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#41 “Quote” Edit Post
I see what you mean, have played prologue (waste of time)

trying to mentally link Devil Kaz(prologue) Kaz(T6) and I see where you coming from
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#42 “Quote” Edit Post
I see what you mean, have played prologue (waste of time)

trying to mentally link Devil Kaz(prologue) Kaz(T6) and I see where you coming from
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#43 “Quote” Edit Post
IMHO from my general use, I think it more so depends on your tag partner, for instance Heihachi has a good TA filler (hs,hs,n+1) so DK is able to utilise d/f+1,2 with great effect without the need for Kaz's d/f+1,2, B!
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Shoto, why would you NOT do d/f+1,2~5 every time? DK can still come in on the tag assault right?

Obviously for some characters this might not work as well as 314 d/b+2~5 TA, but I would think Red bar damage every time? (Or do you agree, pretty much d/f+1,2~5 every time besides mistakes)
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Originally posted by MCP
Shoto, why would you NOT do d/f+1,2~5 every time? DK can still come in on the tag assault right?

Obviously for some characters this might not work as well as 314 d/b+2~5 TA, but I would think Red bar damage every time? (Or do you agree, pretty much d/f+1,2~5 every time besides mistakes)


Twin pistons~5 doesn't juggle the opponent very high. Characters like DJ have a hard time following up after the launcher. Though I have seen some vids where they do:
Dk df+1,2~5 DJ bf2,1,d+2~5 DK db+2 (b!)
But after trying the combo out several times, I have found the laser scraper~5 to DK db+2 to be very inconsistent.
That leaves DJ having to do juggle fillers like
DK df+1,2~5 DJ 1, ff+3,1~ff 2, df+1+2(b!)
Which is very little damage, due to the first hit of the being a single jab. You could try doing:
DK df+1,2~5 DJ ff+3,1~ff 2 df+1+2 (b!) But I haven't gotten this to hit yet, timing on the ff+3 is very strict I believe, probably impossible.
Other characters I have been teaming DK with are Law, Hei, and Lars, they don't really have a hard time following up with juggles, though Hei juggle fillers for small characters tend to be relatively weak also.
DK df+1,2~5 Hei df+1, bf +2, d+1 (b!)
Law and Lars have damaging juggles from DK twin pistons~5
DK df+1,2~5 Law f+4,3 Dss 2 (b!)
DK df+1,2~5 Lars f+1,2,3~d, DE 1, db+2~f, SE df+1 (b!)
both fillers from Law and Lars can lead to near half bar juggles depleting red bar. Very good IMHO.

But for the team of DK/Hei I am pretty sure you could just twin pistons then dewgf X2 then tag in Hei for the d+1 bound
DK df+1,2 ewgf, dewgf~5 Hei d+1 (b!)
Which is great damage. So, I think that is what Shoto was referring to.
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#46 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah, I agree with what Klyde said. It really doesn't hit the opponent that high, it's a very low hitting tag launcher, which makes sense given the range and consistency it has as a whiff punisher.

I'll test out stuff that's possible but it will heavily vary between characters. Feel free to post down what you'd like tested.
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#47 “Quote” Edit Post
What is the staple after a get up 3?
In BR it was: get up 3, ssR db+4, df+1,2 (b!)
Since DK loses the df+1,2 bound move to twin pistons.
What do I bound with now?
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#48 “Quote” Edit Post
you can do cc db+4, b+2,4, db+2. works just fine.
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would asuka be a good partner for kazuya ? if not who would be ? besides devil jin .
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#50 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Klyz806
would asuka be a good partner for kazuya ? if not who would be ? besides devil jin .


You want someone that can poke quite well. I generally would recommend someone like Paul or Heihachi, Heihachi and Kazuya from my own experience seem to be one of the best teams in the game.
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#51 “Quote” Edit Post
OOOOkay?
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#52 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Shotokan
You want someone that can poke quite well. I generally would recommend someone like Paul or Heihachi, Heihachi and Kazuya from my own experience seem to be one of the best teams in the game.

Hei can poke quite well, but Kaz just doesn't like Hei or any other Mishima in that matter. -2 Netsu. If that bothers you I recommend you check out compatibility charts. Besides Mishimas I team Kaz with characters like Law and Lars. These two characters also have low, in height, pick up moves for juggles.
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#53 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Klyde
Hei can poke quite well, but Kaz just doesn't like Hei or any other Mishima in that matter. -2 Netsu. If that bothers you I recommend you check out compatibility charts. Besides Mishimas I team Kaz with characters like Law and Lars. These two characters also have low, in height, pick up moves for juggles.


How about Kaz and Baek?
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#54 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Psypher
How about Kaz and Baek?

Paul
Likes (+1): Law, Bryan, Kazuya, Steve
Dislikes (-1): Kuma
Hates (-2): Ogre

Law
Likes (+1): Paul, Yoshimitsu, Steve
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Baek, Lili

Lei
Likes (+1): Steve, Mokujin, Wang, Asuka
Dislikes (-1): Nina, Bruce, Feng, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

King
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Marduk, Armor King
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Ogre

Yoshimitsu
Likes (+1): Roger Jr, Alisa
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Bryan, Ogre

Nina
Likes (+1): Jin, Eddy
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Christie, Steve, Lars
Hates (-2): Anna, Ogre

Hwoarang
Likes (+1): Jin, Baek
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Devil Jin

Xiaoyu
Likes (+1): Jin, Heihachi, Lee, Wang, Alisa, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Anna, Asuka, Lili, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Christie
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Eddy

Jin
Likes (+1): Nina
Dislikes (-1): Xiaoyu, Christie, Lee, Jack-6, Anna, Bruce, Raven, Jun
Hates (-2): Lei, Heihachi, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Zafina, Lars, Alisa, Jinpachi, Ogre

Jaycee
Likes (+1): King, Marduk, Armor King
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Ganryu

Kuma
Likes (+1): King, Heihachi, Mokujin, Roger Jr, Armor King, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Paul, Ogre
Hates (-2): Xiaoyu, Jin

Bryan
Likes (+1): Dragunov
Dislikes (-1): Jack-6, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Lei, Yoshimitsu, Heihachi

Heihachi
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Kuma, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Yoshimitsu, Steve, Jun
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Lee, Jack-6, Wang, Devil Jin, Jinpachi, Ogre

Kazuya
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Raven, Eddy
Hates (-2): Lei, Nina, Jin, Heihachi, Lee, Wang, Devil Jin, Zafina, Leo, Lars, Ogre, Jun

Lee
Likes (+1): Wang, Lili, Lars, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Kazuya

Steve
Likes (+1): Paul, Law, Lei, Nina
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi

Marduk
Likes (+1): King, Jaycee
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Roger Jr, Armor

Mokujin
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Kuma, Roger Jr, Panda
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Alisa, Jinpachi, Ogre, Jun

Jack-6
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Anna, Bruce
Dislikes (-1): Nina, Eddy, Lars, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Raven

Roger Jr.
Likes (+1): King, Yoshimitsu, Kuma, Steve, Mokujin, Armor King, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2):

Anna
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Bruce
Dislikes (-1): Jin, Eddy, Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina

Wang
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Feng, Jinpachi, Jun
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Devil Jin

Ganryu
Likes (+1): Jaycee, Devil Jin
Dislikes (-1): Lili, Bob, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Asuka
Likes (+1): Lei, Bob, Miguel, Leo
Dislikes (-1): Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Feng, Lili

Bruce
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Anna
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Nina, Jin, Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Baek
Likes (+1): Hwoarang
Dislikes (-1): Jin
Hates (-2): Ogre

Devil Jin
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Hwoarang, Xiaoyu, Heihachi, Kazuya, Asuka, Dragunov, Zafina, Ogre, Jun

Raven
Likes (+1): Zafina
Dislikes (-1): Jin, Kazuya, Alisa, Ogre
Hates (-2): Yoshimitsu, Heihachi, Dragunov

Feng
Likes (+1): Law, Wang, Jinpachi
Dislikes (-1): Lei, Ogre
Hates (-2): Heihachi

Armor King
Likes (+1): King, Jaycee
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2):Marduk

Lili
Likes (+1): Kuma, Ganryu, Asuka, Leo
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya, Eddy, Lars, Alisa, Jinpachi, Jun

Dragunov
Likes (+1): Jack-6, Devil Jin
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Raven, Eddy, Lars

Eddy
Likes (+1): Nina, Christie, Jin
Dislikes (-1): Lars, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

Bob
Likes (+1): Paul, Law, Jin, Ganryu, Miguel
Dislikes (-1): Steve, Ogre
Hates (-2):

Zafina
Likes (+1): Wang, Raven
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Jin, Kazuya, Devil Jin, Jinpachi, Ogre, Jun

Miguel
Likes (+1): Kuma, Roger Jr, Panda
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Nina, Jin, Eddy, Bob, Lars,

Leo
Likes (+1): Xiaoyu, Jaycee, Wang, Asuka, Feng, Lili
Dislikes (-1): Jack-6, Anna, Bruce, Ogre
Hates (-2): Kazuya

Lars
Likes (+1): Lee, Wang, Raven, Zafina, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Jin, Heihachi, Kazuya

Alisa
Likes (+1): Yoshimitsu, Jin, Lee, Jack-6, Raven, Zafina, Lars
Dislikes (-1): Xiaoyu, Ogre
Hates (-2): Bryan

Jinpachi
Likes (+1): Kazuya, Wang
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Devil Jin, Ogre

Ogre
Likes (+1):
Dislikes (-1): Paul, Yoshimitsu
Hates (-2): Jin, Zafina, Jun

Jun
Likes (+1): Jin, Kuma, Roger Jr, Asuka, Panda
Dislikes (-1):
Hates (-2): Heihachi, Devil Jin, Ogre

Panda
Likes (+1): King, Xiaoyu, Jaycee, Lee, Mokujin, Roger Jr, Wang, Armor King, Alisa
Dislikes (-1): Ogre
Hates (-2): Kuma

Yes I think they are compatible. Poke like crazy with Baek, juggle with Kazuya.. Sounds good.
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#55 “Quote” Edit Post
Hmmm.... So its just constant with those two. GREAT!!!

I also see Jinpachi likes Kaz...
That could be an interesting concept, but I'm not sure about his poking potential...

& ... interesting...
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#56 “Quote” Edit Post
great to see that Kazuya still has the longest hate list. Badass mofo, isn't he?
I hope the dont nerf him in this new update to tag 2, like they did from 6.0 to BR. Anyone have any thoughts on what buffs/nerfs kaz might be getting this edition.?
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#57 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by sahilmalhotra17
great to see that Kazuya still has the longest hate list. Badass mofo, isn't he?
I hope the dont nerf him in this new update to tag 2, like they did from 6.0 to BR. Anyone have any thoughts on what buffs/nerfs kaz might be getting this edition.?


im guessing ewgf hitbox nerf. but as long as they dont nerf the universal movements (bd,ss), he'll still be good.
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#58 “Quote” Edit Post
Balance out the game they say...

leave it as it is
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#59 “Quote” Edit Post
does kaz have magic properties on his new standing 4?

having trouble with characters that crouch jab a lot.. can't seem to punish crouch jabbers with anything aside from low parry
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#60 “Quote” Edit Post
u/f+3?
Last I saw, normal 4 does CH stun like T6 BR b+4.

But if they crouch jab and you block, you should be able to side walk most character's WS attacks or maybe ch d/f+2 them (I don't know frames on duck jabs). Besides that, you should be able to dodge duck jabs unless they're using it to interrupt your electric or something. If they're using it to interrupt, then maybe ws+4 or u/f+3.
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