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Ive been seeing these a lot lately and I've only done a few by accident.
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f,f+2 during their punch? I think that's what you are referring to.

We need an ask a Q, get an Ans thread up in this bruce forums.
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Originally posted by MCP
f,f+2 during their punch? I think that's what you are referring to.

We need an ask a Q, get an Ans thread up in this bruce forums.


During any punch? High mid low?
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Originally posted by Gilbert_pwns
During any punch? High mid low?


High or mid - The first 5-10 frames of the move have a built in counter that will reverse any punches (but not elbows and not most unblockables)
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try using my mix up... try 3,3 then ff2
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MCP plz edit the title of this thread to a Q and A thread. That would be a good idea.
There are heaps of setups for ff+2. EG f+1+2, cd1, ff+3 MTS2. As usual no setup for punch parry works on everyone. The best way is to watch them play and ff+2 when you expect them to punch.
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Bruce mods:
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Ask and you shall receive.
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Which combo does more damage?
cd+2, f+3, f+3, d/f+4,f+1, b! 32f1, 32f2
or
cd+2, f+3, d/f+4,f+1, b! ff,b,f+3, 32f1, 32f2

Someone was telling me the damage gets reduced if I do the two knees before the bound.

If that's true, then I'll do cd+2, f+3+4, d/f+4,f+1 dash b,f+3 from now on unless I need to wall carry.


Also, besides those two combos, do I need to bound?
cd+2, f+3, f+3, 32f1, 32f1, 32f2 is this less damage than the two above combos?
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anyone can post the strongest damage of bruce juggles? tnx..
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Ill hazard a guess at the above question:

b,f+4, b,f+4, f+4,3,4, MTS 3, W!, d+3+4 B!, f+3,1, db+2,1,4 - around 70-75%
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Originally posted by toothy
Ill hazard a guess at the above question:

b,f+4, b,f+4, f+4,3,4, MTS 3, W!, d+3+4 B!, f+3,1, db+2,1,4 - around 70-75%


roughly true.

but just reading that makes me go "OW!"

if I had to play against a Bruce as handsome as me I'd prolly be the #1 Bruce hater going.


hmmm...try to answer a question..

edit:
ok found one.
Originally posted by toothy
High or mid - The first 5-10 frames of the move have a built in counter that will reverse any punches (but not elbows and not most unblockables)


2-10. but who's counting? [or fact checking on the bruce forums haha]

People love the 3,3 setup it seems.
Does it work, sometimes, why not.
But like anything else, he has better things...

During the recovery of (3),3 you have very small window to enter that f,f2.
1- if you do it too quick (VERY easy to do) you get a f+2.
2- If you do it a lil slow, you get a f,f+2 but faster moves will interrupt you (including jabs)

if you ask yourself why does it work sometimes though?
Its because chances are your doing #2 and your opponent is slow in retaliating so you still get a successful snap crackle pop

contributions.

Q:
Why do no top Bruce players post? I'll be pissed if someone like Kor is using him and completely silent
Bruce is so easy even someone like Insanelee can play him.
Where are the good bruce users!


Last edited by Devoted on Sep 19th, 2009 at 13:16

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i am a new player having as my main...

people say bruce is one of the best character in the new tekken6BR...

can anyone help me in finding moves that gives him positive frames? follow-ups perhaps?

help me pls.
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Originally posted by sayuri
i am a new player having as my main...

people say bruce is one of the best character in the new tekken6BR...

can anyone help me in finding moves that gives him positive frames? follow-ups perhaps?

help me pls.


Apparently Devoted is meant to be doing some big Bruce project which will likely include frame data, but that was started a long time ago and not much, if anything, has been added to it since he created it. Until he gets around to working on it, try this site instead:

INA Tekken wiki

This lists all of Bruce's frame data - most of it is correct but be prepared to do some testing if you want clarification on some moves.
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Hey guys, i'll be honest I don't really have much intrest for Bruce, but there was one combo that really caught my eye:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-McYOtm_LU - 0:31

Now from I saw, Bruce picked up a FDFA opponent into a juggle, I have no clue how this is possible but does any other character in tekken have anything similar?

I might start Bruce if this is an exclusive combo to him, sorry if this seems like a pointless question but I didnt see where this Q would fit.
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That's ch ss+1+2 properties, a free juggle, unless I am mistaken.
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You are correct MCP.

Off the top of my head I cant think of other characters that get full juggles from FDFA opponents such as that one although Im sure there is. Other characters have equally odd pick-up juggles tho - Baek CH b+2, 4,3.... for example.
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by sayuri
i am a new player having as my main...

people say bruce is one of the best character in the new tekken6BR...

can anyone help me in finding moves that gives him positive frames? follow-ups perhaps?

help me pls.

Frame Advantage is overrated.
His 'MTS' stance is 'BS' btw

I think by Frame Advantage your just looking for the flow of when to attack and not attack.
For simple stuff, play around with his BS mixups. 2,4,BS~ and df4,BS~ can be annoying at low/high level play.
(+ piss easy)
And use his other strings. df1 and its extensions are pretty useful.

Frame Advantage doesn't mean shit to Bruce, a simple ssl kills 99% of his movelist. (seriously)


So to answer your next question should you stay with Bruce
try using ssr1+2, 3+4 and ff3 in your game more.

I finished testing Bruce pretty darn completely awhile ago, just have a few unique oki things I'd like to explore more and find motivation to sit in front of a computer for hours typing it all in.

btw, thanks for not random trashing me "toothy", that makes contributing less painless.
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
I am still looking for move that I can make 'track' side walk left ...

@Sayuri and other lurkers
Devoted is correct: Don't think of frames so much. They can help, but there are more important things to worry about.

I think 1000x more about spacing and reading my opponent.
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks MCP & Toothy
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