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sspaajms120
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Given that the next mainstream tekken will have the exact same mechanics as TTT2. what changes could be made to jin's current moves or what new moves could be added to jin so that he is S Tier without the parry?
my thoughts
Changes: EWHF fake bound on NH
eCD+1 +5 on block and gives a push back
1,2,3 NCc
(1)2,4 jails.
d+3+4 is -13 on block
cd+4 is -25 on block and less seeable
3,1,4 is high,mid,low
d/b+4 launches on normal hit
b,f+2 is homing
d/f+2 launches on NH
4 recovers faster
new moves: dunno but i think jin needs a midair throw transition
a bounding option from CDS
b,f+2,1,4 the 4 is a low kick like CDS 4

Last edited by sspaajms120 on Jul 21st, 2013 at 20:13

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Hey sspaajms120, where did you hear that the next Tekken will have the exact same mehanics as TTT2?
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Yeah, those changes would make him S tier. What's the point you're trying to make here?
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The db+4 change alone would make him the best character in the game by far...
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@Master_Baihu i assumed that the next tekken would have the same mechanics
@lilleboff i just gave my thoughts on how to make jin S Tier. i'm asking how far anyone agrees and to give opinions of their own on how to make jin S Tier
@Bopper you sure?cuz kazuya's f,F+3 gives similal juggle ablities on NH
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Yeah but Kaz f,f+3 is a slow mid... db+4 is a 20f low (unseeable) thats -13 on block, has amazing reach and decent tracking. Making it a NH launcher would make it the best move in the game by miles.
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I think with those changes, Jin wouldn't just become S tier, he would be broken. Mainly because db+4 launching on NH would give an unseeable low launcher and would be the best move in the game and it wouldn't even be close.

Also, Jin already has a ff+3 similar to Kaz.
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they could make the db+4 -27 like the HS as a counter measure
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Jin is a complete nightmare to deal with for my team of Kings, against a good Jin I get the lips kicked off me.
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when i play a team of jin and king ,i lead with king. but when my king gets low on health jin's tools don't seem enough to get a win. so i eagerly wait for the next tekken where jin is S tier. JFLS was broken but with the current tekken roster JFLS doesn't seem very helpful.
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Dunno why you are wishing so hard for an overpowerd jin in the next game. He is plenty strong in this game, top10 easy. Be satisfied with what you got .
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Originally posted by Bopper
Dunno why you are wishing so hard for an overpowerd jin in the next game. He is plenty strong in this game, top10 easy. Be satisfied with what you got .

i miss having an overpowered jin its been like 12 years since the last time jin was overpowered...
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LOL, personally, I love using a midtier or underpowered Jin.

When I use Jin in TTT2 I actually get respect.
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Originally posted by Tiexandrea
LOL, personally, I love using a midtier or underpowered Jin.

When I use Jin in TTT2 I actually get respect.

Kazuya/DVJ are top tier but i respect those players. i guess what i'm saing is that jin is great but could be much better. an S tier team of Jin/DVJ would be cool
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a lower reaching bind would be the main thing that I ask for. Maybe adding pushback on eCD+1 so that it is safer. Also give him the b/f+2,1 d2 option that DJ has. He already has the "highest" potential in the game and isn't far from being the best char.
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alright if the d/b+4 change seems to over power jin the ignore that change and consider the rest
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I'd rather not have a top-tier Jin. Since 5.0 he's been the kind of character that's good at everything but great at nothing, and I prefer Jin that way. A solid mid-tier Jin.
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I personally wouldn't like an S tier Jin, but I think he's mid to low tier in TTT2 (just my opinion). Although he has solid tools for a lot of situations; an overall solid and fundamentally sound character but not spectacular. I would definitely welcome a few buffs such as:

df+2 like Leo (alternate whiff punisher)
db+4/cd+4 having slight crushing properties
d+1 as a CH launcher
better 2-hit bound than just 1,3~3
slightly more usable parry
slight increase in damage output
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
I was playing T4 recently and i thought that i do want a Jin who is great at everything punishment,poking,juggle damage,far ranged attacks,string lockdown. agreed that the parry is a really good tool but many jin players can't use it well.
@ The Jin Kazama it would be great to have more active frames in the parry but i can't think of how d+1 could give a CH Juggle
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I was thinking d+1 could give a crumple stun on CH, similar to how CH uf+3 does.
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