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Azaael
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I decided to go ahead and open this now, since the other thread has like a page left on it and is so convoluted at this point it's probably better to just clean it up.

I'll sticky this, if it shouldn't be stickied a senior mod can overrule and unsticky it.

Going to list the known PDF changes here, gleaned from ATP and Wonkey's twitter. Thank you Wonkey for translating these, makes copying them over easier.

It's going to take me a little while to get them all in so bear with me.

ATP PDF Links:

http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/ne...des-charac.html

Note things are subject to change with patches and the like, I'm just putting stuff in the PDF for now. Can always adjust as well after the 5th, too, when we see it in action. I assume this move list is for the arcade version that's getting released in four days.

Also: If folks check their pdfs, the new moves are in yellow, and also make sure to notice or not if there are S!'s or H!'s or anything like that where they weren't before. Also if folks notice missing moves, we can update the first post with those changes as well. The master list is a WIP for now. So please list any other changes you notice(and of course that we notice in arcades), and we can update.

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Jin:

New
Rage Drive cd+1+2,3,1
Screw & Homing: Mental Alertness 3 (mid)


Bryan:


New
Rage Drive b+1+2 (mid, EX b+1)
"Crash Impact" d/b+1+2 (mid,high)
Screw: "Northern Cross" fc d/f+4 (mid)


King:

New
Rage Drive d/b+1+2 (mid)
wr+3 (mid)

Hwoarang:

New
RD d+3+4,4 (low,mid,mid)
RD u/f+3,4,3+4 (m,m,h,h hunting hawks)
Baek's b+1 (mid)
Screw: u/b+3,3 (mid,high goes into Left Flamingo)
u/b+3,4 (mid,mid goes into Right Flamingo)

Leo:

New
Rage Drive ff+2 hold. (mid)
Screw: u/f+1,1 (high,high)
u+3+4 (mid)

Steve

New
Rage Drive d/f+3+4,1+2 (can be done from flicker and peekaboo)
u+2_u/f+2 (mid)
ws+1,1 m,h, can go into PKB/Sway/FLK

Law:

New
Rage Drive d/b+4,3+4 low, high
Screw: 3+4,4

Paul:

New
Rage Drive qcf+1+2 (mid, EX Deathfist)
b+2,1 (mid,mid can also be charged)

Feng:

New
Rage Drive b+1+2 Hold (mid,buff version of shoulder)
fc d/f+2 (mid, johnny cage nut punch)

Xiaoyu:

New
Rage Drive: BT d+3,3+4 (low,mid, goes into AOP)
Screw: b+4,4 (mid,high)
Screw: BT d+3,4 (low,high)

Alisa:

New
Rage Drive & Screw: f+2+3,3+4 (mid,mid,movement)
f+2,1 (mid,mid)
f+3,1+2 (high,mid)

Jack:

New
Rage Drive Debugger,2 (low,mid)
Screw: d/f+1,1 (mid,mid)
b+1 (mid)

Lili:

New
Rage Drive d/f+3+4,3 (mid, high)
u/b_u_u/f+2 (mid)
Homing: qcf+2,1 (mid,mid)

Lars:

New
Rage Drive SE 1+2 (mid, can push b+2+3 during it?)
DE 3 (mid)
NOTE on his PDF, his b+1 is coming up as S! again.

Asuka:

New
Rage Drive ff+1+2, mid.
d/f+3, mid.
ff+2,3, mid, mid.

Heihachi:

New

Rage Drive b+2,1+2 (b+2 into headbutt)
d+1,2 (mid,mid)
Screw: bf+2,3 (mid,high)

Kazumi:

Screw: 3,1 (high,mid)
FLY b+1+2 (throw, can't be broken)
Rage Drive ff+1+2

Gigas:

He can now cancel out of his Set-up Golem charge by pushing u/b.

ff+4,2 (m,h)
ws+3 (m)
Screw attack: ss+2 (high)
New
Rage Drive f+3+4~F hold. Unblockable
2,1,3+4 (h, h, Stance)
f+2,d+1,3+4 (h, m, movement)
GOL 1+2 (m)
d/f+3,1 (m,h)

Josie:

New
Rage Drive cd+3+4
f+4,3 (mid, mid)
d/b+2 (mid)
b+1,2,4,4 (high, mid, mid, high)

Shaheen:

New
Rage Drive d/b+2,4~D/F
f+2,3 - high, high
d/b+3,4 - low, high
Snake in 1 (high), 2 (mid)

Lucky Chloe:

New
Rage Drive d/f+3+4, timed 1+2. Can be done from fc.
2,2
2, timed 3 (high, low)
d+3+4, timed d+3+4~F
Eddy's ff+3
ss+4

Katarina:

New:
Rage Drive - Harrier 1+2
d/f+3+4
d+2
d+2~f (Harrier)

Nina:

RD notation change: WR+1+2 to f+2+3~df.
New moves:
3,3,4,3(changed from 3,3,4)
4,3,4,3(changed from 4,3,4)
Screw: f+2,1,4
d/f+3,2~d/f
d/f+3,2~d+3,4,3(changed from d/f+3,2,d+3,4)
wr+1+2
WS+1,4(mm)

Removed?(Need conformation):

1,4,3
3,3,d+4
4,3,d+4
d+3,d+4
u/f,N,D+3,3



Claudio:

Rage drive b+4,2~ff cancel.
New u/f+3+4 double knee move.
New STB d+1,2 screw attack.
New STB d/b+1+2, unblockable mid.

Devil Jin:

Rage Art b+1+2 new animation
Rage Drive cd+4,3+4 Hellsweeps.
b+1+3_b+2+4 parry is now a power crush?

Dragunov:

Rage Art d+1+2 new animation.
Rage Drive fff+1+2, d/b+1+2. Can cancel tackle.
New Screw move - f+3,2
SS+3+4, new ability called 'Rolling Escape.' Can basically do the roll from the tackle from a plain sidestep instead. No idea of properties but I'm guessing it's going to be evasive.
(ALSO, since I've been paying a lot of attention to him, his PDF has f,f+3 as S!, and WS+1,2 as S! as well.)

REMOVED(in 7.0, remain gone in FR):

Extensions to 1+2, which is his Power Crush now.

Akuma:

Newly added moves:
EX d,d/b,b+3+4 (screw, homing)
1,1
f+4 (screw, homing)
d/f+1,1
d/f+1,2
d/f+2,1
d/f+3
d/f+4
d+1,2
b+1
b+2
b+3
f,f+2
f,f+4
f,f,f+1
f,f,f+3

Adjusted input:
3 > f+3

Adjusted move:
WS+4 > WS+4,4

Removed moves:
FC,1
FC,2
FC,3

Last edited by Azaael on Jul 2nd, 2016 at 12:08

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So, looking at Kazuya's move list, it shows that b+4 is a new move. But, wasn't that a new move in T7?
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great thread
hope to see some frame data in the future
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
AKUMA

Newly added moves:
EX d,d/b,b+3+4 (screw, homing)
1,1
f+4 (screw, homing)
d/f+1,1
d/f+1,2
d/f+2,1
d/f+3
d/f+4
d+1,2
b+1
b+2
b+3
f,f+2
f,f+4
f,f,f+1
f,f,f+3

Adjusted input:
3 > f+3

Adjusted move:
WS+4 > WS+4,4

Removed moves:
FC,1
FC,2
FC,3
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Azaael

Nina:

RD notation change: WR+1+2 to f+2+3~df.
New moves:
3,3,4,3
4,3,4,3
Screw: f+2,1,4
d/f+3,2~d/f
d/f+3,2~d+3,4,3
wr+1+2

New move:
WS+1,4

Adjusted input:
f+2,1,1+2 > f+2,1,2
d+1,N,4 > d+1,4

Adjusted move:
3,3,4 > 3,3,4,3
4,3,4 > 4,3,4,3
d/f+3,2,d+3,4 > d/f+3,2,d+3,4,3
u/f,N,D+3,4 > u/f,N,D+3,4,3

Removed moves?:
1,4,3
3,3,d+4
4,3,d+4
d+3,d+4
u/f,N,D+3,3

Last edited by Demonitzu on Jul 1st, 2016 at 16:45

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Looks like Kazumi's FLY stance is a little bit more intimidating now. And it gives reason for opponents to duck. It should do well in compensating for the fact that her lows aren't scary.
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by satch89
So, looking at Kazuya's move list, it shows that b+4 is a new move. But, wasn't that a new move in T7?


Old b+4 was moved to f,f+4. The new b+4 is a high homing move.


Xiao's BT screw move should make for an easier full combo out of standing 3.
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Azaael
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I'm really looking forward to playing with Drag's two new S! moves. f,f+3 is one of his most powerful single strikes; it's tied with 3+4 in damage, frontload fucking city. I'm not sure what's going on with WS+1,2 at all yet. Is it S! only in a combo! On the ground? No idea. All speculation right now of course. Not enough is known.

Also the fact you can do what seems to be the inescapable tackle following a blocked Rd, but you can cancel the tackle as well. Speculating that if one blocks the RD, he's then at +5 and it's mix up time with the person having to guess if they face down an inescapable tackle or not.

I'm also laughing at the fact that by giving him his roll out of a SS(rather than having to tackle to do it, he can still cancel the tackle into the roll), they basically gave him the Dark Souls roll

As for adjusted inputs and such, should we list these separate? I'll adjust the top with some more new moves soon.
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Xiaoyu :

New
Rage Drive RDS d+3,3+4 [low,mid] goes into AOP, NC, the second hit gives an instant S! launch
Screw: RDS d+3,4 [low,high] her old Rage Drive is now her S! move from RDS, it W!, doesn't jail, hit confirmable NCc (old RDS d+3_D+3 gone)
Screw: b+4,4 [mid,high] now causes S! in juggles, W!, NC, doesn't jail on block

And there's a problem with Kazumi's new 3,1 (high,mid) her standing 3 is supposed to be mid... She has 3,2 [mid,high] and 3,1 [high,mid]???
Azaael
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PDF typo on one of them, perhaps. The PDF indeed has them as 3,2(mid high) and 3,1(high mid).
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Gigas seems like gonna be higher tier with all those buffs. Thats good news


TO AZAEEL

Macnuzzz said that Jins EWHF and Leos BOK3 dont give S! because they dont give SS in combo's.

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It gives instant S! right? It just doesn't S! in juggles?
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Thats what he means I suppose.

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I wonder how usable Dragunov's f,f+3 is in combos because it's hella slow (unless they changed its animation). Really thrilled to see Leo receiving a new S! move as well.
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I've seen f,f+3 used from time to time now actually. Hell I've seen it land after a b+1,2, S!.
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Yeah, but there's not much use for it as a S! move if you can only connect it post-S!
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Oh this is a lot of 'wait and see'. I have a few combos jotted down that use it. I mean who knows what sort of hitboxes changed and whatnot. I can't see them throwing S! on moves randomly.
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Probably bigger hitbox for ff3 of Drag like they did with Dvjs ff4
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Devil Jin's f,f+4 is 4 frames faster, though. I guess we'll just have to wait until the 5th to find out. I'm really excited to see all these changes.
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