u/f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (more reliable on male chars) 61 2 u/f+1+2, d/f+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (Marduk) 66 2 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1,2, f+2+4 79 2 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1, f+2,2,2 82 2 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1,2, GS 86 3 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW 97 4 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 2, f+2,2,2 (Marduk) 84 2 CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N,f+1,2, iSW (Marduk) 100 5 FC,d/f+1, WS+4, d+3+4,2 45 1 FC,d/f+1, WS,f+1, 1,2, b+3 50 3 FC,d/f+1, WS,f+1, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (male chars) 52 3 FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f+2,2,2 62 4 FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW 75 5 FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW 76 5 FC,d/f+1, WS+1, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (Jack-5) 52 2 CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2 44 1 CH d/b+3, WS+4, d/f+1,2 (male chars, unreliable) 47 2 CH d/b+3, FC,d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) (breakable) 48 2 CH BT 3, d+1+2 32 1 CH BT 3, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 44 3 CH BT 3, f,f+3, 1, f+2,2,2 58 3 CH BT 3, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, iSW 64 4 CH 4, b+1, d+3+4,2 43 1 CH 4, iSW 54 3 CH 4, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f+2,2,2 56 4 CH 4, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW (King) 70 5 CH 4, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, iSW 71 5 CH 4, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, d+2+4 54 5 f+1+2, BT 3 (angle reliant) 35? 2 f+1+2, BT d+4 (Kuma, angle reliant) 33 2 CH JGS 2, f+3 (Kuma) 38 1 CH f,f+2,1, d+4 (Kuma) 53 1 CH b+2*, d/b+3 53 2 CH b+2*, u+2 54 2 Opponent BT, u/f+4, 1,2, f+2,2,2 50 4 Opponent BT, FC,d/f+2, f+1, f+2,2,2 53 4 FCD clean 3, WS+4, d+3+4,2 34 1 The CH b+2* combos can be escaped by quick backroll (~b right after being hit) in Tekken 5.1, and some of them can be avoided even with ~f in Tekken 5.0 Aside from the many character specific combos already listed, there are a few juggles that will not work on some big characters (mainly Kuma/Panda - keep in mind that the bears are not as easy to land juggles on as other characters): - u/f+1+2, d/f+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 (on Marduk) For some reason, this doesn't seem to work if the u/f+1+2 is a CH (but you can still land any CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1_2 juggle on him). Also, no matter if u/f+1+2 is a CH or not, the u/f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 juggle doesn't work on him (the 2 in d/f+1,2 misses everytime) - CH u/f+1+2, f+3, 1, ... This doesn't work on Kuma/Panda (but you can still land CH u/f+1+2, d/f+1,2, d+3+4,2 instead against them) - FC,d/f+2, f+3 ... Doesn't work on Kuma/Panda and Jack-5 (you must use FC,d/f+2, f+1 instead). If possible, use other launchers such as WS+1+2 against bigs - CH d/b+3, WS+4 ... Doesn't work on Jack-5 or Kuma/Panda; use CH d/b+3, FC+3+4,2 or CH d/b+3, FC+3+4,4,4 on them. Or better, use a ground throw mixup instead The current King's staple juggles are: - high launch, f+2,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, iSW - low launch, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, iSW - CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2 High launchers are u/f+4 and u/f,N+4 hopkicks, WS+1+2 and CH f,N,d,d/f+1+2. Low launchers are CH u/f+1+2, CH BT 3, and FC,d/f+2 (also FC,d/f+1, but you must do a crouch cancel to hit f+3). The CH d/b+3 one is pretty much the best you can do off this launcher in terms of guaranteed juggles (you can also ground throw after CH d/b+3). u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1, f,f,N+1, iSW - main staple for 66 dmg, works reliably on all characters and from all high launches, you can add another f,f,N+1 jab for extra 3 points before the iSW ender but that makes it even harder to land. With King, you're bound to master those multiple dash jabs as well as the iSW ender, simply because King's left jab is the best way he has to extend the juggle, and the iSW (Running Powerbomb, max damage version) is his best combo ender, it does the most damage, brings opponent close to walls and leaves you in good position for okizeme. If you can't land the iSW yet, stick to the GS command instead, but practice your iSW skills in the meanwhile so that you can get the best damage from your launches. u/f+4, 2,1, f+1+2, d+2+4 - decent choice if you can't hit iSW or GS reliably yet, or just for some variation, looks nice and you can link into the Flapjack or Mini Swing enders, which can be broken (but if you're successful at landing the Flapjack, it raises to 68 dmg), or end there and go straight into wakeups with an almost guaranteed d+3+4. The only drawback of this juggle is that you can't land the f+1+2 on small characters or females. CH d/b+3, FC,d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) - if you happen to have them trapped with their back to a wall prior to the CH d/b+3 hit, then by all means go for the ground throw, the attempt is completely guaranteed if timed properly (not that hard; since you can execute ground throws from FC now, you don't need crouch cancel) meaning they only have the option of breaking it, but even if they break, they will be at the bad end of your free b+3 for a wall splat and probably another ground throw attempt! If they break again reset the situation again until your ground throw connects. Funny isn't it? Other more conventional enders are: f+1,2, b+3 f+1, 1+2,1 Other juggles are most likely started by other different launchers such as CH b+1, CH d/b+3 or CH 4. CH b+1 allows a ton of different moves to hit which are normally not guaranteed after other starters. A CH d/b+3 only allows for one very specific followup (WS+4). CH 4 allows a few more juggles, but these are harder to do (except for b+1, d+3+4,2). There's also a few u/f+4 juggles that would fall within this class as they use other different followups (f+1+2, f+1+4, etc), altough those juggles are meant more for style and flashiness rather than the ones starting with f+2,2... and definitely not the ones you would use in a world tournament. There are some juggles which are A LOT easier if you hit the starter off-axis. For example, CH 4, b+3 can only be done if you were a bit to their left (your right) before hitting the CH 4. For the CH b+1, f,f+2,1 and CH b+1, f+1+2 combos, a small SS to the left before (or after) the CH b+1 makes the whole combos possible. Wall Combos: ------------ Combo Dmg Diff. b+1+2 (w!), b+3 21 1 u/f+4 (w!), f+1,2, b+3 48 3 u/f+4 (w!), f+2,2, 1,2, d/b+(1+3_2+4) (breakable) 84 5 WS+1+2 (w!), f+1,2, b+3 53 3 1+2,1 (w!), d/f+1,2 56 1 1+2,1 (w!), u/b+1 60 1 1+2,1 (w!), f+2,2 61 1 1+2,1 (w!), f+2+3 68 1 1+2,1 (w!), f,f+2,1 72 4 1+2,1 (w!), f+1+2* (Jack-5) 72 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,f+3 (w!), f+2,2 74 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,N+2 (w!), iSW 77 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,N+2 (w!), f+2+3 ?? 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,N+1 (w!), f+1+2* 80 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,N+2 (w!), f+1+2* 83 3 1+2,1 (w!), b,b,f+3 (w!), d/b+(1+3)_(2+4) (breakable) 84 4 b+3 (w!), f+2+3 52 2 b+3 (w!), f+1+2* (Jack-5) 59 3 b+4 shallow hit (w!), BT 1+4 50 1 f,N,d,df+4 (w!), 1+3_2+4 53 1 f,N,d,df+4 (w!), 1,2 54 2 f,N,d,df+4 (w!), GS 60 2 f,N,d,df+4 (w!), iSW 68 2 CH d+3+4,2 (w!), d+1,N+2 34 2 CH d+3+4,2 (w!), b+3 39 1 CH d+3+4,2 (w!), f+4 39 2 A high wall splat (caused by a high launcher once it hits when their back is to the wall) allows for pretty much every move to connect. The CD+4 (jumping knee) causes a high wall splat, but since it recovers so slow you can't get a whole lot of stuff. CD+4 really should be considered as causing a mid, or even low wall splat even though technically is a high one. The CD+4, iSW requires some distance between opponent and wall before the CD+4 connects so you can have enough space which is needed to pull out iSW. As said before, f+2+3 is the most reliable followup after a wall stun. f,f+2,1 doesn't work all the time, seems to be angle reliant. Same goes for f+1+2* on big characters. If you cause a high wall splat, but you're not in the best angle to get a good combo, most of the time you can SS and then get a standard juggle. For example you can do: u/f+4 (w!), SSR f+3, 1, f+2,2,2. However, the camera angle might confuse and screw you up sometimes. +------------+ | Tech traps | +------------+ Basic tech traps: ----------------- CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2, u/f+3 (catches tech to King's left side) CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2, CD+1+2 (catches both sides - strict timing required) CH d/b+3, WS+4, d+3+4,2, d/b+4 (free u/f+3 if d/b+4 lands on techrollers) (after any small juggle ending with d+3+4,2), d/b+4 or u/f+3 launcher, f+2,2, d/f+1,2, f+2+3 (works better against bigs) launcher, f+2,2, 2, b+4, BT+1+4 launcher, f+2,2, f+1,2, f,f+2+3 (doesn't work in 5.1 - can be avoided by roll forwards or quick handspring, and it won't leave you with initiative at all, even if it lands) 1+4 Tech traps: --------------- You can try 1+4 on techrolling opponents at the end of these sequences: (escaped by either spring forward or quick roll back) u/f+4, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 43 dmg u/f+4, 2, f+2,2, 1,2 - 45 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 - 43 dmg CH b+1, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 45 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 - 45 dmg CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 54 dmg CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 54 dmg FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 - 49 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 - 51 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2 - 53 dmg (escaped by quick roll back only) u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1,2 - 41 dmg* CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 40 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1,2 - 42 dmg CH b+1, f+2,2, f+1,2 - 43 dmg CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, 1 - 44 dmg CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1 - 44 dmg FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 46 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1,2 - 48 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1,2 - 50 dmg *1+4 usually connects as a counter hit for the u/f+4 juggle - 1+4 is 25 dmg on normal hit, usually 30 dmg on CH and 17 dmg if you hit them springing up. Add 1+4 dmg to the juggle dmg above. - 1+4 might miss if u/f+4 connects at max range. - if opponent techs to his left, 1+4 will hit him and will guarantee a rising 3 for an additional 7 dmg or 10 dmg juggle starter. - generally 1+4 catches techs for a maximum of 6 hits in a juggle, any juggle with more than 6 hits will cause the 1+4 to whiff Missed f+1+2 tech trap setups: ------------------------------ - After a missed f+1+2 and they tech, you can buffer GS or TS or any grab that can be buffered from the f+1+2. u/f+4, f+2,2, f+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 47 dmg u/f+4, 2, f+2,2, 1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 51 dmg u/f+4, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 52 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 49 dmg CH b+1, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 51 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 51 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 52 dmg CH b+1, SSR, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 54 dmg CH b+1, f+2,2, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 54 dmg CH b+1, f+1+2, f+3, 1, f,f, d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 57 dmg CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 60 dmg CH b+1, f,f+2,1, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 63 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 57 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 59 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 60 dmg FC,d/f+2, f+3, 2, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 62 dmg FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1,2, b+1, {f+1+2} - 55 dmg FC,d/f+1, f,f+3, 1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f,N+1, f,f, d/f+1,2, {f+1+2} - 58 dmg +------------+ | Misc stuff | +------------+ King's unreversable moves: -------------------------- f+2,2,2 (all hits - Bryan can parry) f,f+2 1+2,1 (1st hit) d+1+2 f,f+1+2 [BT] 1+4 f+1+4 f+2+3 (Anna can reverse, Jin & Wang can parry) f,f+2+3 (u/b_u_u/f)+2+4 u/f+3 (close range) BT 3 d/f+3,4 (2nd hit) f,N,d,d/f+4 f,f+3+4 WR+3+4 u/f+3+4 SS+3+4 Chickens for moves that use 2 buttons: -------------------------------------- u/f+1+2 -> f+1+3 u/f+1+2* -> f+2+4 f,f,N+1+2 -> f+2+4 f,N,d,d/f+1+2 -> f+2+4 WS+1+2 -> f+1+3 List of 1+2 moves that King's b+1+3 can reverse ----------------------------------------------- Anna: (f_f,f_WS)+1+2 d/f+1+2 SS+1+2 d/b+1+2 Asuka: 1+2 Baek: (f)+1+2 Bruce: 1+2 Bryan: (FC_d_N)+1+2 b+3,1+2 (2nd hit) Christie: 1+2 d/b+1+2 (u/b_u_u/f)+1+2 SS+1+2 Devil Jin: b+1+2* Feng: f,f+1+2 Ganryu: 1+2 1+2,1+2 (2nd hit only) f,f+1+2 (d_SS)+1+2 WS+1+2 Heihachi: 2,2~1 1+2 d/f+1+2 b+1+2 b,b+1+2 Hwoarang: f+1+2 Jack-5: 1+2,1+2 f+1+2 WS+1+2 SS+1+2 d+1+2 Jin: f+1+2 King: u/f+1+2* f,f,N+1+2 f,N,d,d/f+1+2 Kuma: 1+2,1+2,1+2 (2nd and 3rd hits) f+1+2 WS+1+2 HBS 1+2 Law: f+1+2 Lei: 1+2 f+1+2 d/f+1+2 Marduk: f+1+2 d/b+1+2 u/f+1+2 1+2 Nina: (f_f,f_WS)+1+2 All blonde bombs in any string b+1+2 u/f+1+2 (it's a throw) SS+1+2 d/b+1+2 Paul: b+1+2 Raven: 1+2 QCF+1+2 d/f+1+2 d+1+2,d~d/b~b~u/b~u~u/f~f+1+2 Roger Jr: 1+2 Steve: f+1+2 d/f+1+2 Wang: f+1+2 d/f+1+2 d+1+2 b,b+1+2 Xiaoyu: 1,d+2,1+2 (2nd and 3rd hits) 1+2 f,f+1+2 RDS f+1+2 AOP 1+2 AOP d+1+2 b+1+2<1+2 Yoshimitsu: f,f+1+2 b+1+2 +--------------------------------+ | VS strats section (incomplete) | +--------------------------------+ - VS Character Strategies Excuse me if this section isn't complete yet, but I don't own the game, and there are no T5 arcades in my city either, so I don't get to play it as much as I want to (the only way I play is from time to time, mainly in some random gathering with my comp and we rent a PS2 and the game. It's somewhat expensive to play this way...) However, I don't want to leave any hole open. There ARE some VS strats here and there, just not much. Most of this stuff comes from what was said by people in TZ forums, credit is given to who is due. For the punishment lists I will use the following format: blocked enemy move = free King stuff example: 1,2,4 = 1+2,1 means after blocking the opponent's 1,2,4 move, King has a guaranteed 1+2,1. VS Kazuya --------- Short punishing list: 1,1,2 = uf+4 1,2,4 = WS+4 df+1 = 2,1 df+1,f+2 = b+1 f,N,df+1 = df+1,2 f,N,df+1,3 = df+1,2 f,N,df+1,4 = WS+4 WS+1,2 = 2,1 df+2 (far block) = 2,1 (close) or b+1 (*) b+2,4,1 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 f,f+2 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+2 (regular WGF) = 2,1 WS+2 = uf+4 f+1+2 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 (far) f+1+2,f+2 = SSR 2nd hit then punish with uf+4 db+3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 f,N,d,DF+4 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 df+4,4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 b+4 = 2,1 WS+4,4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 (*) : if you block df+2 at close range Kaz remains safe, you can tell if this happens because a blocked df+2 at clean/close range gives a different animation on guard (Kaz's opponent kinda turns briefly to the side) Strings: - 1,2,2_4: after 1,2 you can duck, then punish the ducked 2 ender with WS+1+2 or low parry the 4 for a free hopkick - df+1,2_f+2_4: you can duck the 2 and 4 enders. The 4 doesn't juggle you if the previous df+1 didn't hit, so you can at least take the risk with b+1+3 to reverse the other punch enders. (However, as general rule of thumb, you shouldn't reverse unless you can actually see what you're trying to reverse) - CD+1,3_4: after CD+1, you can interrupt both enders with f+1 for a juggle. You can also interrupt both enders with a b+1, it will stun him out the 3, or float him out of the 4. - WS+1,2: you can b+1+3 reverse the 2 on reaction. - b+2,4,1: you can b+2+4 reverse the 4, or duck under the 4 for free uf+4. - b+3,1,4,1: you can low parry the 4. Kaz has returned as a powerful, yet risky character. When facing him, avoid to make mistakes or whiffs, and don't be over-aggresive. Even if his options are very unsafe for the most part, he still has good power to destroy anyone with strong juggles. Luckily, you can punish almost every move of his stuff. Just turtle safely and don't leave yourself open for EWGF, 1,1,2, or WS+1,2 etc. He has such a lack of offensive power because his mids are either fast but pretty punishable (WS+1,2, df+4,4, df+1,4, etc.) or really too slow to be used often (f+2, f+4, db+2, etc). There are 2 exceptions here, one is df+2 which is safe at close range but if blocked at mid to far range can be punished, the other one is b+1 which is kind of a short mid poke, that gives him the advantage on block and hit, and gives him free oki on CH, but doesn't have really that good range and isn't really that fast either. His famous mixup of CD~WS+1,2/CD+4,1 (twin pistons and hellsweep) is back, but you can punish both of those on block, also WS+1,2 has lost range compared to previous incarnations. Most players try to use these mixed with EWGF, but this time you can slash through those three moves (CD~WS+1,2, CD+4,1 and EWGF) at short range with d+1,N+2 or d+2. This was impossible in TTT because EWGF was able to interrupt even the faster d+1 with its very high priority, but now in T5 the EWGF has been changed into a high move, and at the same time d+1 gained high crush properties, so it will crush the EWGF and interrupt the other two options at the same time. This is if you're in an idle position, where no one has the advantage, but if you eat a jab or poke that gives him frames, you are going to sit there and try to guess the mixup. Needless to say that it's still better to keep blocking high because CD+4,1 doesn't hurt as much as a full WS+1,2 juggle. Be careful of his b+4 up close (it's like King's b+1 but with less reach) and his new FC throw (1+2 break). Practice and learn to see his lows on reaction (db+4, db+3) when you're turtling, it might be key to victory. His hellsweep is really impossible to see on reaction, but if you ever block one, make sure you erase half of his life bar with a good FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 juggle. Take note that out of all his lows, only db+3 (and generic d+4) has the ability to high crush and go under a move, the CD+4,1 only evades highs if the CD motion goes under a high, but the hellsweep in itself lacks the crush property, therefore it can be interrupted even with jabs. On the same subject, if Kazuya hits you with his db+4 low, don't press buttons because he is actually setting up df+2 CH. If you block df+2 in this situation he will be safe from jabs or whatever, so if you think he will df+2 after his db+4 hits, remember your b+1+3 right punch reversal please, that's what it's good for! Again, learn to spot and lowparry his db+4 on reaction (can be done) so that you don't have to worry about this stupid CH df+2 bait. Interrupt b+1+4 unblockable with df+1,2 (d+3+4,2 seems guaranteed afterwards) Don't try to d+1 him out of it! It has little range and you might whiff. Remember that Kaz is not as safe as he used to be anymore, he can still kill you if you whiff a move (even if it's just a single poke) with his EWGF, but his mixups are risky. Kaz needs you to whiff something for him to launch and thrive, but if you manage to turtle carefully and punish his moves on block, everything will be fine. If he is the one turtling, move in and do a little "fake" offense - do whatever it takes to get him back into offensive mode - then pull back and punish. I emphasize on not going over-agressive, as he has the means to either CH you or make you whiff and kill you with HUGE combos. VS Law ------ Short punishing list: [1,]2,f+2,2 = 2,1 [1,]2,f+2,1+2 = 2,1 d+1 = WS+4 d+1,2 = 2,1 b+1,2,1 = f+3:1+2 or f+2,2 or b+3 uf+1,3 = WS+4 QCF+1,2,1,2 = df+1,2 or b+1 (d_FC)+2,3 = uf+4 f,f+2,1,3 = b+1 WS+2 = b+3 BT 2,2 = df+1,2 or b+3 db+3 = WS+4 FC,df,d,df+3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle or FC+2+4 airthrow (fast) df+4,3 = uf+4 db+4 = uf,N+4 or FC,df+2 or FC,df+1 UF+4 = df+1,2 UF+4,3 = uf+4 DSS/DFS [1,]f+1 = b+1 Strings: - [1,1..,]2,f+2,1+2: You can b+1+3 reverse the last hit - d+1,3: You can b+2+4 reverse 2nd hit if you blocked the 1st - 2,2,1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the last hit - b+1,2,1: You can SSR the 2nd hit or SSL the 3rd hit for free uf+4 - b+2,3,4_d+4: Low parry the 2nd hit. If that fails, you can almost always visualize and read the d+4 ender, block and punish it accordingly. - f,f+2,1,3: Duck 2nd hit and punish with uf+4, or b+2+4 reverse last hit - df+3,3,3_4: Low parry 2nd hit. If he does df+3,3,3 if the 2nd hit connects you can still duck (not block) the 3rd, but you risk eating the mid 4 ender which launches. Do yourself a favor and low parry the 2nd hit ;) - 4,u+3: you can SSR or b+2+4 reverse 2nd hit Law belongs to the kind of "in-your-face" characters, simply because he barely has any long range stuff. This means he won't be likely to play spacing, or keep-away games or anything like that. He's in your grill, either pitbulling you hoping to get a CH with moves like d+2,3, or turtling so that he can parry the stuff you throw at him or punish it with a launcher. His standard mid parry can go into DSS so he can get a free DSS 1, DSS 2 or DSS 2+4 throw (break with 2) if he succesfully parries you (this is dependant on the move he has parried). His b+1+2 (fake step) has been given the punch parry property for the whole animation, and he can do most of his DSS moves (specifically DSS 3+4 flying kick, it comes out quickly) out of it, so be careful about rushing at him. He can do all of his DSS stuff after both DSS and DFS stances (which look the same BTW), the b+1+2 fake step as well as his moves that can shift into DSS/DFS automatically (his WS+3) or with b,f. Furthermore, his moves with the ability of ending into DSS should be treated with a little respect because he does automatically parry in the first frames of the transition. These include the 1...2 punches, the 4,3 string, the b+1,2 (first 2 hits of dragon storm), the last hit of b+2,3,4, the SS+2,1,2,1, the 2,f+2,2, and the f,f+3, WS+3 and WS+4 kicks. Couple that with his 8 frame jabs (CH uf+1 gives him a free 4,3), his 11-frame magic 4 as well as his staple interrupters like d+2,3, d+4,3 and WS+4_df+4,3 and chances are, King will be the one turtling in this particular matchup majority of the time. The bad thing about turtling is, he will get the chance to go for his mixups. Law's best mixup is the one that comes from FC, as he has FC,df,d,df+3 (low slide) as well as his mid WS+2 launcher and WS+4,3 as interrupter. And he got a lot of moves that put him on FC, like his f+1+2~D that gives him advantage on block. If you ever get yourself caught in his FC guessing game, you should block standing unless you can actually see his slide and block/parry it - the WS+2 to huge juggle damage isn't worth taking. d+1,N+2 can SOMETIMES interrupt him depending on his setup but don't ever get predictable with that, or you'll eat low parry into hopkick juggle. His f+1+2 is probably more annoying than a Bryan b+1, but you have two ways to deal with it, one is interrupting him with a b+1, and the other is b+1+3 to reverse it when he becomes predictable. The good thing is that a bloody lot of Law's stuff is punishable. For a start, all of his flipkicks or moves that end in a flipkick are punishable (except for 4,u+3), and most of them (except for UF+4) are punishable with a hopkick. He doesn't seem to have any safe lows either, though King is unable to launch him after blocking his db+3. Another good thing is, Law has huge, and I mean HUGE problems trying to track. He has virtually nothing that tracks, except for b+3 which isn't that fast. Sidestep a lot, and be ready for his b+3 every now and then; with a bit of luck, you may even be able to reverse it for good damage and wakeups. VS Jack-5 --------- Short punishing list: 1,1 = uf+4 (close) or FC,df+2 or WS+2 DF+1,2,1,2 = 1,2 (close) db+1 = WS+4 db+1,{1,1},2 = b+1 b,db,d,df+1 = uf,N+4 HCF,df+1 = b+3 WS+1 = 2,1 2,1,2 = uf+4 df+2 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 d+2,1 = WS+4 db+2 = FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) f,f+2 = df+1,2 or b+3. f~uf+4 can hit too if you're really fast FC,DF+2,1,2 = 1,2 WS+2 = 2,1 1+2,1+2 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 f+1+2,1+2 = WS+1+2 d+1+2 = uf+4 or uf,N+4 (fast) FC,df+1+2 = WS+1+2 WS+1+2 = uf+4 WS+1+2,1+2 = uf+4 db+4 = WS+4 (close) (f_FC,df)+3+4 = 2,1 df+3+4 = f~uf+4 Strings: - 1,2: duck after 1st hit for free launcher of choice - DF+1,2,1,2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd or 4th hits - DF+2,1,2,1: b+1+3 to reverse 1st or 3rd hits - d+2,1: Low parry the 2nd hit - 1+2,1+2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit - f+1+2,2: SSR the 2nd hit, then punish with uf+4 Jack is back, and he's not a low tier anymore, so don't underestimate him. He has a lot of new moves and many of his old ones have been redesigned. On that, one of the first things that come to mind is df+2. Jack's df+2 does launch a crouching opponent, unlike the other df+2's in the game, he also reaches A LOT longer than other characters, but can be punished on block. He also got f,f+2 to punish big whiffs, it's in the slow side and is punishable too, but he will dish out good damage from it. He also keeps most of his trademark moves, like DF+1,2,1,2 (which can juggle on CH for massive damage), the f+1+2,2_1+2, the b,db,d,df+1 (low) and b,db,d,df+2 (mid), the d+1+2 (risky for him, is slow and punishable but is a great high crush and does TONS of damage), his db+1,1,1,2 string (of which the db+1 alone is an excellent low poke, giving him mixups on hit). He has lots of sources for damage, has SS punishers (SS+2, SS+1, and the SS+1+2 sometimes), safe power shots (f,f+1), and bunches of stuff that either hit grounded and/or can be used for oki or wakeup purposes (db+4 as the quick ground hit, df+1+2 or f,f+3 for the chronic sleepers, HCF+1 for pressure on a rising opponent, the HCF~df+1 relaunch risers AND hits grounded, etc). Among his new moves, is his new df+3+4 (it's a quick shoulder rush, that does good damage on itself, and knocks down), it's pretty fast, but it's horrible for him on block. He gained a new power low (db+2), a jumping move for the low crush purposes (uf+2, gives him free d+2,1 on CH). He also keeps his EXCELLENT throw arsenal with a new 1+3 that wall splats, two good single breaks in QCF+1 and QCB+2, the df,df+2+4 which juggles, uf+1+2 to megaton punch, the db,f+1+2 which can be buffered, and his db+2+3 which gives him a free df+3+4 for 60 and possible wall splat. Be really careful about this one, especially if your back is next to a wall as he can easily get db+2+3, df+3+4 to wall splat to another df+3+4 for a total of over 100 dmg! Break it with 2. The uf+1+2,d,df+2 is also dangerous at walls, but you can still block the megaton punch. Jack does have his flaws though. He can poke to a degree, but his poking game is still below many characters in the game, including King. For pokes you can expect 2,1 (his fastest poke) which is a 10 frame right jab into a mid elbow. When you block the 1 in this string, you can buffer a SS (to either side) and you will automatically SS his next move. You can evade the 3rd hit of 2,1,2 that way, by buffering a SSR while blocking the 1, then punish the missed 3rd hit with uf+4, but a wise Jack player won't do the last 2 because it's already punishable on block. Still, if Jack uses 2,1 to pressure, you can quickly SS his moves to the correct side as you block the 1. You can also SS his uppercut rushes (DF+1,2,1,2, FC,DF+1,2,1, etc.), though you must do this manually, as you can't buffer a SS in the middle of those strings. He also has b+1, which is kinda like Kaz's b+1 but leaves him at small disadvantage on block and hit and recovers crouching. On CH he gets free oki, though. His d+2,1 (low jab to FC+1) is still there as a natural combo and crushes highs, you can low parry the 2nd hit as always, or crush it with uf+4. Overall you don't have much to worry if you're good reading animations, most of his power moves are slow, or punishable (many of them give you launchers), or both, and those moves that aren't won't hurt you that much. If Jack abuses db+1, crush that with f+4 or uf+4. If he lands the db+1 it's a guessing game for you, don't press buttons and keep standing, don't try to SS either (WS+1 launches and tracks pretty well), watch out for possible lows from FC, as in earlier Tekkens you can read and block his FC,df+1+2 on reaction, but FC+1 is a bit harder, luckily it doesn't do a ton of damage and you can still block the next hit in the string. Also watch out for throws, specifically uf+1+2, he can do it straight from FC, without crouch cancelling first. Jack is generally vulnerable to SSR, many of his staple moves can be stepped that way, the db+1 is hard to SSR but can be done, however f+1+2 tracks BOTH sides nicely, make sure you punish that on block. King has the advantage in speed, you can pressure Jack with jabs and b+1, however do not rely solely on those moves; make sure you use a good amount of MIDS like f+3:1+2, d/f+2 and d/f+1>2. Jack has lots of high crush moves, which will mean some pain if they land, and a good part of his game comes from crouch as well. Dish out as many mids as you need to interrupt his high crushes and keep him discouraged from going into FC. (from Lil Majin) vs Jack, you have to be very quick to react and you must have your iSW combos down packed if you want to keep him from abusing certain moves. You have to remember that most of his moves are high crushes and that turtling against J5 gives him more options and allows him to take more risks. Basically, you have to be in his face alot and at the same time turtle. You can't afford to eat a CH DF+1,2,1,2 from Jack so don't abuse high strings. However, Jack cannot afford to make mistakes against King either. Here's a list of punishable Jack-5 moves. Debugger -> free uf+1+2 or uf,N+4 d+2,1 -> free WS+4. You can also low parry the 1 db+2 -> free uf,N+4 df+2 -> free b+1 HCF,df+1 -> free b+3 f,f+2 -> free b+3 WS+1 -> free 2,1 WS+2 -> free 2,1 f+3+4 -> free 2,1 df+3+4 -> free f,f,uf+4 FC,df+1+2 -> free WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 d+1+2 -> free uf+4 db+1 -> free WS+4 db+4 -> free WS+4 df+1+2 -> free uf,N+4 (too much lag) Btw, Jack-5's df+1,2,1,2 can be sidestepped in between hits, which is a lot better than jabbing him out of it because you get a free uf+4 after SS'ing one of them. VS Baek ------- If you are in need of a lifesaver against Baek's triple SSL, look no further than u/b+1. It isn't that fast and hits high, but it's still low risk if used correctly, Baek can't block or duck while he's in Flamingo stance, he could crush it if he's good, but only his d/b+4 is a real menace in that aspect, and that move is pretty slow and if you block it he's screwed. VS Bryan -------- Short punishing list: 1,2,3 = WS+4 1,4,3 = 2,1 SS+1 = 2,1 (QCF_WS)+1 = b+3 2,3 = 2,1 (QCF_WS)+2~b+1 = 2,1 (N_d)+1+2 = 2,1 3,2,1,2 = 2,1 3,2,1,4 = WS+4 df+3 = uf,N+4 (close) or FC,df+2 d+3,2 = 2,1 db+3 = WS+4 Bryan is good poker, his new 1,2>1 (8-frame) is beastly in which the last 1 is delayable, is safe on block and stuns on CH so after blocking 1,2 don't rush. His b+1 gives him +3 on guard so watch out and stay standing by default. Most of his moves are safe and you won't see much openings, so make sure you punish accordingly when you have the chance. Stop abusing King's df+1>2 if you don't want to eat punch parry. Stick to fast punches (jabs, d+1,N+2/d+2 and b+1) and do more kicks (f+3:1+2, df+3/df+3~4, f+4, standing 4, uf+4, iWS+4 etc). As many players said, Bryan is mostly a linear character and this is his weakness (he can counter SS with a few select moves like df+4, f,f+4, WS+3, uf+4 etc...note that many of those are KICKS and can be reversed as such). Also, King almost always has either free uf+4 or at least 1+2,1 after SSing Bryan's stuff. Luckily Bryan still lacks good lows, his df+3 is slow and his other lows like d+3, d+4 or db+3 don't hurt too much (although db+3 gives him advantage on a hit). Be careful about his f,f+1+2 throw. Overall, turtle with caution with emphasis on SS. (from Lil Majin) "DO'S AND DON'TS VS BRYAN" DO'S - Here are moves that you "do" versus Bryan because they are less risky: f+3: safe on guard and good for SSL at times f+1+2: kills Bryan's SSR and then b+1 combination db+4: good high crush low attack and kills random mach punches. Relatively safe on guard. uf+4: only jab punishable df+1,2: Bryan cannot punish.....good versus b+1's df+2: Kills bryan's ss options WS+1+2: Punish ducked throws and mach punches with this F+1+2*: punish SSLed jab strings with this, then get your free db+4. DON'TS - Here are moves that you "don't" do versus Bryan and here's why: 1+2,1: Bryan can punch parry the second hit, SSR the second hit and get a free launcher, or guard the second hit and get a free f,b+2. f,f+4: Bryan can punish with f,b+2 at almost any range and can punish with his f,f+2 at any range. CD+1+2: same as above. d+3+4,2: f,b+2...nuff said db+3: Bryan gets a free WS+1 FC,df+2: Bryan gets a free f,b+2 The best thing to do versus Bryan is to Sidestep to the left because he has almost nothing that tracks to the left. SSL and then hopkick his arse. (from TheDinosaur) If he does b+1, you can SSWR his jabs or another b+1 or even throws and uf+4 him, if he tries something that tracks SSR you can almost always SS it left. His uf+4 tracks SSR but it's not to hard to block (maybe even reverse) on reaction. Your own b+1 is OK against Bryan as you get the CH juggle if he b+1s, and a float if he uf+4s, plus it beats his safe mids, but take care you don't try to go head to head with his magic 4, especially in a wall stage. NB: as in Tag, if you block df+3 at maximum range, uf,N+4 will whiff, the best 100% guaranteed damage is FC,df+2 Anti-Nina --------- (from Lil Majin, Howling, TheDinosaur and others) You really have to turtle and know how to break her throws just because your turtling makes you immune to throws. Other than that, be very patient and play smart with few risks. You have to sidestep when she tries to do repeated 1,2's and df+1,2's. d+1,N+2 stops strings b4 they start. - BUFFER THOSE CHICKENS IN YOUR MOVES (not your left punches; if she reverses those, then you must break with 2) - Her weak side is her right so SSL+2, SW left is in order - If she does df+1,2 (block) jab_df+1 you can beat both options with d+1,N+2. Don't do this often - her best throw is 2+4 so break with 2 if you don't know. Her multi breaks are now just 1 or 2 (no 1+2 breaks except after her QCF+1+2), the 2 break usually avoids eating the most damage - her uf+1+2 to the wall hurts, but you get a free rising sweep on her as she recovers slowly - King can use lows a little more as she can't really punish and has poor reward off low parry (unless your back is next to a wall.) - King's 1(block) 1,2 is UNINTERRUPTABLE so use that fact to your advantage - f+2+3 kills sway/hayashida - after d+4 is blocked, WS+1+2 will beat anything she might try (d+4,1 / d+4,1~SS+2 etc) - learn to read her QCF mixups, DC is slow and SSable, d,df+4 is really slow - Her u+4 is -10, so 1,2 throw or 2,1 throw are good - uf+1 and 1+4 force you into crouch, but do not have frame advantage on block (1+4 is something like -5, uf+1 is less), mix up uninterruptable WS+4, WS+throw, any standard FC stuff etc. - Her f+3 hits high twice, you can duck the 2nd hit on block of the first if you're good. if you block both hits instead, she will have advantage so stay standing (highs will hit if you duck), watch out for d+4 and throws Anti-Anna (preliminary) --------- King's db+3 crushes random QCF+1 attempts. CD in anticipation (to duck and uf+4 or WS+1+2 when she whiffs over your head) is good too. Most of her lows can be spotted except for df+4 (which can be punished with uf+4 anyway). Be careful about CH d+3,2 (crushes highs) and throws. As with Nina, buffering chicken in reversable moves is advised. You can make use of King's CD+1+2 (Black Bomb) move because she can't punish King with a launch. You can also abuse lows to a degree, Anna has troubles punishing King's db+3 on block with a juggle because her WS+2 is too slow, but she can still low parry it and get an UF+4 flipkick launch. Anti-Marduk (preliminary) ----------- Tackle escapes have been changed. Now, it's either 1, 2, or nothing. Avoid to leave yourself on ground too much (your uf+3 on block is fine, other moves are not). His VTS stance backdash seems vulnerable to King's f+2+3. I've had success in the ocassions I tried it. If he abuses his 1+2 push, use King's b+1+3 reversal (1+2 is seemingly abused when your back to the wall as it beats any move) Anti-Paul --------- (from MarkMan) You CAN'T duck his f,f+2,1...if you tap D/B the moment you block the f,f+2, then hold back, you will eliminate the mixup BTW. I don't think that was mentioned anywhere before.. Anti-King --------- f,f+4: Punish with 1+2,1 b+4: Punish with f+4 1+2,1: Punish with b+1 d+3+4,2: Punish with uf+4 juggle f,N,d,df+1+2: Punish with uf+4 juggle f+2+3: Punish with WS+4 FC,df+2: Punish with df+1,2 db+3: Punish with uf+4 juggle f,f+2+3: Punish with uf+3 f,f,N+2: Punish with uf+4 juggle db+4: Punish with uf+3 uf+4: Punish with f+1,2 VS Heihachi ----------- Punishment list: 1,2,2 = 2,1 1,2,4 = 1+2,1 f+1,b+2,1 = uf,N+4 df+1,2 = uf,N+4 or CD~WS+1+2 d+1,2 = b+1 f,N,d,df+1 (regular TGF) = uf+4 2,2 = 2,1 db+2 = uf+4 f,f+2 = b+3 QCF+2 = df+1,2 f,N,d,df+2 (regular WGF) = 2,1 SS+2 = 2,1 f+1+2 = df+1,2 b+3,3 = WS+4 f,N,d,DF+3 = WS+1+2 FC,df+4 = WS+1+2 WS+4,4 = f+2,2 d+3+4, 1 = 2,1 d+3+4, 1,2 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 VS Steve -------- Short punishing list: [1,]2,1,d+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 d+1 = WS+4 b+1,2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 WS+1,2 = 2,1 db+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 uf+2 = 2,1 FC,db+2 = FC,df+2 f,f,N+2 = WS+4 df+1+2 = b+1 db+3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 uf+3 = WS+4 uf+4 = 2,1 3+4,d+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 LWV 1,1 = f+1,2 (close) RWV 2 = f+2,2 (close) or df+1,2 DCK 2 = b+1 The first thing you need to know is that 1,2,1,2_d+2 and 2,1,2_d+2 are not a real mixup on the last hit. In both of those variants the last mid 2 is jail, if you blocked the first few jabs you'll automatically block the 2 ender, no matter what you do. In other words you can hold db to block the low d+2 ender without the risk of being hit by the mid 2. That for a start, however smart Steve players will shift into Flicker stance after the last 1 and then using a mid from FLK. Be careful about that. (from a TZ user that I can't remember) df+2 hits him out of albatross spins, SS left kills his mixups (from Tiger'sEye) SW right is your friend. Seriously. When used at the right times it can dodge some of his key moves like df+1,2, df+2 and 1,2,1. d+1 cannot be crushed by your uf+4 (both will miss each other). It's better NOT to anticipate and crush this move anyway because if you guess wrong and he does 1,2 or df+1,2 instead you'll be floated and juggled to the wall. Just crouch if you think he's gonna do it and WS+4 after blocking. After getting hit by his WS+1,2 (which leaves you in FC), throw out WS+4 and FC,df+1 every now and then to keep him on his toes. Your WS+4 can beat out a lot of his moves that aren't jab speed, and FC,df+1 is high crush all the way so it'll zip under his 1,2,1 if he tries it. Once you've got him to NOT attack after the WS+1,2, you can start throwing out Shining Wizards and/or db+3. WR+2 can be SW'ed right very easily if they get predictable. Most Steves like throwing this out after 3+4,2. SW right and punish with 1+2,1 or hopkick. 3+4,2 and 3+4,d+2 mixups have to be dealt with the hard way i.e. just keep playing until you're seasoned enough to see the difference. Or if you're REALLY good, you can interrupt the spin with uf+4. (Note: 3+4, d+2 is SLOW and with practice, it can be seen on reaction.) The delayed Tombstone trick works well after blocking his db+2 or 3+4,d+2 i.e. after blocking with db, return the joystick to N, then tap f+2. 9/10 Steve players hold B when their low punch gets blocked. If you duck his db+3,2, you have enough time to FC,df+2~juggle. KILL THE BASTARD! - King's Punishment Lists If the above stuff didn't help you too much against some characters, here is something else you can try. I have tried to make these lists as complete as possible, but keep in mind most of those punishable moves are not obligatory for most (if not all) characters, the staple moves of each character normally are limited to a fraction of their respective movelists, but the intention I am pursuing with this is that you have an idea on how to punish some moves in particular that an opponent could use to screw you, even if they are not part of the "staples". Do not try to memorize them all, it's not worth the effort, just take care of their staple moves. If you find an opponent who is annoying you with an unusual move, then you look for the stuff below. Also if you find something incorrect, or something that you can punish on block with King and is not already included here, please e-mail me about it. As always, this is the format I used for these lists: Character --------- enemy blocked move = King's best guaranteed punishment Of course, if a move is totally safe, or safe against King in particular, it won't appear in the list. What to do against some characters' strings is detailed after each list. Notes: - 2,1 can be replaced with f+1,2 in most cases, but note that 2,1 is still more reliable than the other move. f+1,2 is better for tracking purposes (like after blocking King's ub+1). 2,1 seems to have slightly better reach and gives King better positioning (easier to buffer most throws from it). - f+4 can be replaced with b+3 in most cases (except when the enemy's move recovers crouching). b+3 has longer range though, so b+3 can reach where a f+4 cannot. - Both WS+1+2 and uf,N+4 can be replaced with FC,df+2. - WS+2 can be replaced with FC,df+2 too, if you're fast after blocking. The FC,df+2 seems that bit stricter in terms of execution, so let's say you are blocking a low of -15 that pushes far on block, you could reach with FC,df+2 if you're good, but if your timing is off the move could get blocked, in that case WS+2 is a lot easier to hit, but is less rewarding of course. - uf+4 can be replaced with FC,df+2, if the enemy's blocked move is a low hit and you're fast enough. - In order to punish the various characters' strings, in most cases you need to BLOCK the hits previous to the punishment point (example: "- f+3,3,4: reverse the 3rd hit", it means you should have blocked f+3,3 before trying to reverse the 4), UNLESS INDICATED OTHERWISE Punishment lists: ----------------- Anna: ----- 1,2,1,d+4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 1,2,3 = WS+4 1,4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 (df_WS)+1,2,3 = 2,1 db+1 = 2,1 db+1,1 = WS+1+2 db+1,4 = uf+4 b+1[,2,2] = 2,1 FC,f+1 = df+1,2 (close) or b+1 2,1,4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 2,3 = 2,1 2,d+3 = WS+4 b+2,2 = 2,1 SS+2 = WS+1+2 FC,df+2 = WS+1+2 (WS_f_f,f)+1+2 = b+3 3,3,2 = 2,1 df+3,1,2 = 2,1 df+3,1,4,2,1+2 = b+3 df+3,1,4,2,4 = WS+1+2 df+3,2,1,4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 df+3,2,3 = 2,1 df+3,2,d+3 = WS+4 df+3,3,3 = df+1,2 df+3,3,3,1 = uf+4 (d_FC)+3,2 = uf+4 db+3 = WS+1+2 u+3 = f+1,2 (close) f,f+3 = uf+4 f,f+3,4 = uf+4 f,f+3,4,3 = df+1,2 f,f+3,4,b+3 = 2,1 or d+2 4,3 = WS+4 f+4 = df+1,2 df+4 = uf+4 d+4 = WS+4 db+4 = FC,df+2 db+4,3 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 uf+4 = uf+4 (UF_FC,uf)+4 = df+1,2 d+3+4 = WS+1+2 CJM 1 = uf+4 CJM 3 = 2,1 CJM 4 = WS+1+2 CJM f,3 = df+1,2 Strings: - 1,2,1,4_d+4: Duck after the 2nd or 3rd hits, and low parry if she does d+4, or punish the ducked 4 with WS+1+2 - 1,2,3_4: Duck after 2nd hit and low parry the 3 or punish the ducked 4 with WS+1+2 - (df_WS)+1,2,3_4: Use b+2+4 to reverse both enders - uf+1,3,3+4: Interrupt the 3+4 with b+1 for CH stun, or use b+2+4 to reverse the 3 if it's delayed - 2,3_d+3_4: Duck after the 1st hit and low parry if she does d+3, otherwise punish the ducked 4 with WS+1+2 (2,3 is jail, but you can punish) - db+2,4: Use b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit (only if you blocked low the 1st) - b+2,2: Duck under the 2nd hit, then punish with WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 - 3,3_4: After blocking the 1st hit, duck and low parry if she does the 2nd 3, or punish the ducked 4 with WS+1+2 - df+3 strings: After blocking the df+3, try to duck right away. If she does df+3,2 or df+3,3 then you'll be forced to block standing. If she does df+3,4 or df+3,1 you'll duck the next hit. If you see she goes into df+3,1,4,2 then inmediately crush with d+1,N+2 to stop the mind games at the end. Otherwise, just keep trying to duck after df+3,2.. or df+3,3.. as there are no mid hits in those strings, just high or low. Be warned though, she can SS into her SS moves directly after df+3,2. Also if you get hit by df+3,3,3, you can still duck the 1 or 4 at the end. - 4,3: Low parry the 2nd hit - uf+4,3,4: Low parry the 2nd hit - (d_FC)+4,1: Guaranteed FC+2 after blocking her d+4, no matter what she does. You can also duck the 1 (if she does it), then punish with WS+1+2 Others: (WS_f_f,f)+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 db+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 SS+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Asuka: ------ 1,1,4 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 (only if you block low the first kick) 1,1,d+4 = FC,df+2 f+2 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 or 3. you can f~uf+4 (fast) to ensure it hits db+2 = 2,1 b+2,1,d+4 = FC,df+2 (WS+1+2 is unreliable) b+2,4 = WS+4 f,f+2 = b+1 FC,df+2 = WS+4 df+1+2 = df+1,2 1+4,2,4 = b+1 or b+4 1+4,2,d+4 = uf,N+4 or FC,df+2 3~4 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 df+3 = d+2 (close, not really reliable) db+3 = WS+4 b+3 = f+1+2 b+3,2 = 1+2,1 or f~uf+4 db+4 = WS+4 uf+4 = 2,1 f,f+4 = b+4 or f~b+1 3+4 = 2,1 Strings: - 1,3: Low parry the 2nd hit - 1,4: Low parry the 2nd hit (use f+3:1+2 or 1+2,1 afterwards) - df+1,2: Duck under the 2nd hit for free uf+4 or WS+1+2; if the df+1 connects as regular hit, you can still duck the 2 Others: db+4 or any form of Leg Cutter doesn't allow uf+4 if low parried 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+3 is not reversible Baek: ----- 1,2,3,3,3,4 = df+1,2 1,2,3,3,3,d+4 = WS+4 1,2,3,3,4,4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) 1,2,3,3,4,4,4 = WS+1+2 1,2,3,4,3 = f+1+2, uf+3_ground throw 2,2 = 2,1 b,b+2 = 2,1 1+2 = 2,1 1+2,4 = uf+4 3,3,3,4 = df+1,2 3,3,3,d+4 = WS+4 3,3,4,4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) 3,3,4,4,4 = WS+1+2 3,4,3 = f+1+2, uf+3_ground throw f+3,3 = WS+4 f+3,3,2 = uf+4 df+3,4 = b+1 (d_FC)+3,3,N+3 = uf+4 (d_FC)+3,3,d+3 = uf+4 db+3 = WS+4 f,f+3 = 2,1 (close) f,N,d,df+3 = f+1+2, uf+3_ground throw (FLA_WS)+3,3,4 = WS+4 (FLA_WS)+3,4,4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) (FLA_WS)+3,4,4,4 = WS+1+2 f+4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) f+4,4 = WS+1+2 df+4,4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) df+4,4,4 = WS+1+2 (d_FC)+4,3,3,3 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) (d_FC)+4,3,3,d+3 = uf,N+4 (d_FC)+4,3,3,d+3 (hit) = df+1,2 db+4 = FC,df+2 or uf,d+4 or uf+1+2 b+4 = uf+4 uf+4 = 2,1 WS+4,4,3 = df+1,2 (safe if last hit is canceled into FLA) WS+4,4,4 = WS+1+2 [uf+]3+4 = b+1 (safe if it ends into FLA, gives him advantage) FLA f+3 = 2,1 FLA d+3 = WS+4 FLA b+3 = 2,1 (close) Strings: - 1+2,4: b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit - df+3,4: b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit - u+4,3: duck the last hit for free launcher of choice Others: [f+]1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Bruce: ------ 1,2,1,2 = WS+4 1,2,4 = b+1 1,2,f+4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 1,2,d+4 = FC,df+2 1,4,3 = uf+4 f+1,2,1 = 1+2,1 df+1,2 = b+1 b+1 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 f,f+1 = WS+4 2,4 = b+1 2,f+4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 2,d+4 = FC,df+2 df+2 = 2,1 WS+2,1 = 2,1 3,2,1,2 = 2,1 3,2,1,4 = FC+4 df+3,1 = uf,N+4 (only if you have blocked the df+3) d+3,4 = WS+1 db+3,4 = WS+1 b+3,4 = df+1,2 or b+3 uf+3 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+3 = WS+4 SS+3 = 1+2,1 f+4,3,4 = b+1 df+4 = b+1 (close) b+4,3 = 2,1 b+4,3,4 = uf+4 b+4,3,d+4 = FC+4 b,b+4 = uf,N+4 SS+4,1 = 1,2 SS+4,4 = b+1 FC,df,d,df+4 = WS+1+2 df+3+4,3,3[,3] = uf+4 df+3+4,3,3,3,3 = uf+4 f,N,d,df,uf+3+4 = df+1,2 Strings: - WS+2,1: Duck the 2nd hit then punish with WS+1+2 - 3,2,1,2: Use b+1+3 to reverse the last hit - 3,2,1,4: Low parry the last hit - d+3,4 and db+3,4: Keep ducking after the first hit, then punish with WS+1+2 Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Bryan: ------ 1,2,3 = WS+4 1,4,3 = 2,1 df+1,2 = 2,1 SS+1 = 2,1 SS+1~2 = f+1,2 (QCF_WS)+1 = df+1,2 (close) or b+3 2,3 = 2,1 f+2,1,4 = 1+2,1 (QCF_WS)+2~b+2 = 2,1 QCB,N+2 = 2,1 1+2 = 2,1 b+1+4 on hit = 2,1 (close) or b+1 3,2,1,2 = 2,1 3,2,1,4 = WS+4 df+3 = uf,N+4 (close) or FC,df+2 d+3 = WS+4 d+3,2 = 2,1 db+3 = WS+4 b+3,2,1,2 = 2,1 b+3,2,1,4 = WS+4 4,3,4 = b+1 d+4 = WS+4 b,b+4 = db+3 or uf+3 or f,f+2+3 d+3+4,2,3 = 1,2 Strings: - 1,2,3: Low parry the last hit - 3,2,1,2_4: b+1+3 to reverse the 2nd hit, in 3,2,1,4 you can also low parry the last hit - 3,3,4: b+2+4 to reverse the last hit (don't mash the reversal, wait a split second. It has a little timing to it, but not hard at all) - WS+3,4: b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit Others: 1+2 (first hit only) can be reversed with b+1+3 b+3,1+2 (2nd hit) can be reversed with b+1+3 Christie: --------- 1,3 = d+3+4,2 (*) 1,3:4 = 1+2,1 or f,N,d,df+1+2 WS+1,3 = ground throw or f+3 f+2,1,4 = uf+4 df+2 = 2,1 (unreliable) 1+2~3 = 1+2,1 or f,N,d,df+1+2 1+2,N+3 = d+3+4,2 (*) FC+1+2 = d+2 FC+1+2~1,2 = df+1,2 SS+1+4 = uf,N+4 (close) or FC,df+2 3~4 = FC,df+1 df+3 = d+3+4,2 (*) (d_f,f)+3~3 = ground throw or f+3 db+3 = WS+4 db+3~4,1+2 = d+2 b+3,f = 1+2,1 b+3,3 = ground throw or f+3 uf+3,3 = 1+2,1 or f,N,d,df+1+2 uf+3,3+4 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle (QCF_FC,f)+3 = 2,1 df+4 = WS+4 (close) b+4,4,3+4 = 2,1 FC,db+4 = d+1 (close) 3+4 = 2,1 f+3+4 = 2,1 df+3+4 = 1+2,1 or f,N,d,df+1+2 SS+3+4 = b+3 HND d+3+4 = df+1,2, d+3+4,2 minijuggle or f,f+3 (fast) then juggle HND (u_d)+(3_4) = d+3+4,2 (*) RLX 1 = WS+4 RLX 1,3 = d+3+4,2 (*) RLX 2,3 = 2 and juggle (ex. 2, f+2,2, GS) RLX 3~4 = f+2+3 or iSW airthrow (fast) RLX 4~3 = FC,df+1 RLX f+3+4 = 4 or b+1 (**) (*) : if Christie goes into RLX then only d+3+4 will hit, unless you're fast (**) : this move is safe if blocked at max range Strings: - 3,4: Use b+2+4 to reverse 2nd hit, it has a little timing - db+3,3: WS+4 interrupts 2nd hit - b+4,4,3+4: d+1,N+2, d+3+4,2 her out of the 2nd hit, or 1 to juggle her out of the 3+4 - RLX 3,4: Use b+2+4 to reverse 2nd hit, you can still reverse even if RLX 3 hits on normal or even if it's a CH Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 db+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3, f,N,d,df+1+2 also beats it (ub_u_uf)+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Devil Jin: ---------- 1,1,2 = uf+4 1,2,2 = 2,1 1,2,4 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+1 = f+1 and juggle f,N,d,df+1,3 = df+1,2 f,N,d,df+1,4 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 2,2 = 2,1 df+2 = WS+4 df+2,1 = 2,1 df+2,2 = FC,df+2 b,f+2,1,d+2 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+2 = 2,1 WS+2 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 df+1+2 = uf,N+4 1+4,2,4 = 2,1 1+4,2,d+4 = uf,N+4 f,f+3,1,3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 f,N,d,DF+3 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 4~3 = uf+3 df+4,4 = df+1,2 or f+2,2 u+4,4,4 = uf,N+4 f,N,d,DF+4 = uf,N+4 (fast) or FC,df+2 {f,N,d,DF+4},4 = 1+2,1 WS+4,4 = df+1,2 or f+2,2 d+3+4 = uf+4 Strings: - WS+1,2: Use b+1+3 to reverse the 2nd hit - f,N,d,df+1,3_4: You can b+1 after the TGF, if he does 3 the b+1 will CH stun if he did the 4, the b+1 will float (do b+1, 1, f+2,2,2 or something) - b,f+2,1,2_d+2: you can SSR the last hit while blocking the 2nd, then punish with uf+4 - f,f+3,1,3_4: You can CH b+1 him out of both enders, you can also reverse the 4 or SS it to either side, or low parry the 3 or crush it with uf+4. Others: b+1+2* can be reversed with b+1+3 Don't use d+1,N+2 to interrupt b+1+4/B+1+4 unblockies, use d+2, df+1,2 or f+3 1+2 can be ducked for guaranteed uf,N+4 at close range or uf+1+2 or FC,df+1 at far range Feng: ----- 1,2,2 = df+1,2 db+1 = 2,1 db+1,2 = 2,1 (close) b,f+1 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 QCF+1 = uf+4 FC,df+1 = WS+4 WS+1,2 = 2,1 WS+1,2,1 = b+1 2~1 = 2,1 2~2 = f+2,2 or b+3 f+2,1,2 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2, BT 3 (maybe dash uf+4?) d+2 = WS+4 db+2,[2] = WS+4 uf+2 = 2,1 f,f+2 = 2,1 (close) QCF+2 = 2,1 WS+2 = 2,1 b+1+2 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2, BT 3 (maybe dash uf+4?) 3~4,3 = WS+4 db+3 = uf+4 uf+3 = uf+4 (QCF_WS)+3 = 2,1 BT d+3 = FC,df+2 f+4,3 = 2,1 f+4,4 = WS+4 db+4 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 uf+4 = 2,1 f,f+4 = 2,1 f,f+4,3 = 2,1 SS+4 = WS+4 (T5.1 SS+4 = FC,df+2) QCF+3+4 = uf+4 KNP 2 = 2,1 KNP 4 = 2,1 Strings: - db+1,2: b+1+3 reverse the 2nd hit - db+2,2,2: low parry the 2nd hit - b+2,3,4,2: low parry the 2nd hit - db+1+2,2: low parry the 2nd hit - 3~4,3: low parry the 2nd hit or crush it with db+4 - f,f+4,3: b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit - QCF+3+4: duck the last hit for free WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 Others: f,f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Ganryu: ------- b,db,d,df+1 = b+3 SS+1 = 2,1 FC+1,1,1,2,f+1 = uf+4 FC+1,1,1,2,d+1 = FC,df+2 FC,DF+1,2,1 = d+1 or 1,2 (2nd hit is sometimes unreliable) db+2 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 f,f+2 = df+1,2 FC,DF+2,1,2 = 1,2 1+2,1+2 = 2,1 f+1+2 = b+1 f,f+1+2 = 2,1 df+1+2,1 = uf+4 b+1+2 = uf+4 (f,f_FC,f)+1+2 = f+1,2 FC+1+2 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 WS+1+2 = df+1,2 or b+3 df+2+3 = WS+4 f+3 = 2,1 (close) df+3 = FC,df+2 4,3 = 2,1 d+4 = FC,df+2 SIT 2 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 Strings: - df+1,4,1: You can duck the 3rd hit, even if the 2nd connects as a normal hit then punish with a launcher of choice - b+1,1,1: You can SSL the 3rd hit (though you need to be REALLY fast.) - FC,DF+1,2,1: You can b+1+3 reverse the 2nd hit - WS+1+2,1+2: You can interrupt 2nd hit with b+1 for CH stun - df+4,1: You can duck the 2nd hit then punish with a free launcher Others: 1+2,1+2 (both hits) can be reversed with b+1+3 (d_SS)+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 f,f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 WS+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Heihachi: --------- 1,1,2 = uf+4 1,2,4 = 1+2,1 f+1,b+2,1 = uf,N+4 df+1,2 = uf,N+4 d+1,2 = df+1,2 or b+3 f,N,d,df+1 = uf+4 db+2 = uf+4 f,f+2 = b+3 QCF+2 = df+1,2 or b+3 SS+2 = 2,1 f+1+2 = df+1,2 df+1+2 = 2,1 b,b+1+2 = 2,1 b+3,3 = WS+4 f,N,d,DF+3 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 4~3 = uf+3 d+4 = FC,df+2 f,N,d,DF+4 = uf,N+4 {f,N,d,DF+4},N+1 = uf+4 (*) {f,N,d,DF+4},N+4,4 = b+3 FC,df+4 = uf,N+4 WS+4,4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 d+3+4, 1 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 d+3+4, 1,2 = FC,df+2 (*) : after 2 or 3 Hellsweeps, TGF followup is only -12 on block (free 2,1) Strings: - d+1,2: Use b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit - 2,2_2~1: Use b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit - b,f+2,2,1: Duck under the 3rd hit for free launcher of choice Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 b+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 b,b+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Hwoarang: --------- SS+3 = uf+4 db+4 = uf,N+4 uf+4,4,4 = uf,N+4 (f,N,d,df_LFF f)+3~3 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2 f,N,d,df+4 = df+1,2 or b+3 SS+4 = WS+4 LFF b+3 = uf+4 LFF db+3 = WS+4 LFF 4,f+3 = 2,1 LFF 4,4,4,3 = uf,N+4 or FC,df+2 LFF f,N,df+4 = b+1 LFF b,b+4,3 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 LFF b,b+4,4[,4] = 2,1 LFF BT 4 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 RFF 2,b+4 = 2,1 RFF 2,4,3 = WS+2 RFF f,f+3 = WS+4 RFF BT 3 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 RFF 4,3 = WS+2 RFF f+4~4 = 2,1 RFF b+4 = 2,1 LFS b+3 = 2,1 LFS d+4 = uf,N+4 LFS b+4 = df+1,2 RFS d+3 = uf,N+4 RFS b+3 = 2,1 RFS b+4 = 2,1 Strings: - df+3,3_4: Use b+2+4 to reverse both enders - SS+3,3: Duck under the 2nd hit (you must be fairly fast) for free launcher - f,N,d,df+3+4,3: Use b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit - LFF 1,1,3,3: Low parry the 3rd hit. If he does the 4th hit you can duck it and launch - LFF 4,4 strings: Duck after the 2nd hit then WS+1+2 - LFF 4,4,4,3_4: Use b+2+4 reverse the last 4, or block the 3 - LFF d+4,4: Duck after the 1st hit for launcher of choice (you can still duck even if d+4 connects as a normal hit) - LFF b,b+4,4,4: Duck under 2nd and 3rd hits for free launcher - RFF 3,4_f+4: Duck under 2nd hit after blocking the 1st - RFF [2,]4,3_4: Use b+2+4 to reverse both enders - RFF f,f+4,3: Duck under 2nd hit after blocking the 1st for free launcher (you CANNOT duck the 2nd hit after eating the 1st, you must block it) - RFF BT 4,3: b+2+4 to reverse the 2nd hit Others: LFF f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Jack-5: ------- 1,1 = uf+4 (close) or WS+2 or FC,df+2 DF+1,2,1,2 = 1,2 (close) db+1 = WS+4 db+1,{1,1},2 = b+1 b,db,d,df+1 = uf,N+4 HCF,df+1 = b+3 FC+1,1,1,2,d+1 = uf+4 FC,DF+1,2,d+1 = uf+4 WS+1 = 2,1 2,1,2 = uf+4 df+2 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 d+2,1 = WS+4 DF+2,1,2,d+1 = uf+4 db+2 = FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) f,f+2 = df+1,2 or b+3. f~uf+4 can hit too if you're really fast FC,df+2,d+1 = uf+4 FC,DF+2,1,2 = 1,2 WS+2 = 2,1 1+2,1+2 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 f+1+2,1+2 = WS+1+2 df+1+2 = uf,N+4 d+1+2 = uf+4 FC,df+1+2 = WS+1+2 WS+1+2 = uf+4 WS+1+2,1+2 = uf+4 DB+3,4,3,4,3,4 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 db+4 = WS+4 (close) (f_FC,df)+3+4 = 2,1 df+3+4 = f~uf+4 f,f+3+4 = CD,WS+1+2 or anything Strings: - 1,2: duck after 1st hit for free launcher of choice - DF+1,2,1,2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd or 4th hits - FC+1,1,1 strings: Low parry the 2nd hit - DF+2,1,2,1: b+1+3 to reverse 1st or 3rd hits - d+2,1: Low parry the 2nd hit - 1+2,1+2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit - f+1+2,2: SSR the 2nd hit, then punish with uf+4 Others: 1+2,1+2 (both hits) can be reversed with b+1+3 f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 d+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 WS+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 SS+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 f,f+2 is not reversible Jin: ---- 1,3~3,df+3 = b+1 1,d+3 = WS+4 df+1,4~4 = uf,N+4 f,N,d,df+1 = 2,1 WS+1,2 = 1,2 2,1,4~4 = uf,N+4 2,4 = b+1 db+2 = uf+4 db+2,2 = uf+4 b+2,3 = 2,1 WS+2 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 f+3~3,df+3 = b+1 (T5.1 df+3 = uf+4 (close) or f+3:1+2) d+3,3 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 db+3 = 2,1 b+3,4 = FC,df+2 f,f+3,1,3~3,df+3 = b+1 4~3 = FC+3+4 df+4 = uf+4 d+4 = FC,df+2 db+4 = WS+4 (close) or FC+4 uf+4 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+4 = uf,N+4 d+3+4 = uf,N+4 CDS 1 = 2,1 CDS 2 = 2,1 (close) Strings: - 1,2,3_4: Use b+2+4 to reverse both enders - WS+1,2: Use b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit - db+2,2,3: Interrupt 3rd hit with 1,2 or SSL it then punish with uf+4 - b,f+2,1,2: duck 2nd hit for free launcher, or b+1+3 reverse 3rd hit Others: f+1+2 (first hit only) can be reversed with b+1+3 Julia: ------ 1,1,1 = df+1,2 1,1,4,3 = 2,1 1,2,1 (2nd hit blocked) = 2,1 1,2,3 = FC,df+2 f+1 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 f,f+1,4 = 2,1 d,df+1,2 = 2,1 df+2,1 = 1+2,1 df+2,3 = FC,df+2 d+2,3 = 2,1 (d_FC),df+2 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 SS+2,1 = uf+4 WS+2,1,1 = df+1,2 WS+2,1,4,3 = 2,1 WS+2,2,1+2 = 2,1 WS+2,4,1 = uf+4 WS+2,4,d+4 = FC,df+2 1+2,4,b,f+1+2 = df+1,2 b+1+2 = 2,1 1+4,3 = 2,1 f+3,4 = WS+4 df+3 = 2,1 db+3 = FC,df+2 b+3 = FC,df+2 or FC,df+1 f,f+3 = 2,1 4,4,1 = uf+4 4,4,4 = df+1,2 4,4,d+4 = FC,df+2 df+4,2,b,f+1 = df+1,2 d+4,1 = uf+4 d+4,4 = df+1,2 d+4,d+4 = FC,df+2 uf+4 = uf+4 uf+4,3 = uf+4 FC,df+4,3 = uf+4 WS+4 = df+1,2 (close) or b+1 SS+3+4 = f+1+2 CCS 2 = uf+4 CCS 4,4,1 = uf+4 CCS 4,4,4 = df+1,2 CCS 4,4,d+4 = FC,df+2 Strings: - WS+2,4,1: low parry the 2nd hit or crush it with uf+4 - 1+2,4,b,f+1+2: SSR the last hit then punish with uf+4 - 4,4 strings: low parry the 2nd hit or crush it with uf+4 - Counter Clockwise Spin 3,1: SS between hits for backthrow or whatever Kazuya: ------- 1,1,2 = uf+4 1,2,2 = 2,1 1,2,4 = WS+4 df+1,f+2 = b+1 f,N,d,df+1 = f+1 then juggle f,N,d,df+1,3 = df+1,2 f,N,d,df+1,4 = WS+4 WS+1,2 = 2,1 df+2 (far range block) = 2,1 (close) or b+1 (*) b+2,4,1 = df+1,2 f,f+2 = 2,1 f,N,d,df+2 = 2,1 WS+2 = uf+4 f+1+2 = uf+4 (close) or f+3:1+2 or b+3 db+3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 f,f+3 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 df+4,4 = df+1,2 or f+2,2 d+4 = WS+4 b+4 = 2,1 (u_uf)+4,4,4 = uf,N+4 f,N,d,DF+4 = uf,N+4 {f,N,d,DF+4},1 = uf+4 WS+4,4 = df+1,2 or f+2,2 FC,df+3+4 = WS+4 (*) : if you block df+2 at close range Kaz remains safe, you can tell if this happens because a blocked df+2 at clean/close range gives a different animation on guard (Kaz's opponent kinda turns briefly to the side) Strings: - df+1,2_f+2_4: you can duck the 2 and 4 enders. The 4 doesn't juggle you if the previous df+1 didn't hit, so you can at least take the risk with b+1+3 to reverse the other punch enders. (However, as general rule of thumb, you shouldn't reverse unless you can actually see what you're trying to reverse) IF you're really, really good, you can duck the 4 ender, then quickly stand up in order to block (and punish) the mid f+2. - WS+1,2: Use b+1+3 to reverse the 2nd hit - f,N,d,df+1,3_4: You can b+1 after the TGF, if he does 3 the b+1 will CH stun if he did the 4, the b+1 will float (do b+1, 1, f+2,2,2 or something) - b+2,4,1: Duck under the 2nd hit then uf+4, or b+2+4 reverse the 2nd hit - f+1+2,f+2: SSR the 2nd hit then punish with uf+4 - b+3,1,4,1: low parry the 3rd hit King: ----- df+1,2 = 2,1 (if 2nd hit undelayed only) d+1,N+2 = 2,1 (only if d+1 whiffs) ub+1 = f+1,2 (close) f+2,2,2 = WS+4 f,f,N+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 SS+2 = 2,1 (close) FC,df+2 = df+1,2 WS+2 = 2,1 1+2,1 = b+1 f,N,d,df+1+2 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 f+2+3 = WS+4 (only if f+2+3 is blocked at close range) db+3 = FC,df+2 b+3 = f~b+1 BT 3 = uf+4 db+4 = uf+3 or FC,df+1 uf+4 = 2,1 f,f+4 = 1+2,1 f,N,d,df+4 = uf+4 (fast) or df+1,2 d+3+4,[4,4] = uf,N+4 d+3+4 on hit = 4 (close) or b+1 d+3+4,2 = uf+4 JGS df+4 = WS+4 (close) Strings: - d+1,N+2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit (if the 1st is blocked low) - f+2,2,2: Duck under the 2nd hit for free launcher of choice - f,f+2,1: Duck under the 2nd hit for free launcher of choice Others: df+3,4 (2nd hit) is not reversible uf+3 is not reversible f,f+3+4 is not reversible SS+3+4 is not reversible Kuma/Panda: ----------- f+1,1,1 = df+1,2 DF+1,2,1,2 = 1 (2nd hit of 1,2 unreliable) FC,DF+1,2,f+1 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 FC,DF+1,2,d+1 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 WS+1 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 WS+1,2 = b+3 2,1,2 = uf+4 df+2 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 db+2 = WS+4 f,f+2 = f+1+2 b,db,d,df+2 = b+3 FC,DF+2,1,2 = 1 (2nd hit of 1,2 unreliable) FC,DF+2,d+1 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 1+2 = df+1,2 1+2,1+2 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 or b+3 1+2,1+2,1+2 = FC,df+2 f+1+2 = 1+2,1 b,f+2+3 = FC,df+2 uf+3 = 2,1 uf+3,4 = 2,1 uf+3,4,1+2 = uf+4 b+3+4 = f+1+2 or 1+2,1 (f~uf+4 if you're good) uf+3+4 = uf,N+4 HBS 1,2 = FC,df+2 HBS 2 = FC,df+2 HBS 1+2 = f+2,2 (close) or df+1,2 SIT 1 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 SIT 2 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 ROL 2 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 ROL 3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle ROL 4 = d+3+4 Strings: - DF+1,2,1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the 2nd or 4th hit - WS+1,2: You can interrupt the 2nd hit with uf+4 - 2,1,2: You can SSR the 3rd hit while blocking the 2nd - DF+2,1,2,1: You can b+1+3 reverse the 3rd hit - FC,DF+2,1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the 3rd hit Others: b+1+2 and b,f+2+3* (unblockables) can be low parried Law: ---- 1,1,1,1,1 = 1,2 [1,1..,]2,f+2,2 = 2,1 [1,1..,]2,f+2,1+2 = 2,1 d+1 = WS+4 d+1,3 = 2,1 b+1,2,1 = f+3:1+2 or f+2,2 or b+3 uf+1,3 = WS+4 (you can't low parry 2nd hit if you block the 1st) QCF+1,2,1,2 = df+1,2 f+2~1 = b+3 (d_FC)+2,3 = uf+4 db+2,4 = f+1+2 (if Law doesn't stay grounded after the move) or db+3 b+2,3,d+4 = FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 or uf,d+4 f,f+2,1,3 = b+1 SS+2,1,2,1 = CD,WS+1+2 or anything WS+2 = b+3 BT 2,2 = df+1,2 or b+3 3[,3],f+3 = df+1,2 3[,3][,3],4 = uf+4 df+3,3,3 = df+1,2 or f+2,2 df+3,3,4 = df+1,2 d+3,3,4 = uf+4 db+3 = WS+4 b+3 = b+1 (really unreliable, shouldn't be attempted) UF+3,4 = d+2 (close) f,f+3 = df+1,2 FC+3,4 = df+1,2 or b+3 FC,df,d,df+3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle, or FC+2+4 air multithrow (fast) df+4,3 = uf+4 (d_FC)+4,3 = uf+4 db+4 = dash uf,N+4 or FC,df+2 uf+4 = 2,1 UF+4 = df+1,2 UF+4,3 = uf+4 f,f+4 = WS+1+2 WS+4,3 = f+4 / uf+4 ? BT d+4 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 3+4 = df+1,2 or f+4 3+4,3 = uf+4 SS+3+4 = uf+4 DSS/DFS 1,f+1 = b+1 DSS/DFS f+1 = b+1 DSS/DFS 2~1 = b+3 DSS/DFS 2,f+2,2 = 2,1 DSS/DFS 2,f+2,1+2 = 2,1 DSS/DFS 3 = df+1,2 Strings: - [1,1..,]2,f+2,1+2: You can b+1+3 reverse the last hit - d+1,3: You can b+2+4 reverse 2nd hit if you blocked the 1st - 2,2,1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the last hit - b+1,2,1: You can SSR the 2nd hit or SSL the 3rd hit for free uf+4 - b+2,3,4_d+4: Low parry the 2nd hit. If that fails, you can almost always visualize and read the d+4 ender, block and punish it accordingly. - f,f+2,1,3: Duck 2nd hit and punish with uf+4, or b+2+4 reverse last hit - df+3,3,3_4: Low parry 2nd hit. If he does df+3,3,3 if the 2nd hit connects you can still duck (not block) the 3rd, but you risk eating the mid 4 ender which launches. Do yourself a favor and low parry the 2nd hit. - 4,u+3: you can SSR or b+2+4 reverse 2nd hit Others: f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Lee: ---- 1,2,4 = 2,1 b+1,1,2 (non JF version) = df+1,2 or f+2,2 d+3 = uf+4 db+3 = FC,df+2 b+3,3 = 2,1 b+3~3 = 2,1 f,N+3,4 = 2,1 f,N+3,4,f+4 = df+1,2 f,N+3,4,d+4 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 FC,df,d,df+3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle, or FC+2+4 air multithrow (fast) WS+3,3,df+3_(d+3,3) = uf+4 4,3 = df+1,2 4,3,4 = 2,1 d+4 = WS+4 d+4,N+4,3,4 = 2,1 D+4,4,4,4 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2 uf+4 = 2,1 d,db+4 = b+3 b,b+4 = 1,2 FC,uf+4 = uf+4 uf+3+4 = df+1,2 f,f,N+3+4 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle HMS uf+3 = df+1,2 HMS 4 = FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 Strings: - 1,2,4: You can b+2+4 reverse the 4 if it's charged (it's safe to try, since the non charged 4 is jail, so if Lee does 1,2,4 and you try to reverse, you will merely block it for a free 2,1 afterwards). - [1,]2,2,3: You can b+1+3 reverse the 3rd hit, or duck the 4th hit, then punish with a free launcher - b+1,1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the 3rd hit, or duck it then punish with a free launcher - f+2,3: You can duck the last hit, then punish with a free launcher - f+3,3,3[,3,3],4: You can duck the last hit, then punish with a launcher - f,N+3,4,4_f+4_d+4: You can SSL the 4 and df+4 enders (the d+4 will hit you out of the SSL, but it doesn't do real damage, and leaves Lee at BIG frame disadvantage), and then punish the whiffed kick with uf+4. - WS+3,3,df+3_d+3,3: You can either reverse the mid df+3 ender, or low parry the d+3 one. Lei: ---- f,N+1,2,1,2,3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 First hit connected/missed f,N+2,1,2,3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 f,f+2 = WS+4 1+2~2 = 2,1 3 = df+1,2 3,3 = FC,df+2 juggle (eg. FC,df+2, f+1, f+2,2,2) f,N+3,d+4 = WS+4 f,f+3 = f+2,2 f,f+3,4 = b+1 WS+3 = 1+2,1 4~3 = d+3+4,2 or d+1+2 4~4,3,3 = ground throw or db+3 if you eat the previous kick f+4 = uf+4 f+4,2,1,2,3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 d+4 = WS+4 (d+4 into SNK stance is safe) db+4 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) b+4 = f~b+3 if you're good f,N+4,1,2,2,2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 BT d+1 = WS+4 BT 2 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 BT 4 = df+1,2 BT d+4 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) PLD 3 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) PLD 3+4 = b+1 SLD 3+4 = f+3 SLD 4~3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle DRU 3 = WS+4 DRU 4 = b+1 DRU f+3+4 = FC,df+1 SNK 2,2,2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 SNK 1+2 = 2,1 PNT 1 = WS+4 PNT 1~2 = f+1+2 (you automatically stand guard the 2nd hit) PNT 2 = 2,1 TGR 4 = uf,N+4 CRA 2 = backthrow CRA 3,4,2,3 = 2,1 CRA 4 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 CRA uf+4 = 2,1 PHO 3 = df+1,2 Strings: - f,N+1,2,1,2,3_4: You can SSL the 3rd hit while blocking the 2nd; you can low parry the 3 ender, or b+2+4 reverse the 4 ender - First hit connected/missed f,N+2,1,2,3_4: Same as above - f,N+3,4_d+4: You can b+2+4 reverse the 4 or low parry the d+4 - f,f+3,4: You can b+2+4 reverse the 2nd hit - f+4,2,1,2,3_4: You can b+2+4 reverse the 4 ender or low parry the 3 ender - f,N+4,1,2,3: You can duck the 4th hit (it's safe to try, since the alternate string f,N+4,1,2,2 is jail) - PHO 3,3,3,3: After blocking one of the kicks you can interrupt the next one with df+1,2 Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 f+1+2 (first hit) can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Marduk: ------- 1,2,3 = 2,1 1,2,3,1+2 = 2,1 df+1 = 2,1 2,d+1+2 = 2,1 f+2,d+1 = WS+4 b+2 = 2,1 f+1+2 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 df+1+2 = 2,1 d+1+2 = 2,1 db+1+2 = 1+2,1 or f+1+2, ground throw FC+1+2 = 1,2 df+3,1,2,3 = 2,1 df+3,1,2,3,1+2 = 2,1 df+3,df+1 = 2,1 (d_db)+3 = WS+4 (WS_VTS)+3 = 2,1 f+4 = WS+4 df+4 = 2,1 d+4 = FC,df+2 db+4 = FC,df+1 or ground throw FC,df+4 = uf,N+4 Opponent grounded db+4 = WS+4 SLD d+2 = uf,N+4 (after waiting a little) or FC,df+2 Strings: - 1,2,3,1+2: You can interrupt the 1+2 with 1,2 or 2,1 - f+2,1: You can duck 2nd hit, even if the f+2 connects as a normal hit. Keep in mind that he can mixup with f+2,d+1 though. - f,f+1,2: You can SSR the last hit then punish with uf+4, or interrupt the 2 with b+1 for CH stun Nina: ----- [1_df+1_WS+1,]2,1,4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 [1_df+1_WS+1,]2,3 = df+1,2 ((N_df_WS)+1,2,3:1+2 is safe in T5.0) [1_df+1_WS+1,]2,f+1+2 = b+3 (1,2)_f+2,1,2,f+1+2 = b+3 1,4,1 = 2,1 1,4,3 = WS+1+2 or uf,N+4 b+1 = uf+4 (close) or 1+2,1 QCF+1 = 2,1 db+2 = b+3 b+2,2 = uf,N+4 f,f+2 = 2,1 d,df+2 = df+1,2 WS+2 = 2,1 SS+2 = 2,1 (T5.1 SS+2 = uf+4) b+1+2 = 2,1 (WS_f_f,f)+1+2 = b+3 SS+1+2 = 2,1 (close) 3,3,2 = 2,1 3,3,d+4 = FC,df+2 df+3,1,2,f+1+2 = b+3 df+3,2,1,4 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 df+3,2,3 = 1+2,1 df+3,2,d+3,2 = 2,1 d+3,2 = uf+4 (close) or df+1,2 d+3,d+4 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 b+3,4,4 = FC,df+2 b+3,4,3+4 = 2,1 uf+3 = 2,1 uf,d+3,2 = 2,1 uf,d+3,3 = df+1,2 (QCF_f,f)+3 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 (WS_b,f)+3 = df+1,2 ((WS_b,f)+3:1+2 is safe in T5.0) 4,3,2 = 2,1 4,3,d+4 = FC,df+2 f+4,3+4 = uf+4 f+4,3+4,4 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 db+4,3 = f+2,2 UF+4 = 2,1 (d_FC),df+4 = FC,df+2 or uf,d+4 or uf+1+2 SS+4 = FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 (fast) d+3+4 = FC,df+2 db+3+4 = df+1,2 (T5.1 db+3+4 or d,db+3 = b+3) Strings: - [1_df+1,]2,1,4: low parry the last hit - 1,2,1,2,f+1+2 or any string ending in Blonde Bomb: b+1+3 to reverse last hit - 3,3_4: after blocking the 1st hit, duck and low parry if she does the 2nd 3, or punish the ducked 4 with WS+1+2 - f+3: duck under 2nd hit and punish with WS+1+2 - df+3 strings: after blocking the df+3, try to duck right away. If she does df+3,2 or df+3,3 then you'll be forced to block standing. If she does df+3,4 or df+3,1 you'll duck the next hit. If you see she goes into df+3,1,2 then use b+1+3 to reverse the f+1+2 at the end. Be really careful after df+3,2 as she can choose between 3 for DC launcher, 4 to track your SS, d+3 strings or go into a SS. - b+3,4,3+4_4: Three choices: 1,2 or 2,1 can hit her out of the 2nd hit for a small juggle; or b+2+4 reverse the 3rd hit; or duck 2nd hit then launch her - 4,3 strings: low parry the 2nd hit - f+4,3+4_4: duck after 1st hit and punish with uf+4; you can also beat her out of the 3+4 using 2,1 for minijuggle; you can also SSL the 2nd hit, if you're good - uf+4,3,4: low parry the 2nd hit - (d_FC)+4,1: guaranteed FC+2 after blocking her low kick no matter what she does Paul: ----- d+1,2 = b+3 d+1,4 = uf,N+4 {d+1,4},2 = uf+4 b,f+1 = b+1 QCB+1 = 1,2 (close) 2,3 = 2,1 2,d+3 = FC,df+2 f+2,3 = 2,1 f,f+2,1 = 2,1 f,f+2,2 = FC,df+2 QCF+2 = df+1,2 (close) or b+3 FC,df+2,1 = b+3 FC,df+2,2 = FC,df+2 WS+2 = 1+2,1 d+1+2 = uf+4 (close) or f+3:1+2 or f+2,2 (QCF_FC,df)+1+2 = FC,df+2 (close) f+1+4 = uf+4 db+3 = FC,df+2 uf+3 = uf+4 uf+3,4 = 2,1 f,f+3,4 = 2,1 f,f+3,4,df+4 = df+1,2 f,f+3,4,d+4 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 QCB+3,2,1 = b+3 QCB+3,2,2 = FC,df+2 SS+3 = WS+4 d+4 = uf,N+4 non-clean hit d+4:2:1+2 = b+3 uf+4 = 2,1 Strings: - d+1 strings: after blocking the d+1 you can interrupt both followups with 1,2 or 2,1, you can also b+1+3 reverse the mid 2 or block the 4. If d+1 hits you can interrupt both options with WS+4, and if d+1 is a CH you can still block the 4 (but the 2 becomes guaranteed) - 2,3_d+3: Duck after the 2 and punish the ducked 3 or blocked d+3 with the launcher of choice - FC,df+2,1_2: you can SSL after the 1st hit then punish with uf+4. You can keep standing and block or parry the 2 on reaction always. - f,f+2,1_:1_2: you can duck the :1, then stand up QUICKLY to block the mid 1 (also known as "fuzzy guard"), you can also block/parry the 2 on reaction. - f,f+3,4,4_f+4_d+4: You can SSL the 4 and df+4 enders (the d+4 will hit you out of the SSL, but it doesn't do real damage, and leaves Paul at BIG frame disadvantage), and then punish the whiffed kick with uf+4. - QCB+3,2,1_2: Same procedure as with FC,df+2,1_2 Raven: ------ WS+1 = df+1,2 2,3 = WS+4 (close, unreliable) 2,4 = 2,1 DF+2 = 2,1 b+2,2,1+2 = uf,N+4 b+2,2,3 = 1+2,1 QCF+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 b,b+2 = 4 or b+1 (you can duck 2nd hit for free launcher) WS+2 = 2,1 1+2 = 2,1 b+1+2 = 1+2,1 b+1+2,2 = WS+1 or FC+1 b+1+2,3 = WS+4, d+3+4,2 minijuggle 3,3,4 = uf+4 3~4 = 2,1 f+3 = 2,1 d+3 = WS+4 db+3 = WS+4 (ub_u)+3,3 = 2,1 uf+3 = 2,1 f,f+3 = 2,1 f,f,N+3 = 2,1 WS+3 = 2,1 4~3 = 2,1 4~3,1 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 4~3,4 = df+1,2 f+4 = uf+4 d+4 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 df+4 = uf+4 df+4,4 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 or b+3 db+4 = WS+1+2 b+4,b+4,3 = WS+4 uf+4,4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 or b+3 QCF+4 = df+1,2 (backthrow works if you time it right) FC,f+4 = uf+4 (close) or f+2,2 3+4 = uf,N+4 f+3+4 = df+1,2 f+3+4,(N_f)+4 = WS+4 f+3+4,(N_f)+4,2 = 2,1 f+3+4,3+4 = uf,N+4 df+3+4 = d+1,N+2 or perfectly timed b,f+1+2 backthrow QCF+3+4 = uf,d+4 BT f+1 = f+1,2 BT 2,2 = uf+4 BT f+2,4 = b+1 BT 1+2 = 2,1 BT d+3 = WS+4 (close) BT f,f+3 = 2,1 BT f+4,3 = 2,1 BT 3+4 = uf+4 (? not tested it yet.) BT f+3+4 = backthrow Strings: - 2,3_4: Duck after the 2 and punish the 4 with a launcher, or low parry the 3 - 3,3,4: Duck the 3rd kick for any launcher of choice - b+1+2,2: You can SS the 2nd hit to either side Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 QCF+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 d+1+2,d~db~b~ub~u~uf~f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Roger Jr: --------- f+1,2,1,2 = 2,1 df+1,2 (2nd hit undelayed) = 2,1 f,N,d,df+1 = uf+4 d+2 = WS+4 f,f+2 = 2,1 FC,df+2 = 2,1 1+2,3+4 = 2,1 1+2,u+3+4 = uf,N+4 (close) or uf,d+4 or FC,df+2 d+1+2,1+2,2 = b+1 db+1+2 = iWS+1+2 (if done correctly it should launch) (FC_f,N,d,df)+1+2 = f+1+2 db+3 = WS+4 f+4,3 = uf+4 f+4,3,2 = 1+2,1 b+4 = WS+4 uf+4 = 2,1 f,f+4 = 1+2,1 SS+4 = uf,N+4 (close) or uf,d+4 or FC,df+2 3+4 = 2,1 d+3+4 = FC,df+2 or uf,N+4 (close) d+3+4 (on hit) = 2,1 (close) or b+1 d+3+4,2 = uf+4 Strings: - f+1,2,1,2,1: You can SSL the 5th hit - f+4,3,2: You can interrupt the 3rd hit with uf+4 Others: 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Steve: ------ 1,2,1,d+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 d+1 = WS+4 b+1,2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 QCF+1 = 2,1 (QCF+1 into FLK is safe) WS+1,2 = 2,1 2,1,d+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 db+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 d+2 = WS+1+2 or FC,df+2 d+2~N+1,2 = 2,1 uf+2 = 2,1 f,f,N+2 = WS+4 QCF+2 = f+1+2, BT 3 FC,db+2 = FC,df+2 f+1+2 = f+1+2 df+1+2 = b+1 db+3 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 uf+3 = WS+4 uf+4 = 2,1 3+4,d+2 = uf+4 or FC,df+2 3+4,(u_d),1 = f+1,2 3+4,(u_d),d+1 = WS+4 LWV 1,1 = f+1,2 (close) RWV 2 = f+2,2 (close) or df+1,2 DCK 2 = b+1 DCK 1+2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1 = b+1 SWY 1 = 2,1 (close) FLK 1,1,1,2 = uf+4 (close) or b+3 Strings: - 1,2,1,2_d+2: Low parry the d+2 (1,2,1,2 is jail) - WS+1,2: You can b+1+3 reverse the 2nd hit if it's delayed - 2,1,2_d+2: Low parry the d+2 (2,1,2 is jail) - D+2,1,2: You can duck the 3rd hit for a free launcher - db+3,2: You can duck the 2nd hit for a free launcher - uf+3,2: You can duck the 2nd hit for a free launcher, even if the uf+3 hits (you must be fast in this case though) Others: f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 (first hit) can be reversed with b+1+3 Wang: ----- 1,1,1 = df+1,2 df+1,1 = df+1,2 2,3 = f+1 (unreliable) f+2 = 2,1 (close) df+2,1 = 1+2,1 d+2,1+2 = df+1,2 db+2 = 2,1 f,f+2 = b+3 or df+1,2 QCF+2 = b+3 WS+2,2,2 = WS+4 1+2 = b+3 f+1+2 = b+3 df+1+2 = b+3 or df+1,2 d+1+2 = 2,1 df+3 = f+1 (unreliable) d+3 = WS+4 db+3 = FC,df+2 uf+3 = uf+4 4,4,1 = 2,1 4,4,4 = uf+4 4,4,d+4 = WS+1+2 d+4,1 = 2,1 d+4,4 = uf+4 d+4,d+4 = WS+1+2 db+4 = WS+4 db+4,2 = 2,1 or 4 uf+4 = 2,1 SS+4 = WS+4 FC,df+4,3 = df+1,2 or f+3:1+2 or f+4 WS+4 = f+2,2 or df+1,2 d+3+4 = uf+4 Strings: - WS+2,2,2: b+1+3 to reverse 2nd hit, or low parry the 3rd - d+3,4: duck under 2nd hit for launcher of choice, you can still duck the 4 even if d+3 is a normal hit. - 4,4 strings: Low parry the 2nd hit - FC,df+4,3: You can b+2+4 reverse the 2nd hit if you blocked the first Others: f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 df+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 d+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 b,b+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 Xiaoyu: ------ 1,d+2,1+2 = 2,1 df+2~1 = df+1,2 WS+2* = 2,1 f+3 = uf+4 d+3 = WS+4 d+3,4 = b+1 uf+3 = 2,1 (uf+3 into AOP is safe) FC+3,2,1,4 = 1+2,1 or b+3 SS+3 = FC,df+2 db+4 = WS+4 b+4~b (face forward) = f+2,2 (b+4 itself is safe although she ends BT'ed) SS+4 = WS+4 ub+3+4 = b+3 BT 2,1,4 = df+1,2 BT 3 = d+3+4,2 (*) BT d+3 = WS+4 or WS+(basic throw) for backthrow BT d+3~d = WS+4 BT 4 = df+1,2 or b+3 BT f+3+4,3+4 = b,f+1+2 backthrow (fast) AOP d+1 = WS+4 AOP 2 = df+1,2 AOP 2,1 = 2,1 AOP~1+2 = 2,1 AOP 1+2 = 2,1 AOP 3 = FC+4 (lame, but hits) AOP uf+3,3 = df+1,2 AOP uf+3,4 = 2,1 (close) AOP uf,N+3 = WS+1+2 AOP 4 = 2,1 (close) or b+1 AOP 4~3 = FC,df+1 AOP u+4,4 = 2,1 AOP 3+4 = df+1,2 (*): BT 3 is -15 but she ends BT at a distance. None of King's moves (not even long throws) can reach Ling here, besides b+3 and d+3+4,2 (or maybe an uberly precise iSW). I think b+3 can be ducked, but it seems she can't do anything about d+3+4,2...I could be wrong though (maybe RDS low parry?) Strings: - 1,d+2,1+2: b+1+3 reverse 2nd and 3rd hits, or SSR 3rd hit for free uf+4 - f,f+1,3: duck the 2nd hit for uf+4, FC,df+2 or WS+1+2 - FC,df+4,4 and AOP f+4,4: parry 2nd hit after blocking the first Others: 1,d+2,1+2 (2nd and 3rd hits) can be reversed with b+1+3 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 f,f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 RDS f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 AOP 1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 AOP d+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 b+1+2>1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 db+3 and RDS d+4 can be low parried Yoshimitsu: ----------- 1,2 = 2,1 1,2,1 = 2,1 df+1,2 = 1,2 b,b+1~1+2 on hit = 2,1 SS+1 = b+1 2,d+3 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 f+2 = uf+4 DB+2,2,2,2,2 = 1,2 f,f+2 = 2,1 SS+2 = 1,2 f+1+2 = uf+4 b+1+2 = b+3 1+2+3 = f+1+2 or f~b+3 (more reliable) 3,3 = WS+1+2 (*) 3,4 = df+1,2 3,df+3+4 = uf+4 df+3 = 2,1 df+3,1 on hit = 2,1 db+3 = WS+2 or FC,df+2 uf+3 = 2,1 FC,df+3 = uf+4 4~3 = uf+4 f,f+4 = uf+4 f+3+4 (close range) = 2,1 uf+3+4 = uf+4 uf+3+4,3+4 = uf+4 f,f+3+4 = uf+4 f,f+3+4,1+2 = uf,N+4 f,f+3+4,1+2,3+4 = uf+4 INS 3 = uf,N+4 INS 3,3+4 = uf+4 INS 4 = uf+4 FLE 3+4 = b+3 FLE f+3+4 = uf+3 DGF 3 = WS+1+2 (*) : 3,3,d+3+4 gets Yoshi in airborne state, hence launchers won't juggle him WS+1+2 can be handy since it either launches (if he does 3,3), or picks him up (if he does 3,3,d+3+4, you can minijuggle with WS+1+2, df+1,2, d+3+4,2) Strings: - df+1,1,1,1: You can duck the 2nd and 3rd hits then punish with a launcher, or crush the 2nd and 3rd hits with d+1,N+2 - 2,3_d+3: Duck after the 2 and punish the 3 with a free launcher or parry the low d+3 - f,f+3+4,1+2,3+4: You can b+2+4 reverse the 3rd hit Others: b+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 f,f+1+2 can be reversed with b+1+3 +---------+ | Credits | +---------+ "That's because King players r0xaaarrrr" - Solarin, TZ forums Thanks to: Namco - Tekken Tag was awesome, Tekken 4 was horrible, but Tekken 5.1 is actually a good game. Let's hope they keep it the good way. Thanks for reverting King into usable mode again... *razz* Castel - for running his Tekken Zaibatsu site with pretty much everything about the game. People from Tekken Zaibatsu forums (T5 King board): Lil Majin - for being such a great T5 King player, showing us (all the people on the T5 King board at TZ) the combos, juggles, b+1+2~1+3 followups, some VS strategies and such. Plus, he has proven that King ain't an easy match for opponents in tournaments. Yeah even against 5.0 Nina whores! Grim Walker - Helped me a bit with his insights in the move analysis. MarkMan, -KDX-, flipster65, devildoll, APerfectCircle, Iz-Good, combot-killer, Dangerous King, and all the guys at the T5 King board (whose nicknames escape to my mind so please forgive me) for posting all their strats, juggles, and whatnot. Brahma - for telling that King can do f+2+3 backwards. Howling - juggles, tips on making f,N,d,d/f+1+2 safer when blocked among other things. Tiger'sEye, RedKing - they came up with T5 King's frame data and info even before the official sources were out. Tiger'sEye forged several frame traps for the character and a small strat from CH f+3's stun. RVD++ - for posting the complete T5 King's frame data table at TZ forums. silencer017 - for his 1+4 tech traps and missed f+1+2 tech traps. Pretty good stuff man! PrepareforTrouble - I borrowed his "list of 1+2 moves that King can reverse" which he posted at TZ forums. Drake the Demon - for letting me using his King movelist as a base for mine. Check his Tekken 5 movelists with Tekkenomics at the URL: http://acmserver.cs.ucr.edu/~waltonk/tekkenomics/t5_movelists.html The Tekkenfive.com site - for their T5 King combo vid, of which we got most of its combos Kungen, TheDinosaur, Snap - these people taught me how to play TTT King back in the day; I borrowed more tactics and stuff from them than I can imagine. EOF--------------------------------------------------------------------------