b+2,1 to see glide can be useful

to be honest I saw the qcf+3+4 one coming. It was really good when it KND/Wallsplats, +6 on block, jails and homing... and I don’t think she has a move that spins opponent around like Nina’s df+1+2 though.

Is b+2,1 to qcf/BT mixups really viable? I have yet to play online in Season 3 so I can't really judge for myself yet.

And yes, this is the first time in Tekken 7 history that Lili gets a ballerina stun move, I think she is the only character who never had one before. Not saying I'm happy about it tho, having to be really close to the wall to wallsplat with it really sucks.

Since we already got the 3, 2, f (which is better in my personal opinion) there was no actual need for this new tool. The ub+1 is very risky and I personally prefer the df+3 that is safe on block... so, useless. The qcf+3+4 nerf is really unnecessary.
D+1+2 is kinda ok, but has no range at all and is very linear. I've already said what I think of the new qcf+2, 1.... so... yeah, quite disappointed :/

Is it just me or does her d+1+2 need some serious hitbox fix? I have that move whiff many times after absorbing an attack that puts the opponent closer to me. Also damn, I was hyped for ub+1 CH combos, but now after playing some matches I fully realize how trash its hitbox is and how even though it is her fastest CH launcher, it still is slow as fuck

ub+1 is a dissapointment... 5- on block... like it'd be acceptable if they made ub+1 as an i14

Uhm... I've been playing with her for a while now and... yup, if compared to the other characters she's been slightly nerfed. Do you think they will fix something in a future patch?

It’s possible to launch from WS+4 but on point though

https://twitter.com/g_pezzi/status/...1449259009?s=21

Lilis f+3 now CH launch’s (to S!)

I think qcf+2 itself is safe on block

There are more changes as of this patch but I can’t tell the other minor ones

f3 now spins on ch

d1+2 reduced the strength of pushback making the move easier to land,

- increased the range of the attack when successfully stopping the opponents attack

b3+4 reduced recovery by 4 frames

qcf2 changed frame advantage when blocked from -10 to -9

Bummed they didnt fix her df1 hitbox though

Last edited by LiliTag2 on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 17:58

Just watched Mihawk's stream. Lili's significant S4 changes are:

new move BT 1,4 - the 4 is also a high so no mixup with 2. So far, its only purpose seems to be for a high damage mini combo off of CH ff+4 that can wallsplat as well. Ballerina spins. Might be screw as well

ub+1 on CH now gives the same reaction as CH df+3. Easier to combo now.

d+3 is now +5 on CH with a different reaction. Although unlike most CH moves, this one doesn't play that loud BANG sound on CH so you have to be looking at the opponent's reaction to know if it's a CH.

All the rest I can recall are a bunch of useless buffs such as changing b+1+2 from -14 to -12 and qcf+1,2~B from -19 to -17 lmao.

Also df+1 is BUFFED!!!

Well, range is still same but they apparently "increased" the lower hitbox. Yet in the stream, CH df+3 -> df+1 still whiffs. Oh well.