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patzeram
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This is hardly an important topic but in the past they had some threads about CPU killer tactics so I thought it may be fun to see what tactics worked for Tekken 7 season two.

For example Feng's DF+2, 2 was easy. Jin or DJ's D+1 followed immediately by 4~3 was simple. Steve's 3+4 followed by 2 from I guess around range 2 or more works.

I think DJ's Fly f+1+2 works also, at least in the past. Asuka's f+3 and hold used to work. Lee's D+444 used to work on many until the higher levels. Yoshi's ff+4 used to work. Jack's b+2 used to work.

If nothing else you can get easy money to have some costumes or accessories for your characters.

Not sure if these moves work anymore but it is amusing to see which ones baffle the CPU.

This is mainly for Treasure Battle by the way.

Last edited by patzeram on Jan 21st, 2019 at 20:16

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CHANG39
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OR...

1-Pick Akuma
2-Spam fireballs
3-?????????
4-$PROFIT$

Seriously its so amusing seeing the AI get bamboozled by something so easy to maneuver.
patzeram
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Originally posted by CHANG39
OR...

1-Pick Akuma
2-Spam fireballs
3-?????????
4-$PROFIT$

Seriously its so amusing seeing the AI get bamboozled by something so easy to maneuver.

I have to try that with Akuma.

I used to see Spero Gin on time attack use a Paul move and follow with Paul's unblockable. The AI would just get hit. Forgot the move he used to set up the unblockable.

Last edited by patzeram on Oct 30th, 2018 at 19:41

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M0B
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CPU has major problems against any forward motion move. I assume they are programmed to fish for counter attacks if you move forward or something Idk. Either way, that woks with lee as an example:

f+2,1 ...
if hit = f+3+4 guaranteed (they never backroll) and then FC d/f+4 ...
if blocked = micro dash and f+2,1 again

after FC d/f+4 you only have to react if they quickroll or stand up straight and short dash f+2,1 again.
After 2 reps of f+2,1, f+3+4, FC d/f+4, a simple slide or f,f+3 usually ends the round.

I only lost once or twice in 500+ matches duo to turbo matches and me trying to have fun with juggles haha.
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On TTT2, I know of two sure-fire ways to get to 999 wins for Survival Mode.

Paul: d+1, 2 (charged), then unblockable

Baek: Spam d/f+1,3~LFS, d/f+1,3~LFS, repeat repeat repeat
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If there's a tekken game I never liked those were the likes of tekken3 and 5, and it brings me big pain having to admit it, but indeed tekken5 (ps2 version) had best AI in the series imho. I mean.., best AI or best cheating AI it had?

Tekken 4 on nightmare had also kinda nice AI even in the first combat.
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I think the best AI was for Tekken 5 DR on PSP.(Since it kinda improved the AI of 5.0 where you could just defeat everyone with Asuka's charged kick which they never try to counter)
patzeram
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Originally posted by Fernandito
If there's a tekken game I never liked those were the likes of tekken3 and 5, and it brings me big pain having to admit it, but indeed tekken5 (ps2 version) had best AI in the series imho. I mean.., best AI or best cheating AI it had?

Tekken 4 on nightmare had also kinda nice AI even in the first combat.


Playing Jinpachi on Tekken 5 was very tough.
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patzeram
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Originally posted by DG.PRO
I think the best AI was for Tekken 5 DR on PSP.(Since it kinda improved the AI of 5.0 where you could just defeat everyone with Asuka's charged kick which they never try to counter)


Tried Asuka's F+3 (hold) and it doesn't work anymore for Tekken 7 Second Season.
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by patzeram
Playing Jinpachi on Tekken 5 was very tough.
yes but Jinpachi, and I guess you're talking ps2 version not psp was straight away cheating to the root. He's still the hardest boss in the series (ps2 version) but only because of 100% cheat against player. Needsless to speak about his damage buffs and roflcopter stomp-counter.
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patzeram
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by chewbacca
On TTT2, I know of two sure-fire ways to get to 999 wins for Survival Mode.

Paul: d+1, 2 (charged), then unblockable

Baek: Spam d/f+1,3~LFS, d/f+1,3~LFS, repeat repeat repeat


I didn't know Paul's move was charged, then the unblockable. Thanks.

Originally posted by M0B
CPU has major problems against any forward motion move. I assume they are programmed to fish for counter attacks if you move forward or something Idk. Either way, that woks with lee as an example:

f+2,1 ...
if hit = f+3+4 guaranteed (they never backroll) and then FC d/f+4 ...
if blocked = micro dash and f+2,1 again

after FC d/f+4 you only have to react if they quickroll or stand up straight and short dash f+2,1 again.
After 2 reps of f+2,1, f+3+4, FC d/f+4, a simple slide or f,f+3 usually ends the round.

I only lost once or twice in 500+ matches duo to turbo matches and me trying to have fun with juggles haha.

Thanks I'll try that.
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patzeram
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Fernandito
yes but Jinpachi, and I guess you're talking ps2 version not psp was straight away cheating to the root. He's still the hardest boss in the series (ps2 version) but only because of 100% cheat against player. Needsless to speak about his damage buffs and roflcopter stomp-counter.


When I first encountered Jinpachi he kind of scared me. LOL!

Found an easy spam with Lucky Chloe, just use DB/4, 4. Just hold D/B and mash 4. Once you hit the first low, it's over almost all the time. You get a lot of perfects.
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Sorry my religion forbids not only picking things like Chloe but also looking at it or pretending it even exist. Thanks for tip though..
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patzeram
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Originally posted by Fernandito
Sorry my religion forbids not only picking things like Chloe but also looking at it or pretending it even exist. Thanks for tip though..


I understand.
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patzeram
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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
With Jin D+1 still always hits but you canít follow up with 4~3 anymore

With DJ the sequence of D+1 followed by 4~3 still works.

I would guess the Fly F1+2 still works but Iíll check.
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patzeram
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
With Steve, always open with the Sonic Fang (DF 1+2) which almost always hits in Treasure Battle. Backdash and as the CPU comes at you, do ALB 2 (3+4, 2).

You can mix it up with ff+2 at times.

For the air combo only level the AI recognizes the Sonic Fang as an air juggle oddly enough so you can spam that.

Also if youíre ahead in the Air Combo Level and youíre knocked down, just stay down since the CPU can only get points if itís an air juggle.
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patzeram
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
For Marduk, db+2 seems to hit most of the time in close or further away to drive the cpu back. On counterhit you can get a juggle.
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