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jrmints

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Posted: Jun 17th, 2017 10:40 #1 “Quote” Edit Post

I haven’t played since Tekken 6, but is it still possible to start a multi-throw in one chain, and finish in a different chain? See:
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forum…?postid=3988212

For example, I remember starting with the “Reverse Special Stretch” chain and finishing with the “Mexican Magma Drive 2” chain. You could transition during the backdrop. I haven’t been able to do this in Tekken 7–am I missing something?

jrmints

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Posted: Jul 4th, 2017 19:18 #2 “Quote” Edit Post

Some findings:

First, you can still transfer and extend the “Reverse Arm Slam Combo”

Normal combo: 99 damage/104 damage
Reverse Arm Slam
Backdrop
German Suplex
Power Bomb
Giant Swing/Muscle Buster

Extended: 110 damage(116 wall hit)/115 damage
Reverse Arm Slam
Backdrop
*Cannonball Buster (during Backdrop 2,2,1+2 or 1+2,4,1+2,1+2+3 or 1+2,3,4,2+4 or 1+2,3,4,1+3)
Manhattan Drop (3+4,1+2,1+2+4)
Victory Bomb (1,2,3+4,1+2)
Giant Swing/Muscle Buster

*The last 3 Cannonball Buster inputs are from the “Mexican Magma Drive 2” chain (Sol Naciente and Burning Hammer inputs) and instead of giving you those moves, Tekken gives you a Cannonball Buster.

Second, you can transfer from the “Mexican Magma Drive 2” chain to the “Reverse Special Stretch Bomb” chain by inputting 2,2,1+2 during the Reverse Special Stretch Bomb.

I haven’t tested whether and how the throw mixups change the throw breaks.

The video below demonstrates the above, and some other things too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcZp0ofYJ9g

Ei8hTy SiX

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Posted: Jul 14th, 2017 04:38 #3 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by jrmints
*Cannonball Buster (during Backdrop 2,2,1+2 or 1+2,4,1+2,1+2+3 or 1+2,3,4,2+4 or 1+2,3,4,1+3)

*The last 3 Cannonball Buster inputs are from the “Mexican Magma Drive 2” chain (Sol Naciente and Burning Hammer inputs) and instead of giving you those moves, Tekken gives you a Cannonball Buster.

No.
After a Reverse Arm Slam to Backdrop, only 2,2,1+2 results in Cannonball Buster.

Last edited by Ei8hTy SiX on Jul 14th, 2017 at 04:54

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jrmints

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Posted: Jul 14th, 2017 13:51 #4 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by Ei8hTy SiX
No.
After a Reverse Arm Slam to Backdrop, only 2,2,1+2 results in Cannonball Buster.

I tested these inputs again and they work just fine. I’m playing on PC version, though I would be surprised if that made a difference.

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Posted: Jul 15th, 2017 03:18 #5 “Quote” Edit Post

If those inputs are working for you, you’re getting it to work the same way some people mash 1+2+3+4 and get throws to work. I’m doing perfect inputs with button binds and verifying it with command history.

I made a chart. I thought it might be useful for those learning King’s throw chains. If the page isn’t aligned properly, be sure to go to the menu and select “print layout”.

Tekken 7: King Throw Combos Flow Chart with Breaks

B&W printable version (including damages)

Some throw commands have two options for the input, which makes the break a 50/50 (1 or 2 break depending on input):
-Cobra Clutch
-Reverse DDT
-Reverse Special Stretch Bomb after a Reverse DDT
-Burning Hammer
-Screwdriver

Only a few throw breaks differ depending on what preceded it:
-Power Bomb after Cannonball Buster is broken with 1, but after German Suplex it’s unbreakable.
-Cannonball Buster after Backdrop is broken with 2, but after Special Stretch Bomb it’s unbreakable.
-Backdrop after Reverse Arm Slam is broken with 1, but after Special Stretch Bomb it’s unbreakable.

Reverse Special Stretch Bomb “starter” is a 2 break, except for the Sidestep version.
SS,2+4 gives Reverse Special Stretch Bomb if it grabs the opponent’s front and is a 2 break.
If at the opponent’s side or back it gives Cannonball Buster:
Left side is 1 break
Right side is 2 break
Back is unbreakable.

Last edited by Ei8hTy SiX on Jul 18th, 2017 at 15:16

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Posted: Jul 15th, 2017 10:31 #6 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by Ei8hTy SiX
I’m on Xbox and they definitely don’t work, but it doesn’t really matter.

I made a flow chart though that might be useful for those learning King’s throw chain. It doesn’t include the crouch dash chains (RDC and King’s Bridge etc.).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/…it?usp=drivesdk

I can include the break inputs by color code. Black for unbreakable, red for 1 break, blue for 2 break, purple for 1+2 break or something like that. I haven’t decided. Let me know what you think.

Some throw commands have two options for the input, which makes the break a 50/50 (1 or 2 break depending on input):
-Cobra Clutch
-Reverse DDT
-Reverse Special Stretch Bomb after a Reverse DDT
-Burning Hammer
-Screwdriver

Only a few throw breaks differ depending on what preceded it:
-Power Bomb after Cannonball Buster is broken with 1, but after German Suplex it’s unbreakable.
-Cannonball Buster after Backdrop is broken with 2, but after Special Stretch Bomb it’s unbreakable.
-Backdrop after Reverse Arm Slam is broken with 1, but after Special Stretch Bomb it’s unbreakable.

Reverse Special Stretch Bomb “starter” is a 2 break, except for the Sidestep (SS) version.
SS,2+4 gives Reverse Special Stretch Bomb if it grabs the opponent’s front and is a 2 break.
If at the opponent’s side or back it gives Cannonball Buster:
Left side is 1 break
Right side is 2 break
Back is unbreakable.

The following chain throw breaks are constant:
Reverse Arm Slam is 1 break
German Suplex is 1 break
Manhattan Drop is 2 break
Victory Bomb is unbreakable
Giant Swing is 1 break
Muscle Buster is 2 break
Cobra Twist is unbreakable
Half Nelson is 1 break
Sleeper is 2 break
Triple Trouble is 1 break
Human Necktie is 2 break
Samurai Rock is 1+2 break
Sol Naciente is 1+2 break

The inputs are universal between all the consoles and PC, just a matter of preference. If however you decide to make a guide on it, don’t bother involving Magma Drive 1 in it. It’s just an old remnant from the times before Magma Drive 2 existed. It will always be a weaker choice no matter which you opt for.

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