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Shihan
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
NEW MOVES

- f2,3
- d/b 3,4
- [Snake] 1
- [Snake] 2

DISCUSS
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Xil_Jam333
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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
Kinda meh on this one. f+2,3 and db+3,4 are two of his existing moves mashed together. But he's already strong enough, so...

I wonder what's snake-in 1 and 2 though. Looks like it's gonna be useful for juggles or snake-in mixups. I assume one of them will do the hard spike on airborne, and the other for wall carry.

Are there more changes to him other than new moves?
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Shihan
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
There has been minimal coverage for Shaheen in the FR build, most players continue to use the same 'copy-and-paste' tactic in the pre-FR days: 4,1 then d/f+1 then 4, 1 again, slip in the occasional d+4 and launch.

4,1 still seems to jail on block though from the videos I've seen. I suspect he seems roughly the same in this build, which is good since he was already quite stellar in the original build.
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LJE
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
I noticed ws33 has less pushback on block. Don't know if it's still -15.

41 already doesn't jail in vanilla and it will definitely not be jailing in the final version.

His RD changed from db21+2 to db24.

Last edited by LJE on Jul 4th, 2016 at 13:26

Xil_Jam333
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
Regarding his rage drive input change, is it still the same move? It's kinda weird you input a 4 for a "punch" move. And is his rage drive still his db+2,1 with snake in cancel?
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LJE
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Definitely not a punch. I haven't seen it though. Yes. db24 df snek in transition.
Xil_Jam333
Fujin
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
https://twitter.com/_nieruwa/status/750226530186375168

uf+4, d+2, 4,1, 4,3 doesnt work anymore

https://twitter.com/_nieruwa/status/750225565529935873

ws+3 no longer hits grounded

RIP Shaheen
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PendaS
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
Indeed RIP Shaheen.

Completely fine with ws3 not hitting grounded,but the first change wasn't necessary. His damage will be significantly lower now.
Xil_Jam333
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah, 4,3 not hitting in that combo is so unnecessary.

f+3+4~ws+3 as combo ender still works, but only on opponents trying to tech roll. But since ws+3 doesn't hit grounded anymore, they will have no fear of getting hit by that move and will just stay on the ground, thus said ender wouldn't work.

So... f+3+4, b+4 maybe?
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Xil_Jam333
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
ws+2 new reaction: opponent falls on their knees, still juggle guaranteed
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PendaS
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
Any footage of snake 1 and snake 2?
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks
Aminegriffy
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
Shaheen nerfs aren't that bad at least his new f23 jails and only -12 on block. Also it seems he got a new staple combo and it seems that the combo potential of it is just as a good as the old one. I think the combo is launch 3 df snake in 2 f244 S!
Mr. NO!
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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Xil_Jam333
https://twitter.com/_nieruwa/status/750226530186375168

uf+4, d+2, 4,1, 4,3 doesnt work anymore


maybe uf4, df1, 41, 43 works?

Though I dropped d2 for df1 a long time ago just cuz it was always most consistent
Xil_Jam333
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
https://youtu.be/LcS8LuJAjiw?t=1h21m29s

apparently, df+2, d+2, 4,1, 4,3 S! still works
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Shihan
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Seems like the new Snake moves are just fast hitting mids. I suppose it gives the stance some more use outside of combo enders.

d/b+3,4 is a new wall carrier though I'm not sure if it will be a consistent one after long combos. Not that safe on block either.
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FFwNayrith
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
How does Shaheen fair after these changes? still top tier or slightly lower?
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Aminegriffy
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by FFwNayrith
How does Shaheen fair after these changes? still top tier or slightly lower?


He hasn't changed much whilst he got some nerfs in the combo damage department he also got some buffs and his combo damage is still up there. he is just a little outclassed by how broken Akuma.

Shaheen is still top tier in my opinion.
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Shihan
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
Arabian Sugar Daddy is doing just fine if not better.

His nerfs were reasonable to some extent, he was a bit too dumb in T7.0. If anything, I just hope they make the Snake transition a bit faster like how Miguel's SAV stance was made almost instantaneous in TTT2 from his T6 counterpart.
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