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Ayos Mishima

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Posted: Jul 18th, 2017 20:48 #141 “Quote” Edit Post

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Posted: Jul 24th, 2017 06:28 #142 “Quote” Edit Post

Our RD is pretty useless

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Posted: Sep 12th, 2017 15:13 #143 “Quote” Edit Post

what do you think about Knee's TierList? he rated Eddy in A for both deathmatch and tournament Rating. I would realy like to know, why he thinks Eddy is that good, despite the fact that he is beeing nerfed realy hard. He has like no standing punishment until 15f, df2 nerfed to the ground (speed, tracking, hitbox), b1,4,3+4 gone (no biggi), rlx 4~3 nerfed (fucked up risk/reward).

what do you guys think? any inside?

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Posted: Oct 26th, 2017 08:13 #144 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by KINGofIRONfist
what do you think about Knee's TierList? he rated Eddy in A for both deathmatch and tournament Rating. I would realy like to know, why he thinks Eddy is that good, despite the fact that he is beeing nerfed realy hard. He has like no standing punishment until 15f, df2 nerfed to the ground (speed, tracking, hitbox), b1,4,3+4 gone (no biggi), rlx 4~3 nerfed (fucked up risk/reward).

what do you guys think? any inside?

Well, I'll put my 2 cents in on him. Now I've mained the Capos since T4, so I know my Eddy material. As far as T7 Eddy is concerned...

...dude is just trashy.

I don't know how he can be listed that high with all the negatives he has. As someone stated before his evasive properties are downright pitiful and he seems to have a hurt box all the way to the ceiling even when sitting down. He can be floated out of so many things, way more than past iterations. My NEG+3 gets floated by Nina high kick??

Not only that but his tracking and range is short and almost nonexistent. Ive had people side step or trip him out of his uf+4. Yet characters like Asuka, Raven, and Law you can tell the game does its best to ADUST to hitting eddy from somewhere.

And the Holy Grail of Eddy problems people falling out of NEG 4-3 or Slippery Kicks. There are so many times Eddy is right front and center and you see the second hit whiff. Why??? Risk and thats your reward?

This with his low damage and no punishers just makes him a chore to play. For the first time I feel like why bother with him?

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Posted: Nov 1st, 2017 19:08 #145 “Quote” Edit Post

Umm, Eddy got nerfs but also good stuff. imo biggest is d43 for being only -13 on block now. it's super good buff because that move is not launchable anymore against eg. Jin.

jabs into hsp is okay but rage art and armor move are both kinda unreliable especially the art. Imo bottom 5 rage art. rage drive in other hand is pretty good, one of the best ones in game imo.

still, eddy is pretty good imo but not at the top. His standing punishers are so bad, df2 nerf hurts like a motherfucker, bad frames are not so fun and so on. Eddy has to utilize his crushing and it's now even harder than before. still they re valid option.

In tournaments eddy is pretty good.

maybe in B tier.

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Posted: Nov 5th, 2017 06:10 #146 “Quote” Edit Post

I wouldn't say B. High C is more like it. His range on everything is weird and he gets floated out of more things than past Tekkens. His risk vs. reward seems skewed toward the defender in this. Like I said even his regular uf+4 goes through people and can be tripped.

I do agree his RA and RD don't make any sense. Sometimes I feel he was a bit rushed with his

And why the hell is db+2,3 even in our arsenal???

Last edited by FireHazzard101 on Nov 6th, 2017 at 07:42

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Posted: Apr 30th, 2018 14:42 #147 “Quote” Edit Post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okcv2TdRr5s

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Posted: May 2nd, 2018 08:33 #148 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by yoloswag
Umm, Eddy got nerfs but also good stuff. imo biggest is d43 for being only -13 on block now. it's super good buff because that move is not launchable anymore against eg. Jin.

jabs into hsp is okay but rage art and armor move are both kinda unreliable especially the art. Imo bottom 5 rage art. rage drive in other hand is pretty good, one of the best ones in game imo.

still, eddy is pretty good imo but not at the top. His standing punishers are so bad, df2 nerf hurts like a motherfucker, bad frames are not so fun and so on. Eddy has to utilize his crushing and it's now even harder than before. still they re valid option.

In tournaments eddy is pretty good.

maybe in B tier.

His d+4,3 can be launched by kaz WS+1,2, Josie WS+2,1 and of course Eddy himself with WS+1,3 so I don’t know why your saying it’s not launchable

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Posted: Jul 9th, 2018 02:47 #149 “Quote” Edit Post

does anyone think that it's worth putting in time to practice launch punishing -14 moves with ss3+4 on block? so far it seems like it might be worth trying to punish things like dragunovs 1,2,1. it also works pretty well against dj's and hei's pc's if you block deep.

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Posted: Sep 4th, 2018 11:39 #150 “Quote” Edit Post

https://twitter.com/tk_kodee/status...1268575238?s=21

EDDY CHANGES: SEASON 2

Finally b+2 is i14

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Posted: Sep 4th, 2018 20:05 #151 “Quote” Edit Post

Eddy
1,2
• Changed from +4F to +5F on hit.

f+2,1,4
• Opponent closer on block.
• Causes Screw on counter hit.

d [3,4]
• Opponent closer on hit and block.

b+2
• Startup changed from 15F to 14F.
• Changed from -10F to -11F on block.
• Changed from +4F to +3F on hit.

b+1+2
• Changed from -6F to -8F on block.

u/b+3
• Changed to Power Crush.
• Startup changed from 30F to 31F.
• Changed from +3F to -2F on block.
• Opponent closer on block.
• Changed from +5F to +6F on hit.
• Opponent reaction on counter hit and mid-air hit was changed.

u/f+1+2,D
• Transition to crouch removed.

u/f+3+4
• Changed from -13F to -10F on block.
• Recovery on hit decreased by 3F.

f,F+3
• Startup changed from 26F to 24F.
• Causes Wall Bounce on hit.

During sidestep 3+4
• Opponent closer after 1st attack hits.

During Handstand 1
• Changed from -11F to -12F on block.

During Handstand 4
• Damage changed from 10,12 to 5,20.
• Opponent reaction changed on hit.
• Causes Screw on mid-air hit.

During Negativa 2,f+3
• Causes Wall Bounce on hit.

During Negativa 3
• Damage changed from 14 to 12.
• Hitbox expanded downward.

Umm, none of this fixes whats really wrong with him. The bad Rage Drive/Art, people falling point blank out of his moves like NEG [4,3] and SS+4, weird and short ranges, what the hell Harada?????

I mean b4 is cute but really?

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Posted: Sep 6th, 2018 12:45 #152 “Quote” Edit Post

About f+2,1,4
Only 4 on ch will Screw.
I test it today.

HSP,4 now do the same as RLX,4 on hit btw.

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Posted: Nov 11th, 2020 09:58 #153 “Quote” Edit Post

Aaaaaaaaaand 4 season 4...

EDDY IS STILL TRASH!!!

No hurtbox fixes, no moves falling out fixes, frame data is still terrible, no help with range, and everyone else's nerfs and buffs didn't really affect him. He's still one of the worst in the game.

I can't support this game anymore. I went into tears the last match and tore my controller to pieces just trying to make him work when I finally got to Mighty Ruler, to do SOMETHING. But we're not playing the same game as everyone else. I haven't run into any Eddys at all up here since I hit Divine Ruler. Xiaoyu, Alisa, Yoshi, Zafina, even characters like Feng and Bob have so much better evasion and range than him, and I don't understand why he got shit on like this???

And now Kuni, omg y'all we can't do anything. She has a weird hurt box so so many moves of his passed through her and you get trashed for doing the right thing, and she barely has anything punishable that he can reach. She has to mess up badly for him to do something.

This character is completely trash in the higher levels, and its because he's not functioning like everyone else. This game legit cheats him. The realigning of the opponents to ensure they always hit him no matter how he evaded and properly continue combos, or pull them to certain directions so he cant hit them properly and they easily fall out, yet his moves will just stay forward and just go through them. The system is completely not working for him like everyone else and it purposely messing his stuff up, his interactions just don't make sense.

Have fun with this broken mess, there's no point in even trying with him no matter how much you like him.

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Posted: Nov 11th, 2020 11:18 #154 “Quote” Edit Post

Originally posted by FireHazzard101
Aaaaaaaaaand 4 season 4...

EDDY IS STILL TRASH!!!

No hurtbox fixes, no moves falling out fixes, frame data is still terrible, no help with range, and everyone else's nerfs and buffs didn't really affect him. He's still one of the worst in the game.

I can't support this game anymore. I went into tears the last match and tore my controller to pieces just trying to make him work when I finally got to Mighty Ruler, to do SOMETHING. But we're not playing the same game as everyone else. I haven't run into any Eddys at all up here since I hit Divine Ruler. Xiaoyu, Alisa, Yoshi, Zafina, even characters like Feng and Bob have so much better evasion and range than him, and I don't understand why he got shit on like this???

And now Kuni, omg y'all we can't do anything. She has a weird hurt box so so many moves of his passed through her and you get trashed for doing the right thing, and she barely has anything punishable that he can reach. She has to mess up badly for him to do something.

This character is completely trash in the higher levels, and its because he's not functioning like everyone else. This game legit cheats him. The realigning of the opponents to ensure they always hit him no matter how he evaded and properly continue combos, or pull them to certain directions so he cant hit them properly and they easily fall out, yet his moves will just stay forward and just go through them. The system is completely not working for him like everyone else and it purposely messing his stuff up, his interactions just don't make sense.

Have fun with this broken mess, there's no point in even trying with him no matter how much you like him.

I feel for u bud, as a long time chreddy main i get what ur saying.

U have valid points but all il say is i dont believe most players are at that level yet where many of chreddies shortcomings matter. I understand other characters got the better end of the stick than others with the latest patch but not to the point that chreddy or any character cant beat most characters with good fundamentals.

Though Eddy didnt get much, he still has good tools and has slowly gotten better punishing tools over the years.

With his new move b233(finally a damaging wall ender) can also be a good harassing tool with just b23 on its own, its safe, good range, mm, and +5 on hit so u can make ur own techtraps/mix ups.

Im sorry to hear that this patch has let u down, so in the end we should all make sure to play the game for fun.

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