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Jin's Evil
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
Picked up the latest Arcadia today and seems to have most of Lars' frame data. Along with Lars, there's Bob, Kaz, Lili, Lee, Marduk, Ganny, Yoshi, Roger, Julia, Paul, Jack-6, Bruce, Baek, Raven and Dragunuv -- these characters have frame data for about 20 moves each.

***Edit on Oct. 13th -- Made the thread easier to navigate. Thanks to everyone who helped and thanks to Gou-Kazuya for posting these scans of other characters not listed below.(1)(2)(3)***

Kazuya
Heihachi
Yoshimitsu
Lili
Jack-6
Bruce and Lee
Baek and Bob
Ganryu
Julia
Dragunov
Raven
Roger Jr. and Paul
Marduk
Law

Christy/Eddy thanks to noodalls
Hwoarang thanks to JProdigy
Armor King thanks to azido
Nina thanks to AssassinX
Lei thanks to Ultimat
Leo thanks to AzLaN214


Lars Alexanderson

I list it like this: Move, frames for the move, hit, and guard. Arcadia also lists frame on CH, but I'll only list that if its different from hit.


1,1,1 10 +8/0/-1 +1/-8/-12
1,2 10 +8/+7 +1/-1
1,4 10 +8/+1 +1/-12
2,1,3 10 +8/+4/KD 0/-7/-12
2,1,4 10 +8,+4,KD 0,-7,-7
3 15 +5 -12
4 18 KD -7
1+2 15 +3 (second hit is -3 on CH) -9,-10

f+1,2(3) 13 +3,+3(KD) -8/-8(-12)

SE1 12 KD -10
SE2 22 KD -17
SE3 14 KD -14
DE1 11 +7 -4
DE1,2 18 KD -4/-6
DE2 17 +7 -7
DE1+2 12 KD -10

f+2,1 12 +3/+5 -6/-6
f+2,4 12 +3/KD -6/-12
f+1+2 15 KD -12
f+1+4 13 KD -18
d/f+1 13 +5 -1
d/f+2 15 +4 -9

d/f+3(3) 16 +3 -7(-20)
d/f+1+2 24 +4 +2

d+2 18 +4 0
d+3,1 15 -3/+6 -14/-10/(-18)
d+1+2 24 KD -20

d/b+1,3 -1/-4 -12/-12
d/b+2,1 +3/+6 -8/-6
d/b+2,3 +3/0 -8/-13 (~+8)

d/b+4 21 +5 -20
d/b+1+2 26 +5 -10

b+1 15 +4 (CH +4~+5) -8~-9

b+2,1 16 +4/+3 -7/-8
b+3,4 19 +2/KD -9/+12 (that must be a typo?)
b+4 18 +8 -8
b+1+2 21 KD -11

Unblockable is 80 frames

u/b_u_u/f+3 13(wow -- that must be wong ) KD -21

u/b_u_u/f+4 25 KD -9
f,f+2 21 KD -13
f,f+3 17(18) KD -8
f,f+4,3 20(21) +5/-3 -30/-17

f,f+1+2 15(16) KD -11
f,f+3+4 18(19) 0 -16
f,b+2,1 13(14) KD -12/-16
f,f,f+3 18(20) KD +7~+11

ws+1 15 KD -12
ws+2 13 +2 -9/+2 (don't get this -- don't see a note either.)
ws+2,1 13 +2/+1 -9/-12
ws+3 20 KD +7

FC,d/f+1+2 18 +1 -12

ss+2 25~ KD -8


If anyone has specific requests for certain moves from the other characters listed above, I can probably do a few.


Last edited by Jin's Evil on Oct 15th, 2009 at 16:43

Demonitzu
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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Jin's Evil
If anyone has specific requests for the other characters listed above, I can probably do a few.

Lol, every other character will get requested I'd like to see Yoshi's, please
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Demonitzu
Lol, every other character will get requested I'd like to see Yoshi's, please


Whoops -- I meant to say if you have certain move requests. But why not.

Yoshimitsu

Only 20 moves listed for Yoshi (and anyone who is not Lars). Also, I don't play Yoshi so I don't know his stances. So maybe on some moves you can tell me the stance.

Once again: Move, frames of move, frames on hit, frames on guard.

1+4 6 KD -15
NSS 1+4_FC,d+1+2 8 KD -16
d/f+4 12 +4 -9
d/f+1 13 +5 -6
f+1+2 17 KD -6
d+2,2 16 0/0 -9/-14

u/f+3 15 KD -12
d/f+2,2 16 KD -14

f,f+4 15(16) KD -4

f,n,d,d/f+1 17 KD -15

NSS d/f+2 15 KD -5

b+2,1 15 +2/KD -9/-17
u/f+4 20 KD -9

d/f+1+2,2 25 0/-3 (CH -3/0) -15/-16

ws+1,1,1,1 14 +1/+5/+6/+4 -10/-6/-5/-2
ws+3,2 16 +3/KD -6/-14

KIN f+2 12 KD -13~-14
KIN 2,1+2 21 KD -16/-20

Then there are two listing for 3~4. It's the same move name but it has two different frame data.
17~(18) +4 on hit +4 on CH and -5 on guard and then the same move but:
17~(18) +9 on hit +9 on CH and +5 on guard

If anything doesn't look right, it may be Arcadia's fault, but it's more likely mine as I went pretty quickly. So if a moves looks off, post it and I'll double check.

Last edited by Jin's Evil on Jul 30th, 2009 at 23:27

Aken
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
Kazuya plz
really want to know about his f+3 and ss+3

edit

d/f+3,2,1 as well thx

no need for the whole list if u dont have the time
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
Kazuya please!
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Jin's Evil
Whoops -- I meant to say if you have certain move requests. But why not.

Yoshimitsu

Only 20 moves listed for Yoshi (and anyone who is not Lars). Also, I don't play Yoshi so I don't know his stances. So maybe on some moves you can tell me the stance.

*snip*

Then there are two listing for 3~4. It's the same move name but it has two different frame data.
17~(18) +4 on hit +4 on CH and -5 on guard and then the same move but:
17~(18) +9 on hit +9 on CH and +5 on guard

If anything doesn't look right, it may be Arcadia's fault, but it's more likely mine as I went pretty quickly. So if a moves looks off, post it and I'll double check.

Thank you very much

1+2 is his Kinchou Stance (KIN) and 2+3 is his No-Sword-Stance (NSS). Is the magazine sure 1+4 is -15 on guard? It's lack of reach is painfull enough
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
Kazuya

Requested moves first.
As always:
Move, frames, frames on hit, frames on block

ss+3 is not listed

f+3 19 +5 -13
d/f+3,2,1 18 +9/+5/KD -7/-11/-19

1,1,2 10 +8/+8/KD +1/-1/-17
2,2 12 +8/+6 -3/-10
1+2 12 KD -14
f+4 19 +6 +3
f+1+2, 2 25 KD -10

d/f+1,4 16 -10/KD -7
d/f+2 14 +5 -12
d/f+4,4 13 +2/-4 -15
d/b+3 19 0 -14
d/b+4 20 +2 -11

b+1,2 11 0/KD 0/-14
u_u/f+3 19 KD -9
f,f+3 20(21) KD 0

ws+1,2 13 +7/KD -13
ws+2 16 KD -18
ws+4,4 11 +2/-9 -3/-15

EWGF 11(14) KD +5
CD+4,1 16(18) KD -27/-15
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
Then there are two listing for 3~4. It's the same move name but it has two different frame data.
17~(18) +4 on hit +4 on CH and -5 on guard and then the same move but:
17~(18) +9 on hit +9 on CH and +5 on guard

The one with +5 on guard probably is just 3~4. And the other one must be 3~4,u into Dragonfly Stance
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Jin's Evil
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Demonitzu
Thank you very much

1+2 is his Kinchou Stance (KIN) and 2+3 is his No-Sword-Stance (NSS). Is the magazine sure 1+4 is -15 on guard? It's lack of reach is painfull enough


Thanks, I'll change the stances. And 1+4 is -15 on block according to Arcadia.
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks. Wow... Kazuya got nerfed really bad.

d/b+4 is +2 on hit.

f+3 is i19??? Thought it was i14.

ws+4 is +2 on hit? Thought it was +8 on hit.

The only good thing is that his b+1 is 0 on block.
Jin's Evil
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by moN nihciM
Thanks. Wow... Kazuya got nerfed really bad.

d/b+4 is +2 on hit.

f+3 is i19??? Thought it was i14.

ws+4 is +2 on hit? Thought it was +8 on hit.

The only good thing is that his b+1 is 0 on block.


Double checked those and that's what it says. The magazine is probably pretty close to spot on, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were a few errors.
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by moN nihciM
Thanks. Wow... Kazuya got nerfed really bad.

d/b+4 is +2 on hit.

f+3 is i19??? Thought it was i14.

ws+4 is +2 on hit? Thought it was +8 on hit.

The only good thing is that his b+1 is 0 on block.


edit
shit u r right this suck

f+3 being i19 is just as I expected
and omg 1+2 is -14 on block?? @[email protected]
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Aken
edit
shit u r right this suck

f+3 being i19 is just as I expected
and omg 1+2 is -14 on block?? @[email protected]
What are you going to do now, Aken? I think I'll try Hei or DJ.
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
Big thanks for this Patrick! I can't wait til' I get my copy of the magazine so I can test/play with this data.

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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by moN nihciM
What are you going to do now, Aken? I think I'll try Hei or DJ.


lets hope wd iws+1 still +6f on hit
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
So glad I picked up Lars.

S-S-S-S-SAFE!!!

::EDIT:: This thread is like Ms.Universe or something... here are your scores/frames... you are now part of the final 15/top tier...

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::EDIT:;

Lili please? Specifically:

uf+3
df+3+4
df+2
WS+2
3,2,3
b+1
qcf+1
qcf+2

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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
could you do bruce as well. thx
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
jack6 please and thank you!
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
Steve is not in this months issue.

I'll post Lili now and post a few more requests this evening.

Lili

3,2,3, b+1 and qcf+2 not listed.

Move/frames/frames on hit/frames on block

uf+3 15 KD -12
df+3+4,3+4 23 KD/KD -3/-8
df+2 16 KD -11
ws+2 18 KD -11
qcf+1,2 15(17) -3/KD -14/-14

1,2,4 10 +9/+8/KD +1/-1/-7
2,4 10 +6/KD (just 2 is +7 on CH) 0/-4
1+2 12 KD -12
4,1 12 +7/0 (CH is +7/+1) -4/-1
qcf+3+4 12(14) KD +5

f+4 17 KD -14
d/f+3 21 +8 +3
f,f+4 22(24) +3 -13

ws+4 11 KD -9
FC,d/f+1 15 KD -12
FC,d/f+3 25 -2~+6 -9~-17
ss+1+2 19 KD -3

BT 1,2 9 +3/+5 -3/-3
BT 1+2 14 KD +14
BT d+3,4 18 -4/KD -20/-13

fixed 1,2,3 to 1,2,4

Last edited by Jin's Evil on Jul 31st, 2009 at 20:01

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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
lili's qcf3+4 can not be +5 seeing jabs only trade when I do df2

although the move being i14~ is good to know

BT 1+2 is +14 on block?



I guess this apply to the current jpn version.
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