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jAy-kEi
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Steve thread

Noteable changes

Changes that favor him:
- PAB d1 can be done as fc df1
- PABdf1121 first hit CH gives full launch. You can see him float so its "confirmable" if you need to do the last 2 hits.
- b2 on normal hit like b2 CH in BR, -10 on block
- fff2 seems to have a better hitbox
- f21~f for PAB
- b1d2~f for PAB (high low, old b12 in BR)
- PAB f2 wallsplats
- 311 is NC
- ss1+2 ff2 works?

Changes that dont favor him:
- df2 CH -> nothing seems guaranteed
- FLK1d1 (first hit CH) -> no ff2
- parry ff2 doesnt work
- db32, db32 near wall doesnt work
- PABdf12 ff2 near wall doesnt work
- b1d21 (old b121) -> no juggle on hit or CH
- b2 -> d212 ff2 doesnt work
- 112 not +3 (probably +1) on hit
- PAB d2 only trips on CH
- ws1+2 = -15 at least
- PABdf1121 3rd hit is now -10

New moves
f1+2,1 (m,m,h) NC (confirmed) free db2. Last hit is hitconfirmable. hold f for PAB. i17~i18
b12 (h,h) NC hold f for PAB

Tag Assault:
After early B!
df121~FLK1~3+4~2
df121~FLK~DCK1
PAB b1121
DCKf2~DCK1

After late B!
DCK1
EXT DCK1
df1+2

Tag-able Launchers:
ws1+2
EXT DCK1
DCK2 (EXT)
PABuf2
PABdf2
412

Tag-able Throws:
qcb+2+4

B! moves
ff2
d2~1,2
ws12
321
PAB121
FLK2
FLK1f1
SWY1
PABdf1121
fff2

W! moves
qcf1
3+4~2
3+4~u/d~1
PABf2
311
DCK1

Last edited by jAy-kEi on Oct 16th, 2011 at 10:20

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eddy_rulz
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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
thnx alot for info..keep it coming..
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Abigan2K
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
hi jay, thanks for the info, id like to ask if they changed pab d/f+1,1 recovery on block.. since u can CH confirm it for a launch, i would expect that it should be around -5 to -9 if not -10.. if it remains the same way in BR then it may be too powerful (i think it was at 0 correct me if im wrong)

another thing is if steve goes to PAB after a fc d/f+1
jAy-kEi
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Hi Abigan2K

Steve can go to PAB after fc df1

About PAB df11, inatekken wiki says its -7 on block in BR. And afaik it felt the same in TTT2. I cant tell you the exact frames yet, but I'll try to test sometime if possible.
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Abigan2K
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thanks for the info.. no real need to check -7 is pretty fair in my book

thanks again
Master D.
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks for the information so far jAy-kEi. I was wondering if the 2 in d/f+1,2 is still duckable on block and has the range on d/f+1+2 changed? Also, how safe is FLK after transitions like b+1~FLK?
jAy-kEi
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
Hi

- df12 is duckable
- sonic fang range is the same
- b1~FLK is the same
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Master D.
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Well, at least b+1~FLK stayed the same. I was afraid they might nerf that as well. Now that f,f+2 is back to f,f,N+2, is it homing like in DR and can you confirm if it is -13 or -11?
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
Hi

- ff2 is still the same notation
- its not homing, the move is still -13 and is similar to the 6.0 ff2
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Master D.
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Wait, if f,f+2 requires no N input how come you can't juggle after CH d/f+2, CH FLK 1, d+1, and after parry? Did they make f,f+2 slower?
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Originally posted by Master D.
Wait, if f,f+2 requires no N input how come you can't juggle after CH d/f+2, CH FLK 1, d+1, and after parry? Did they make f,f+2 slower?


They tweaked the hitbox, it doesnt hit grounded anymore like it did in BR. Its like 6.0 now
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Master D.
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Oh, that's not good for Steve lol. Well, thanks for the info once again.
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damn. I hope they have those updates to the games and change him up to the way he is in t6br just with new moves. if anything put steve with a character that can do the things he can't. lee can combo off the ground I think. theres things we can still do. sticking with steve all the way(maybe)
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New updates

- b2 on hit is the same as BR b2 CH, however because d212 ff2 B! doesnt work, I have to figure out some other combos. b2 is now -10 on block. best combo I could pull off without TA was b2, d21~DCK1, ff2 B!, df1+2
- 112 is not +3 anymore on hit

Last edited by jAy-kEi on Sep 15th, 2011 at 10:43

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aasii
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thnx for the info
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jAy-kEi
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
Np bro,

- fff2 seems to have a better hitbox. Almost like DR version.
- I can not confirm it yet, but PABf2 seems to W! I'll confirmm this later
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@jAy-kEi
is there anyway for you to record the information you putting out? I would love to see it in action
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Originally posted by Reflex-2good2nd
@jAy-kEi
is there anyway for you to record the information you putting out? I would love to see it in action


This is PhantomXD. didn't know friend signed me out.
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jAy-kEi
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Hmm, I'll try but I need someone to cap it for me. I'll let you guys know.
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Come back to Holland and play Tekken 6 >=)

df2 CH ff+2 B doesn't work, damn that's a huge nerf...
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