Asuka Kazama TTT2U Changes

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pIchu
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
(d/f+1),4 now KND on any hit and SPLATS. It's also more punishable.. yiggs got a Ling shoulder on me.
d/f+1,4 is NCc so against the wall, she's a lot more dangerous.
CH (d/f+1),4 still gut stuns.
IRON LOBSTER
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i don't suppose they made 1,3 +1 on hit again?

is db3 still +4 on hit?

and is 1+2 still safe?

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ashinomori
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
they buffed up asuka but nerfed jun...pretty decent and balanced pair to me..just hope asuka's 1+2 is still safe..to the arcades!!!!
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
- 13 is safer on block
- ff3 is safer on block
- df14 different hit animation on hit
df14 damage boost
df14 less pushback on block
- ws3 damage boost
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albacore7
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by IRON LOBSTER
http://web.tekken-net.jp/tag2/campa...Xg9MjQ%3D229808

someone translate!!!


based on google translate, it seems like they buffed 1,3 and ff+3? it says " Time has been reduced rigidity of the move" . time reduced = faster frames? rigidity = recovery? im expecting 1,3 to be at least 0 or + on hit again

edit : thanks Kane :p
Demoyon
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
From my testing earlier today:

BUFFS:
df+1,4 - now -12 on block (previously -13 on block), the 4 gives KND on hit
ff+3 - is now safe (previously -13 on block)
1,3 - less punishable; I forgot if it's -13 or -12 on block (IIRC it was -14 on block before?)

NERFS:
b+3 glitch (where b+3,3~2 as TA! would immediately switch to your partner) has been removed.
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albacore7
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
so ff+3 is completely safe now? that's a super awesome homing move then . do you know if 1,3 on hit is still -ve frames? also, what's b3,3~2?
pIchu
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
f,f+3 being safe is great news!

albacore7
The b+3,3~2 glitch is where you input the extra 3 to make either Jun or Asuka recover slightly faster during a wall TA so they can get the full 1,1,4 to hit.
eleetplayah
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
these are some good news i'm hearin about asuka (now off to jun). but the removal of b+3,3~2 makes me a sad panda. i hope people will quit ducking her df+1,2 now so i can actually fish some faster mid CH.
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(CHI) holli
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
ff3 is completely safe? pretty decent news; finally a use for it.

also it seems there's conflicting info on df14... is it more or less punishable than before? -12 is pretty decent. pseudo meaty frame trap into df14 could be nice to throw out sometimes. i abuse ss2 at walls anyways and at -12, the risk reward is pretty worth if you feel you can read your opponent
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ashinomori
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
i was dumbfounded with the b3~3,2 not being able to be done anymore. there goes one of my wall combos.
i like the customizations (finally we're getting what the japanese players got early this year =_=).
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pIchu
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
haha... I'll be doing heaps of d/f+1, d+4 from now on :p
ashinomori
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
wall combos, by far i used after the update (=_=)*:

after B! asuka starts off: 2,3, b2,1,1_1+4,2,d4_1,1,4

after B! jun statrs off: b4,2, 2,3_1,1,4
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Nameless03
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Is the b3~32 early TA end "glitch" also gone for all characters? The only other ones I know of are Jun's b32 and Paul's FC df22 (FC df2~2,2). Would suck if it's gone across the board.
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FF3 SPAM!!!
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Demoyon
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Nameless03
Is the b3~32 early TA end "glitch" also gone for all characters? The only other ones I know of are Jun's b32 and Paul's FC df22 (FC df2~2,2). Would suck if it's gone across the board.

Jun's b+3,3~2 is also gone. I don't know about Paul though.
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ashinomori
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
i retract all of the wall combos i posted earlier. none of them worked when techrolled. pure bummer =_="

only 5 hits, tops, work at the wall from what ive tried by far.
after B!:
asuka leads: 2,3 jun: f1,4 (1,1,4, doesnt work, at all)
asuka leads: f1,4 jun: b2,3

jun leads: f1,4 asuka: 2,3
jun leads: ff2,3 asuka: 2,3

if jun leads with b4,2, asuka can only connect with one hit, even the simplest 2,3, can be techrolled.

unless me or any asuka/jun players find any other way to cancel into early TA, their wall combos are pretty much nerfed down IMO.

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Demoyon
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
Have you tried:

Asuka/Jun

W! TA!, b+2,1,1, f+1,4 - this should still work, easy staple from TTT2 Vanilla
W! TA!, b+2,4,3, f+1,4 - haven't tried this yet, it should work
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albacore7
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
any news on asuka's 1,3 on hit?

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