TTT2 Asuka General Strategy

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pIchu
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
hahaha... I was going to say the EXACT same thing on SS+2, but then I thought, "Maybe he meant movement.."... err... "Maybe he'll elaborate a little... maybe...?"
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
just you wait Bill, when they finally invent a DDR where you can wave your arms about India would be like the Korea of DDR
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leonized
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by pIchu
hahaha... I was going to say the EXACT same thing on SS+2, but then I thought, "Maybe he meant movement.."... err... "Maybe he'll elaborate a little... maybe...?"


what i mean is can she be like lili where she sidesteps and playing hard to catch? since asuka is mainly a defensive characters since her safe pokes doesnt give her momentum so im thinking of baiting and making opponent do dumb moves
pIchu
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
Ash
May god help us all if that ever happens. Whatever arcade that game is in, the air is going to be very very thick.

leonized
Asuka doesn't have a particularly exceptional SS or anything but movement has been buffed overall so she can be play the way you're describing... but at the same time, anyone can. Just look for HelpMe matches. His movement is fuck off good.

Using her this way is pretty effective because of f+2 speed and range... but the hard part is learning your opponent's playstyles and characters. In this game, knowledge is king.
albacore7
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
Im not sure if this is the right place to ask but.

Im getting owned by miguel and lars, no idea how to fight them with asuka, any tips?
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
SWR vs both of them, both characters are also quite punishable, especially now in ttt2 now that asuka has an i12 punisher, check their frame data on ATP to see what you can punish

miguel's df1 is now -2 on block so you can jab/ch4 back

lars, depends on your opponent, just remember that b1 is -9 on block so b4 afterwards to stop him pushing buttons

really link us to vids if you can if not list what moves your opp is using so we can help more
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pIchu
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
Asuka vs thread opened.

I would move the above to posts into it, but I don't know how
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by albacore7
Im not sure if this is the right place to ask but.

Im getting owned by miguel and lars, no idea how to fight them with asuka, any tips?


Lars/Asuka Punishment

f+1+2 = jab
uf+3 = df2
ff+4, 3 = f2
db+4 = ws1, 4
f2, 4 = duck the second hit or f2/ws3? XD
f+1+4 = df2
ff3+4 = ws1, 4
fc d/f+1+2 = WS+4

those are the only moves I am familiar with XD hope it helps
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
Is Lars f+1+2 only -10? Surely it's at least -12...

f+2 his u/f+3... it's like... -20 now or something!

Other than that, I don't know his other moves :p
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by pIchu
Is Lars f+1+2 only -10? Surely it's at least -12...

f+2 his u/f+3... it's like... -20 now or something!

Other than that, I don't know his other moves :p


Safest punishment for uf3 is df2, still the same property from BR XD

I tried punishing f+1+2 with 2, 1 didn't work, so I only use 1 )

Lili can punish it with 1, 2 and 1, 1 for alisa.. so what do you think?

EDIT: I just read from Lars thread f+1+2 is -12... so... 2, 3? Or what? Haha
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Sachiko
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Yuki Hime
Lars/Asuka Punishment

f+1+2 = jab
uf+3 = df2
ff+4, 3 = f2
db+4 = ws1, 4
f2, 4 = duck the second hit or f2/ws3? XD
f+1+4 = df2
ff3+4 = ws1, 4
fc d/f+1+2 = WS+4

those are the only moves I am familiar with XD hope it helps


f+1+2 = -12 (2,3)
uf+3 = -21 (f+2)
ff+4,3 = -30,-17 (cc f+2 first hit, f+2 second hit)
db+4 = -20 (cc f+2)
f+2,4 = -6,-12 (duck 2nd hit and launch, or 2,3 if both hits are blocked)
f+1+4 = -18 (f+2)
ff+3+4 = -16 (ws1,4)
FC df+1+2 = -12 (ws4)

Lars has great mids but most of his usable lows are -15 and above (the rest are low,high strings). His db+1 and FC df+1+2 are -12 and d+3 is -14, but everything else can be punished by ws1,4. His 1,4 is also -12 but it should be low parried if you expect it. db+1,3 and d+3,1 are low,high so just duck the second hit.

His generic d+4 is -15 from his T6BR frame data, but I haven't seen it get punished by 15f moves yet though.
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albacore7
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
lol alright awesome guys, will definitely use this stuff for this friday

though this has more information than the actual VS thread lol
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Demoyon
f+1+2 = -12 (2,3)
uf+3 = -21 (f+2)
ff+4,3 = -30,-17 (cc f+2 first hit, f+2 second hit)
db+4 = -20 (cc f+2)
f+2,4 = -6,-12 (duck 2nd hit and launch, or 2,3 if both hits are blocked)
f+1+4 = -18 (f+2)
ff+3+4 = -16 (ws1,4)
FC df+1+2 = -12 (ws4)

Lars has great mids but most of his usable lows are -15 and above (the rest are low,high strings). His db+1 and FC df+1+2 are -12 and d+3 is -14, but everything else can be punished by ws1,4. His 1,4 is also -12 but it should be low parried if you expect it. db+1,3 and d+3,1 are low,high so just duck the second hit.

His generic d+4 is -15 from his T6BR frame data, but I haven't seen it get punished by 15f moves yet though.



Hahaha thanks

Make me a punishment list noooow
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Sachiko
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Yuki Hime
Hahaha thanks

Make me a punishment list noooow
As soon as I have free time I will

For Asuka only? Or for Asuka/Lili?

EDIT: scrap the old one I sent you (the one for BR), it's outdated now that Asuka's 2,3 is i12.
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albacore7
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
hey guys, how many frames is asuka's u/f+2 now? is it 13f? in this video she punished a ducked ewgf with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...BbDr-Csc#t=129s
Demoyon
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by albacore7
hey guys, how many frames is asuka's u/f+2 now? is it 13f? in this video she punished a ducked ewgf with it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...BbDr-Csc#t=129s
It's 14f.
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IRON LOBSTER
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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
we need noodalls to find out how much does EWGF whiffs at
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pIchu
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
I'll text him or something :p
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
hi, i dont use asuka(Jun is way better!!) but my brother does and his play style really bugs me. all he does is launch me when i whiff, counter every damn move i use, and spam d/b+2..... whenever he can. does anyone else use asuka like this, just wondering?
ashinomori
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
it's practical since asuka's f2 launches any whiffs, and high crushes too. so try not to whiff and bait him to do a f2.when he does, block it and launch punish him.
as for counters, use any knees or elbows or headbutts to counter that. u just need to anticipate his playstyle so when he counters, you can mash those out or a simple low would suffice.
db2..hmmm...seldom see people spamming this move. high crushes but bad bad range.
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