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PhantomXD
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
Steve Mishima
EWGFx3~5 ff+2 B! df121~b dck 1(red health killer)
EWGFx2 df1,2~5 B! ssu df121~b flk1 b3+4 2 ewgf94 dmg
EWGF~5 dckf+2dck1 df+1 ff+2 df121~b flk1 alb 2(Red health killer)EWGF~5 b+1~b dck1 df121 ff+2 B! ssu CD 4,4n1 flk1 alb 2
b+1 ext dck1~5 ewgf~5 ff+2 B! df121~b flk1 alb2
Heihachi
EWGFx3 d+1 B! TA Steve ssu df121~b flk1 alb2 ewgf 98?
b+2 ff+2 B! OTGF dck1 df+1 f2,1~b dck 1
b+2 ff+2 B! OTGF df121~b flk 1 alb 2
b+2 ff+2 B! OTGF 3,1,1 df121~b flk 1 alb 2(this one is weird because depending on when you do otgf the opponent go's backwards and you can hit 3,1,1)

I have more but I'll post up more later when I'm not tired and have the time as well. I should be more active on the steve forums and helping people out soon. If you have any ideas please post them and I'll add them to my post for all to see. I think we should have one combo thread but breaks down every character as far as combos go but it will take to long. I'm writing something like that up now but won't finish into I get a break from other life stuff

Last edited by PhantomXD on Nov 7th, 2012 at 21:06

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FoxSteve
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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
Nice. When I get a chance to stuff around with some Kazuya CH df2 pewgf~5 Steve combos maybe I'll make a little staple out of them.

looks good, I hope you get some time to keep updating this.
Signature Steve Fox BR Combo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnN8b9ELEZQ
Steve~Hwoarang Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR90rkT6VTw
Hwoarang~Steve Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqzeBf7ZTYI
PhantomXD
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by FoxSteve
Nice. When I get a chance to stuff around with some Kazuya CH df2 pewgf~5 Steve combos maybe I'll make a little staple out of them.

looks good, I hope you get some time to keep updating this.

I'll update later today and all weekend because i'm free. I have a video based off heihachi and steve combos. I'll be doing kazuya and DJ as well.
sucks i can't do ch df+2 pewgf anymore. haven't practice in a while
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FoxSteve
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah I'm really curios to see some of the Damage amounts those type of combos will produce.
I'm going to steal some of your work up there ^_^

I did my first batch of practice CH df2 pewgf's in TTT2 about 2 nights ago. I haven't been practicing and I was just using the timing from DR and BR that I remembered.... it didn't feel exactly the same. TBH, it feels a little tighter in Tag2 as opposed to the other titles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP7iciUubl4
Signature Steve Fox BR Combo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnN8b9ELEZQ
Steve~Hwoarang Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR90rkT6VTw
Hwoarang~Steve Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqzeBf7ZTYI
Klyde
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
Xiaoyu's combo vid
youtube's Xiaoyu0826
Has some high damage, Steve/Hei juggles near the end of the vid 115+ damage.
Seriously Hei can do so much damage now on launch with OTGF its crazy.
FoxSteve
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Sup

Here's what I was able to cap this weekend. Please bare in mind I am not a Mishima player ^_^ lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzug...eature=youtu.be

Kazuya~Steve Staples:

Legend
Kaz = Kazuya
Ste = Steve
SF = Sonic Fang
TA = Tag Assault
RL = Red Life
For the rest use the TZ legend.

Steve

b+2 TA
Ste b+2, ff+2 B!~5 Kaz cd1 Ste f31, df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 80Dmg


CH b+1 RL
Ste CH b+1, extdck1~5 Kaz ewgf~5 Ste ff+2 B! f2,1~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 83Dmg

Ste CH b+1, extdck1~5 Kaz ewgf~5 Ste ff+2 B! ffn df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 87Dmg


Kazuya

ewgf TA
Kaz ewgf, ewgf, df1,2 B!~5 Ste SSR df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 Kaz ewgf = 100Dmg

Kaz ewgf~5 Ste b+1~f31 df121 ff+2 B!~5 Kaz SSL cd+4,1 Ste SF = 95Dmg

Kaz ewgf~5 Ste b+1~f31 df121 ff+2 B!~5 Kaz SSL cd+4,1 Ste ffn b+3+4~Flk1~b3+4,2 = 103Dmg


ewgf RL
Kaz ewgf, ewgf~5 Ste ff+2 B! f31, df121~b~f31 = 84Dmg

Kaz ewgf~5 Ste f4,2~f31, df1, ff+2 B! ffb df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 91Dmg

Kaz ewgf, ewgf, ewgf~5 Ste ff+2 B! f2,1~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 89Dmg



CH df2 pewgf TA
Kaz CH df2 pewgf, ewgf, df1,2 B!~5 Ste SSL df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 Kaz ewgf = 126Dmg

Kaz CH df2 pewgf~5 Ste b+1~f31 df121 ff+2 B!~5 Kaz SSL cd+4,4 Ste ffn b+3+4~Flk1~b3+4,2 = 127Dmg

Kaz CH df2 pewgf~5 Ste b+1~f31 df121 ff+2 B!~5 Kaz SSL cd+4,1 Ste ff+2 = 132Dmg

Kaz CH df2 pewgf~5 Ste b+1~f31 df121 ff+2 B!~5 Kaz SSL cd+4,1 Ste qcf+1 = 131Dmg


CH df2 pewgf
Kaz CH df2 pewgf, ewgf~5 Ste ff+2 B! ffn df121~b~flk1~3+4,2 = 116Dmg

Kaz CH df2 pewgf~5 Ste f4,2~f31, df1, ff+2 B! ffb df121~b~flk1~b3+4,2 = 117Dmg

Kaz CH df2 pewgf~5 Ste f4,2~f31, df121 ff+2 B! f21~b~Flk~f31 = 121Dmg

@ Klyde - Damn, those are GoldenEggs combos... I don't think those are going to become staple anytime soon, at least not from my side. lol
Signature Steve Fox BR Combo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnN8b9ELEZQ
Steve~Hwoarang Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR90rkT6VTw
Hwoarang~Steve Staple Combos TTT2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqzeBf7ZTYI
PhantomXD
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predator25
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
if anyone can help me please help with some combos steve/drag with steve initiating nothing i found has 100% rate of succes so any ideas are welcome
PhantomXD
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send me the combos you came up with through P.M and I'll do the rest
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predator25
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
and one quick question for any moves that go in to flicker but just as an example:after df12 1b(flicker)if the opponent does a crouch jab what can i do?i tried to just dont do flicker and do hopkick or uf 1 and the crouch jab still is faster,df12 1 i thought its only -2 but i cant even do uf1?i mean after df12 1 am i really stuck and the crouch jab beats everithing?not to mention that all flicker options can be interrupted with a crouch jab?is there any answer to this situation or i just have to hope that the opponent doesnt do a crouch jab when i go in to flicker,maybe this is old news but plz help me steve players!
alfaphlex
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
^ Have you tried using 3 or 4 from flk? If they're doing low jabs everytime you go into flk, a couple of 3,1,1's or 4,2's would stop that.

I did test df+1,2,1 u/f+1 and a crouch jab does interrupt, but you can just low parry if you expect the low jab.
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predator25
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
thanks man thats a good ideea i knew about 3 and 4 evasive properties just never thought to use them like that.But to low parry after df12 1 i dont know i could just get a hopkick in my mouth...
PhantomXD
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_rd7aI...lt_tab=comments
My steve heihachi combo thatb can be done using wgf or even ewgf and still getbthe same damage. So you don't have to worry about missing up ewgf an not being to hit the combo. Btw this is a staple for the team so get use to doing it
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
hmmm


hei: EWGF 3x, d1 b! TA! stv df121~B flk 1~B alb2 hei qcf 2 101
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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
Try doing the same combo with CD+3 for a ender instead of DF ^^
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
heihachi lead:

ewgfx2, b,f+2, d+1 b!, b+1,d+2,1, uf+3,4 (95 dmg)

ewgf~5, dck2~dck1, df+1,2,1, ff+2 b!, f,N,d,df+4~1, alb2 (97 dmg)

ewgf, otgf, ewgf, d+1 b!, b+1, d+2, 1, uf+3, 4 (104 dmg)


CH f,N,d,df+4,4, ewgf, d+1 b!, b+1,d+2,1, uf+3,4 (85 dmg)

CH f+3, d+1 b!, ipab~b1, 1, 2, 1~b~dck2, uf+3, 4 (90 dmg)


ff+3, d+1 b!, ipab~b1, 1, 2, 1~b~flk1~alb2, ff+2 (91 dmg)




steve lead:

dck2, dck2~dck1, df+1,2,1, ff+2 b!, f,N,d,df+4,1, alb2 (84 dmg)


CH b+1, df+1,2,1~b~dck1, ff+2 b!, f,N,d,df+4,1, alb2 (83 dmg)

CH b+1, df+1,2,1, ff+2 b!, f,N,d,df+4 (hold df),4,1, sonic fang (85 dmg)

CH b+1, df+1, 2, 1~b~dck1, ff+2, f, N, d, df+4 (hold df), 4, 1, sonic fang (90 dmg)


b+2, ff+2 b!, uf+3,4, df+1,2,1~b, flk1~alb2 (80 dmg)


b+3, 2, df+1, 2, 1, f+2, 1~b~iws 1, 2 b!, otgf, alb2 (99 dmg)

b+3, 2, df+1, 2, 1~b~dck1, ff+2 b!, f, N, d, df+4, 1, sonic fang (101 dmg)


dck2~dck1, df+1, 2, 1, ff+2 b!, f, N, d, df+4, 1, alb2 (86 dmg)

dck2~dck1, df+1, 2, 1~b~dck1, ff+2 b!, otgf, alb2 (91 dmg)


uf+2, df+1, 2, 1~b~dck1, ff+2, f, N, d, df+4 (hold df), 4, 1, sonic fang (88 dmg)



edit: 5/23/13 added combos and reorganized them.

Last edited by Kknight on May 23rd, 2013 at 21:44

PhantomXD
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Did you have counter hit on? I believe these combos where in my video as well
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Kknight
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by PhantomXD
Did you have counter hit on? I believe these combos where in my video as well


i've only seen one steve/heihachi combo vid, and it mostly included wall stuff. none of the combos i've posted were in that video.

i tried clicking on your link, but it doesn't lead me to your steve/heihachi combo video. tried to google phantomxd steve heihachi combo and still can't find it. link please.

and yes, i have counter hit on.

edit: found your vid. unless i'm watching the wrong vid, it only has two combos on it. one of my listed combos is similar to your second combo though. it starts ewgf~5, dck2~dck1... but you don't tag assault in your video, opting for the wall carry.
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Yea I'm gonna have to give you the link. I have those combos already. Not at home now but when I get home I'll give you the link
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Klyde
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
what is the TA juggle with Mishimas?
I've been using
b+1(ch), extdck+1, df+1,2,1, ff+2~5 (TA) Kaz ssl b+4,1, Ste Flk+1, alb+2
But on arcades here it doesnt do more than maybe 85 damage *half bar*
when I am doing TA juggles I expect to do more than half.
So you got any suggestions for Ste b+1(ch) juggles that do more than 90 dmg?
Wall carry?

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