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Zhockwave Zc
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
I'm talking about situations where the Feng player has done the allowed 6 hits or even fewer but b+1+2 has still whiffed. Feng's combos in general are not very reliable, which I guess is why people are only using the same two combos over and over.


Urghh~Srsly?I see....Maybe the timing of f+3,4 can be adjusted to somehow let b+1+2 hit consistently. Like ssr or left after a screw or delaying it ~
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
f+3,4 is actually also inconsistent. When you S! with f+1+2, you have to SSR before doing f+3,4, f+1, f+3,4 but even then the second f+3,4 whiffs sometimes. No idea what exactly causes these random drops but it seems to happen a lot with Feng, probably more than with any other character. I guess that discourages people to try anything fancy with Feng's combos and that's why we only see those basic staples.
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Zhockwave Zc
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
f+3,4 is actually also inconsistent. When you S! with f+1+2, you have to SSR before doing f+3,4, f+1, f+3,4 but even then the second f+3,4 whiffs sometimes. No idea what exactly causes these random drops but it seems to happen a lot with Feng, probably more than with any other character. I guess that discourages people to try anything fancy with Feng's combos and that's why we only see those basic staples.


Lol if it's that then I think the reason would be becuz the SSR isn't accurate or how to put it.... not long right enuf? LOL I sometimes would drop it too when I didn't ssr enuf ~

Yeah mann.... Namco shud make Feng's combo easier..... his combo dmg is already lower than normal casts now this shit?
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
Pretty much all of Feng's combos are super easy to pull off (in my opinion, too easy in fact), it's just that they are awfully inconsistent. What Feng needs is combo variety. Give him new moves that are useful and essential for his combos and get rid of the inconsistencies. There is no reason for his already low-ish damage staple combos to also be inconsistent. Getting rid of those weaknesses would make him function like the majority of the cast.
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Zhockwave Zc
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
Pretty much all of Feng's combos are super easy to pull off (in my opinion, too easy in fact), it's just that they are awfully inconsistent. What Feng needs is combo variety. Give him new moves that are useful and essential for his combos and get rid of the inconsistencies. There is no reason for his already low-ish damage staple combos to also be inconsistent. Getting rid of those weaknesses would make him function like the majority of the cast.


Hmm yeah the consistency I guess ~and I think they did add a move for him in ttt2>1+4 .That move did gave him more variety for combos aye?

Lets go thru nice,ez and slowly >
>low hitting screw: d/b+1,4
>far reaching low hitbox move:f+3,4
>far reaching dmging ender: 3~4,3
Any others I missed? I'm tired for the whole day can't think str8 Lol help me ~
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
1+4 has now become useless in combos because f+3,4 connects after CH qcf+1 for more damage. d/b+1,4 is a really good screw move with an amazing hitbox; the damage is just not enough to compete with most other characters.

As for 3~4,3, it's not as damaging now as it was in TTT2 and thus is also not enough to make up for his lacking damage. He simply needs more options for both combo fillers and combo enders.
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
1+4 has now become useless in combos because f+3,4 connects after CH qcf+1 for more damage. d/b+1,4 is a really good screw move with an amazing hitbox; the damage is just not enough to compete with most other characters.

As for 3~4,3, it's not as damaging now as it was in TTT2 and thus is also not enough to make up for his lacking damage. He simply needs more options for both combo fillers and combo enders.


But if I'm not mistaken it's the most dmging 2 hit ender for Feng aye? 3~4,3

Yeah 1+4 is juz there to use where certain situation calls for it. Its a low hitting combo filler ~ for 1+2(punch counter combo? )Other combo I'm not sure.

While I'm at it....is it juz me or they changed the delay timing for ff+4>3?I felt like my input and the move timing is so different....

Last edited by Zhockwave Zc on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 19:46

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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
3~4,3 is Feng's highest damage ender and that's the sad thing.

Also, for the 1+2 punch parry, you don't have to use 1+4. Dash f+1+2 works for a full combo as well.

In TR, I felt it was easier to get the fully delayed f,f+4<3 than it was in TTT2 and since a lot of moves retain their TR properties, this is probably one of them.
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
3~4,3 is Feng's highest damage ender and that's the sad thing.

Also, for the 1+2 punch parry, you don't have to use 1+4. Dash f+1+2 works for a full combo as well.

In TR, I felt it was easier to get the fully delayed f,f+4<3 than it was in TTT2 and since a lot of moves retain their TR properties, this is probably one of them.


For that punch parry I always use the 1+4 follow up for reliability... I tried f+1+2 a few times but not always it'll hit.

Thats cool ~can share ur strats or way to delay ff+4>3 to the fullest so that a jab can connect after?
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
I've never played T7 myself so I can't comment on how exactly the f,f+4<3 delay works in that game. All I know is that I feel it's easier in TR than in TTT2 and I figured that might carry over to T7. Although I've seen some top-level Feng players drop it quite a lot so it might actually be harder in T7.
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
I've never played T7 myself so I can't comment on how exactly the f,f+4<3 delay works in that game. All I know is that I feel it's easier in TR than in TTT2 and I figured that might carry over to T7. Although I've seen some top-level Feng players drop it quite a lot so it might actually be harder in T7.


Wtf??? Tekken 7 ?U didn't play or can't play Lol I believe they launched arcade version a year ago right? Yeah I was wondering if ff+4>3 delay timing has changed ....that's why I asked for some guide or strats Lol
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
I don't have access to any arcades and I don't believe Tekken 7 is widely available in Europe anyway. In any case, I will only be able to get my hands on the game when the console version is released.
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
I don't have access to any arcades and I don't believe Tekken 7 is widely available in Europe anyway. In any case, I will only be able to get my hands on the game when the console version is released.


I see ~Well it's available here in Asia btw I juz watched this Hao's Feng....I'm amazed he can pulled off ff+4>3 delay every time in a combo and managed to get a jab after Lol
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
EDIT:

Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwI4tuGZqxo

T7 FR combo with damage

Last edited by Alley-Oop on Aug 30th, 2016 at 01:44

Zhockwave Zc
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Alley-Oop
T7 FR combo with damage


I can't see ur link bro, there's not even an image available
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
k ill fix that
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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
good shit!
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks a lot for that video, Sento!

Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have confirmation that Feng's open ground combo damage is on a pretty pathetic level. He's only able to do good damage off of his f+3,4 and Rage tools. His pokes really do come at a cost, don't they?
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Zhockwave Zc
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Climbing Dragon
Thanks a lot for that video, Sento!

Well, ladies and gentlemen, there you have confirmation that Feng's open ground combo damage is on a pretty pathetic level. He's only able to do good damage off of his f+3,4 and Rage tools. His pokes really do come at a cost, don't they?


f+3,4 70+ dmg only zzz yeah.....I guess poke heavy characters combo dmg are damn weak...
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah, there seems to be some truth to that. Then again, characters like Heihachi and Bryan (who might not be poke-heavy exactly but possess some really good pokes anyway) have excellent combo damage as it is and when you factor in their Rage Drives, it gets completely ridiculous.

What we have now is basically T6/TTT2 Feng all over again...
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