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Lil Majin
Old Post #1 Instant *U/F+1+2 Unblockable is Pos ...
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Posted: Jul 8th, 2005 16:47 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

I was playing against my bro one match when I was at a distance and tried to come in with u/f+1+2. The weird part was that u/f+1+2 came out as Armor King's u/f+1+2~d unblockable with the same speed. The problem is that I don't know how to do it. I've tried many inputs and such, but to no avail.

Fellow King players, please help me to find out how to do this instant unblockable because it could have some valuable use.

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Posted: Jul 8th, 2005 18:22 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Well, I think the first question to ask is this: are you 100% sure the unblockable was different? Did you bro notice it instantly as well? Sometimes I see stuff I think is weird and new, but upon further investigation it's just a normal move with sideturn or something.

If you are 100% sure though, let's see what could help us find out how to do it...

- Did you do a move right before it, or were you completely idle? (could be only after a certain move)
- If so, what move (or moves) could you have done right before it?
- If previous list is too large, what moves are you absolutely sure you didn't do before it?
- What character was your bro using?
- What level was it on?
- Were you in another position than facing forward? Crouching? did you jump before? Back turned? Crouch Dash? Jaguar Step? Near wall?
- Same question but for your bro?
- Are you 100% sure that 1 and 2 are the only two buttons you pressed? Is it possible you hit another button?

I think these questions should help us start on the right track.

Last edited by Iz-GOod on Jul 8th, 2005 at 18:25

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Posted: Jul 8th, 2005 18:43 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

That's a nice start flip. We can dig it!
(I'll be working on that this weekend)

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Grim Walker
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Posted: Jul 8th, 2005 23:44 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Well, I couldn't find it but I *DID* find something wierd.

It seems that if you do U/F+1+2 at the right time druing the 1+2+3+4 you get a funky burning knuckle rather than the normal one. And is it possible theres a damage difference too ??

He here .. take a look. Its a DIVx file. And its got a STUPID filename, cause I couldn't be bothered changing it. But yeah .. here have a look and tell me what you think.

http://www.savefile.com/files/4170814


Edit: The 'animation change' version is the only one that I can guarantee 54 damage for the CH. Any other variation only does the NON ch version.

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Originally posted by Grim Walker
Well, I couldn't find it but I *DID* find something wierd.

It seems that if you do U/F+1+2 at the right time druing the 1+2+3+4 you get a funky burning knuckle rather than the normal one. And is it possible theres a damage difference too ??

He here .. take a look. Its a DIVx file. And its got a STUPID filename, cause I couldn't be bothered changing it. But yeah .. here have a look and tell me what you think.

http://www.savefile.com/files/4170814


Edit: The 'animation change' version is the only one that I can guarantee 54 damage for the CH. Any other variation only does the NON ch version.



IMHO, looks like you found it. then again, I haven't seen the one where Majin is talking about. btw, you have the exact same clothes as I have for that suit.

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Posted: Jul 9th, 2005 15:17 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Grim, I did the same thing last night, was wondering why it looked so strange, lol.

EDIT: I tried doing the UB out of the CD and it seems a little faster than normal, but that's not the Armor King speed I remember back in Tag.

Last edited by Sliced on Jul 9th, 2005 at 15:29

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Posted: Jul 9th, 2005 17:16 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Interesting....

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Posted: Jul 10th, 2005 06:32 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

to be honest, i really don't see a purpose to this move still...even if the start-up were shortened. the moves animation before hit yields enough time to get out of the way before hitting.

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Posted: Jul 10th, 2005 08:56 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Well, since it was done once or twice...we dont know its properties yet...let´s just find it out and see exactly what we get...maybe it tracks, lol

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Lil Majin
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Posted: Jul 10th, 2005 19:40 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

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Originally posted by tribaL
to be honest, i really don't see a purpose to this move still...even if the start-up were shortened. the moves animation before hit yields enough time to get out of the way before hitting.




think about it......ArmorKing had the same move, but didn't have good setups and knockdowns to make it work.

King could do b+1+2~2+4, then the unblockable looks g'teed afterwards for a quick 50 or so dmg.

The move could be useful by walls as well especially if 1+4 is a tech catch.

Grim Walker - I don't think that what you posted is a secret move because *U/F+1+2's animation varies depending on what King does beforehand. For example, if you crouch and then do it, King will stay down b4 jumping, if you sidestep and do it, then King does an identical charge to that of the 1+2+3+4 version (same for sidewalking).

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devildoll
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Posted: Jul 10th, 2005 23:20 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

i have done the version lil majin is talking about(without knowing how) and it is indeed very fast with no delay. i dont think that it is a jf release, if it is then it has got to be one of the hardest shit to do.

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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 00:12 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Just a question for those that seen it..

Does it have the same high obvious arc of the standard unblockable, or is it more along the arc of the "normal" uf+1+2? Cause the latter would be an especially brutal move, hard execution or not.

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Lil Majin
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 00:32 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Hit - It's the same unblockable as Armor King's. Thus, he jumps extemely high.

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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 01:09 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Figure that shit out

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Grim Walker
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 01:46 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

$#%@ atleast we found a bonus move.

I still can't nail this shit ... I really don't have a clue exept maybe someone can rembember what they wer doing before hand? Whats your play style? Its entirely possible you buffered it accidentally while doing a sidestep?

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devildoll
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i just messed around with it a bit more and found a way to pull it off more consistently. if you can do zangiefs spinning piledriver it should be fine.

heres how i did it

hold F for king to take 2 steps then from there do a full circle backwards and end it at u/f while holding 1+2.

the jump of it seems to look a lot faster than the normal version. making king take 2 steps seems quite impratical. im sure there are other ways cuz i have done it with king standing still.

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I got it once today.
I was mashing something around b,u/b,u,u/f. I think I did a fast movement through that area and it came out...it´s indeed way faster than the normal version;

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Iz-GOod
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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 03:31 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

FINAL EDIT: Best way right now is u,u/f+1+2*. Check my next post for more info.

HOLY CRAP!!!

OK, I was just screwing around with what the last people said, doing mostly hcb,N,u/f+1+2 and I did notice it was faster a few times, then something FREAKY happened.

King did the unblockable, at the same height as the normal blockable u/f+1+2, BUT IN SLOW MOTION. It was weird as hell....

EDIT: Try doing u/b~u~u/f+1+2 I think that's what it is. Could be b~u/b~u~u/f+1+2 also... or maybe just u~u/f+1+2. Up to now I got the quick one about 10 times, the uber weird slow one only twice. I also noticed sometimes the quick one is just quicker, sometimes it's instant.

EDIT2: I got the weird slow one again, turns out it's the normal 35dmg blockable version, but just 5 TIMES SLOWER. and I'm not exaggerating, King looks like he's on the moon when he's doing it.

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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 03:54 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

I've been getting it almost always now, I think I know what's causing it.

You know when you press u, u/b or u/f, King kind of crouches for a few frames, then hops? Well there seems to be a bug where if you press u/b or u, then just as he finishes his little crouch (before he hops) if you press u/f+1+2, you'll either get the instant unblockable or the uber slow blockable. Up to now, the easiest way I find is to do u/b~u~u/f+1+2*. But if you're having trouble with that trick, try u/b~N~u/f+1+2*.

This definitely looks like an unintentional glitch to me. Seems like the game thinks he should be jumping right away instead of waiting on the ground, since the crouch before the hop is done.

EDIT: I'd been trying it out with my stick, but I tried with pad and u~u/f+1+2* seems to be a great way to do it. Sometimes leaving a few frames between the u and u/f helps, you might see King do his little crouch. The fastest one you won't even see him crouch. Also, I'm almost sure the non-crouch one is guaranteed after b+1+2, 2+4.

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Posted: Jul 11th, 2005 04:35 Edit/Delete PostReply With Quote

Good Job, man. Finally got it.

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That sounds awesome. Maybe not terribly useful, but you can totally freak out your opponent with the super slow on the moon uf+1+2.

You see, that's the kind of badass king is. Even gravity bows to his might!

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Grim Walker
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OK LADIES, GENTLEMEN, I got on vid, kings super slow mo knuckle bomb. I'll make a point to be moving the other character around so that it proves I haven't edited it .. just got it on command capture. About to capture it and post it.

Heres the link.

< to be inserted here > ( filehosting service is down, I'll be happy to give the 8mb file to anyone who wants it till this damn thing is back up, or if someone can host it )

Oh the reason I had to change it to controler was because the first time I changed it to controler I pressed 'start' or 'select' or something and it didn't save it. So I had to change it again. Just incase your wondering.

The best way to do this is u/b, u/b~u~u/f+1+2

Yes it is really a glitch. Yes it is really real. No there is no video tricks.

This is NOT the unblockable knuckle. This is king, doing the u/f+1+2 but doing it in super slow motion. It does normal damage. Infact it hits asuka and I can actually JUGGLE king after getting up because hes still in the air when I do so. AFTER getting hit.

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good work guys, you finally found it, and found another one by mistake! I personally thnik I'm gonna use them all, meaning the normal one, the fast one, and the uber slow one, sounds good for the confusion. with the slow one, how long doeshe remains in the air? 1~2 sec?

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good work guys, you finally found it, and found another one by mistake! I personally thnik I'm gonna use them all, meaning the normal one, the fast one, and the uber slow one, sounds good for the confusion. with the slow one, how long doeshe remains in the air? 1~2 sec?

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Grim Walker
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Haha wait till you see the vid, when I said he goes 'in slow motion' I mean .. he goes in SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW motion. Like, wow slow. I've gotten it lots now, its awesome on backrollers it looks so funny.

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