If 1+2 doesn't jail, I'll eat my hat, or something resembling a hat, anyway. I have yet to see anyone block/eat the first punch and be able to duck the second. The gap between these two punches has definitely been shortened.

Tiny side note: I saw someone tag in with the flying stomp, like PJ (was it..?) could do in TTT1. Multiple 3+4 extensions possible, just like the standard 3+4, 3+4...

Yeah I forgot to ask about the stomp. Does he just drop out of the air or do one thrust before he falls?

b+1+2 jailing is awesome. I use this move a lot in T6BR actually.

We need to find out about 2 being i10 or not. Would be hella good if it is.

I think I'm gonna start my first TTT2 match with a b+1+2.

Comes in floating, kinda like a floor break in BR. I am furiously trying to think of a way to incorporate this into a TA...

Aviax, has Jacks movement been buffed at all? He has one of the weakest backdashes in the game in 6, and I know that characters like Devil Jin got a big improvement in that department. Jacks range might keep him from getting a buff in movement, but it would be REALLY nice.

Well this sucks, all of Jack's homing moves are high now.. I would settle for a backdash as fast as Marduk or Yoshimitsu

Another quick note on Jack entering in 3+4 - It's so much like a floor break, it does the same really minor damage. Still, it's kinda nice to have the option.

What/s the command for fly in?

not really much to say about jack other than that he is still good / cheap / easy as hell to use.

FC db+1 nerf hurts a bit, but not too much.
2,1 seemed to be worse on block than before. I believe if you do a small ss whilst blocking the 2nd hit in BR it makes it more disadvantaged, but now it seems that it's not necessary.

u+1+2 is one of the best TA moves in the game, as already stated. it basically means you can tack a delayed hopkick onto any wall bound move, then finish your combo (eg bryan w! ff+4~5, \o/, UF,4, b+3~f,n+3,4). you can use it for landing a characters most damaging single hit in combos (king ss+3+4, bryan charged ff+3) and also for changing sides - your partner can run underneath, turn round and juggle the opponent from the other side. eg I'm pretty sure marduk / jack could do something like marduk ws+3, 1, df+4,2~5, \o/, run underneath, turn around jab, air throw.

Did you see if 2 was i10? Is d/b+2 still guaranteed after f,f+1 or can people tag-out? Did you feel that Jack had his movement improved?

And good stuff on your Marduk/Jack idea.

db+2 after ff+1, still guaranteed, I dunno if you can eat it grounded then tag punish it though, seems very possible

couldn't determine 2 being i10, sorry, didn't have much time for testing as the machine was constantly full of people wanting to play. f+2 does seem to do a lil more damage though.

another reason why jack is benefited from the tag system is that he can punish tags from miles away with ff+1+2 and windmills.

Windmills is the juiciest combo-starter ever.. 42 damage just for the launcher lol

Not to mention hcf+2(~5)...

Or don't forget his f,f+2, nice range on it if you dash it.

Random Animation: if you are using Jack-6 and Alisa, on the Christmas stage, if you lose, they play in the snow.

Really? Now I'm tempted to make this happen just to see what it looks like (while Giant Santa is there in the bkgd swilling beer and tearing huge chunks off what must be a roasted ostrich drumstick with his teeth)

This made my day. Someone get a vid of that asap

just confirmed it's the same animation on all stages, they slide on the ground.

Just wanted to say, db+1 ws2,1 rinse and repeat has been getting me a lot of mileage. The ws2,1 seems to have enough advantage to make it hard to interrupt another db+1 (otherwise people just aren't looking for it yet).

Can WS2,1 be delayed?