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XelNaga
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
http://www.youtube.com/nakajoy01#p/u/1/c8d-C92l8rA

Here you see around the 5:35 mark that Jun's f2 does not hit ling grounded for some reason, maybe because of the tech getup
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aPY...nel_video_title

looks like this uf+4,3 is guaranteed after a CH FC,df+2. It lands twice in this video. Maybe the guy just wasn't blocking.

~edit~

It also works in this video against a different opponent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAsWk6oqVKI#t=30s
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
What low is this at 0:19? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeoW9MRoUM
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by LawrenceW
What low is this at 0:19? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeoW9MRoUM

I think it's d/b+2 . Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by luksgammer360
I think it's d/b+2 . Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


You are right!
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
Hi guys, I'm new here and would like to ask you something?

2,1,4,3_2 : What do the last hits look like(3 and 2)?
What's her unblockable move like, the same as Asuka's?
Have you guys ever seen her 10 hits string yet, how does it look?


I've watched many vids of hers through youtube but never saw any of those I mention above.
One more thing, Is f+2 guaranteed after 1+3 or 2+4 throw? I saw Nina got hit by that couple times. I don't know if she got hit because she tried to side roll or something.
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Ariest
Hi guys, I'm new here and would like to ask you something?

2,1,4,3_2 : What do the last hits look like(3 and 2)?
What's her unblockable move like, the same as Asuka's?
Have you guys ever seen her 10 hits string yet, how does it look?


I've watched many vids of hers through youtube but never saw any of those I mention above.
One more thing, Is f+2 guaranteed after 1+3 or 2+4 throw? I saw Nina got hit by that couple times. I don't know if she got hit because she tried to side roll or something.


1) If you press 3, you get a high kick. If you press 2, a mid punch (animation like her unblockable b+2+3)

2) She has two unblockable moves:
a) 1+4,3 (hold) : the same kick as Asuka's f+3 (hold)
b) b+2+3

3) I saw Unknown performing 7 out of 10 hits of the string. The notation is: WS+1,1,1+4,2,1,1+2,4,4,3. She begins with WS+1, then connects the same hit as 1 in b+2,1 , then her classic 1+4. After, she performs her standing 2,1,1+2.

That's all I know lol.
Sadly, I can't play the game, so I don't know about the last thing. It can be, because normaly f+2 hits grounded.
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cAdTAeiHLU

what is that string that I see this guy use with Jun in the tag combos?
one starts at 0:30

then she does the string at 2:02 but it's blocked
then another tag from baek(3:02) she connects again with

what is that move?

I'll be picking her up as a main
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
Does Jun have a brain dead launcher like d/f+2 or a hopkick? From vids I see of her so far, u/f+4,3 seem to be her version of a hopkick but it bounds so its not very good damage wise. And the other launcher I've seen is f+2. What other launchers does she have?
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
the string is ff2,3

no, jun has no brain dead launcher which is why she dropped in the tier list lol

launchers:

f2~5, i17, -20 on block
cancan~5 (ch d3+4), i14, lh, jails if the low hits
ff1+2, hella slow but mid and safe, massive range
ch1+2, i14, breakable DOS stun, safe
ws3, i19, -21 on block, can't remember if it was taggable
b3~5, i16, -23 on block
ch ff4, i16, safe, like jin's f4
chb4, i15, safe
ch4, i11, safe

f1+2 (into stance), 1+2~5, safe version of lars' DE 1+2, mid, tech crouch, taggable
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by IRON LOBSTER
the string is ff2,3

no, jun has no brain dead launcher which is why she dropped in the tier list lol

launchers:

f2~5, i17, -20 on block
cancan~5 (ch d3+4), i14, lh, jails if the low hits
ff1+2, hella slow but mid and safe, massive range
ch1+2, i14, breakable DOS stun, safe
ws3, i19, -21 on block, can't remember if it was taggable
b3~5, i16, -23 on block
ch ff4, i16, safe, like jin's f4
chb4, i15, safe
ch4, i11, safe

f1+2 (into stance), 1+2~5, safe version of lars' DE 1+2, mid, tech crouch, taggable


omg. Does that mean Jun can only launch punish -17 + moves with f+2? What are the frames for u/f+4, 3 then? No wonder she dropped so suddenly in the tier list. Still looking forward to using her though.
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
uf4,3 i16

hey - steve still wins and he gets no launch until i19!
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
agreed jun is somewhat hindered in the launch department, her taggables are
f+1,4 same as asuka's
f+2 same as asuka's
f+1+2,2
f+1+2,3
f+1+2,3+4
d+3+4 can cans
b+3
b+3,2
ws+3 same as asukas
df>d>df+1+2 asuka's throw
b+1+3/2+4 reversal, also gives nice +fake frames

a better idea is to tag launch with partner and juggle with jun as she has some great carries.
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
some of those require ch and are too slow/impractical to land outside of setups but thanks for a complete and concise list

the best thing about jun is that she's incomplete and flawed (like all interesting FG charas) but with distinct strengths (tracking and + frames) that make her dynamic enough to be fun and winnable

fuck it shes got a jab, magic 4, df2, f2, cancan and db3 - she'll win
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
she has a very nice jab string.

2,1,4,3 is also quite a nice string, relatively safe but i'm not sure if the last hit is duck or if its jails earlier, but each hit is delayable and at least 4,3 is NCc.

another thing i love about her is she is the 50/50 queen (coming from lili that has no 50/50s) every stance can go low/mid/high and she has most of asuka's useful 50/50 game, i can't say i've looked at her frames yet but we won't really know until home versions come out and everything can be capped bit by bit, inatekken is very unreliable in there t6 data and thats been out for ages.
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
well, she has a 1,2 string

1,2,4 is hhm and safe

2,1,4,3, the last two hits can be ducked, punished and don't jail

b,2,1,4_1 the 4 can be ducked and the 1 can be punished

the best thing about her strings is the option to ss on hit or on block after the first two hits of 1,2_2,1_b2,1

as for her 50/50's, they aren't particularly strong (still good), her only nh knd low comes from her stance, outside of that db3 is her unsafe go to low, paul, julia, mishimas still have way better 50/50's, jun's low game is good because of the +frames and tech crouches she gets but she's no 50/50 female like anna and julia - they get the crown for that

her frames are good, although it looks from recent vids that db3 is less + on hit as it was from the E3 build, time - and a tester will tell

that said, people aren't using her stances in the match vids we've been seeing at all, considering that f1+2 is a homing move, use of that to catch step into a 50/50 with 1+2 and HS would definately be a thing, either people aren't using her that way yet or it's not a good strat - depends on the speed of f1+2 i suppose
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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
f1+2 is great but horribly slow and is very easy to jab through before you even hit.

when i was saying she's 50/50 queen i mean she just has so many, i know a lot aren't really broken but she can land so many small 2 hitters it makes a great mixup game. i'm pretty certain out of one of her stances she has a few parry/reversal frames (b+2 or b+1+2) really can't remember which is a nice incentive to stop jab spamming and opens up more of a mixup game for you.

db+3 really seems like an amazing move so i wouldn't be surprised if it has some loss of frames on it, you go very low and and the range is pretty far aswell. follow up with f+2 you'll probably catch a lot of people.

shame about 2,1,4,3 though i guess you can go 2,1,4,1 to catch duckers.
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
off db3 on hit jun gets and uninterruptable fc ch df2 fish_FR (providing they don't mash hopkick), ws4 or ws2,1

f2 requires a cc and is a very risky option being -20 that and it's beatable by d1_d4

off 1,2_2,1_b2,1, if/once your opp figures out the follow ups your better off using the +frames to mixup cancan_1+2_db3_df2,2_throws, i've been making a living off db3_1+2 at 3 location tests now
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
what are juns punisher from 10 to 15 frames? anything special?
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
Can someone post all moves that have the ability to transit into f1+2 ?

Thanks

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