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pIchu
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
Please keep it T6 BR Asuka related and try to read through earlier posts to see if your question has already been answered.

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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
Sorry for this noobish question but..


How does d/f+1+2 and 2+3 work? I mean it parries right? But what does it parry? Are there any good setups for it? D:

It's been bugging me since T5. Haha. I know it's pretty useless but I just want to know what it parries and such.
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#3 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by bl00dsoaked
Sorry for this noobish question but..


How does d/f+1+2 and 2+3 work? I mean it parries right? But what does it parry? Are there any good setups for it? D:

It's been bugging me since T5. Haha. I know it's pretty useless but I just want to know what it parries and such.


df+1+2 parries low attacks and 2+3 parries punches except low. pretty useless moves unless you wanna be flashy or something.
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nadespam
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
This may not be BR related, but Asuka in general. Does anyone know the frames for db1+2, destabilizer? I'm guessing ~20f... other than that fact and it's linear-ness, it does give +4. I've actually been thinking of abusing it a bit more seeing as I never use it because I don't even remember I have it.
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exorcisor_X
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
df1+2- it parries low and puts Asuka into a crouching position
sometimes i use this against those who uses low kick for wake up
(but then again low parry/block is much safer than this
it is also punishable because of its i42 frames or so)
2+3- parries mid and high punches
i don't use this... maybe if i'm going to fight Steve...

I guess its frames are like the general throws...
also i only use this against NANCY-450645-2 or whatever her name is
if you use this against her you will interupt her upcoming attack
(beware: she sometimes stomps after you use this against her)
many players will just block after this move...
(agressive players will suffer from this move
i always follow it up with b4 hoping for CH )
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
is asuka's SS+2 safe?
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nadespam
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by exorcisor_X
I guess its frames are like the general throws...
also i only use this against NANCY-450645-2 or whatever her name is
if you use this against her you will interupt her upcoming attack
(beware: she sometimes stomps after you use this against her)
many players will just block after this move...
(agressive players will suffer from this move
i always follow it up with b4 hoping for CH )


Well... isn't general throws like 14~16f but destabilizers looks slower than that. Because if it is as fast as that, technically, Asuka too has a DORIYA... but I doubt it.

Originally posted by SkylitDrive
is asuka's SS+2 safe?


It's not safe but is a pretty decent panic attack. It is -12f and seeing as many players 12f punishment has been upgraded, it's a move which you can't abuse but you can use it more often than not.
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
Sorry for such a noob question.

Challenged a Jack-6 and I tried db+2 db+1 1+4 2,1,1+2 B! The db+1 WON'T let Asuka go to the other side. Does it not work on bigs? Thanks very much.
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
@nadespam - destabilizer is awesome vs any level of play as people who like to press buttons will eat a ch4 and more experienced vs asuka players will have to deal with a throw mixup or duck a possible 4 or throw risking a 1+2 for their trouble

if youre opponent is sharp at throw breaking and general defence then you could chance poking with d4, db3, db4 into FC mixups or risk 3~4

or to really piss them off if they have solid defence (too patient/panicking) destabilize them again!

i know this should be in strats but i heard someone say 'destabiliser'!
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exorcisor_X
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#10 “Quote” Edit Post
help!
i have problems on waking up
(really, you can kill me by making me lay down on the floor)
when should i use these:
tech roll
backroll/front roll
side roll
fake roll to reverse dive kick
mid wake-up kick
low wake-up kick

and also the one i hate the most:
i got knocked near the wall and they just spam a low until i die and i can't do anything (maybe i'm just panicking but still)
(like king spamming db3or 4)
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
help too!!

what's the best time to use b+1? I often use this but I was always punished.
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
@ dots4eva
b+1? I use this when opponent is cornered by wall, if you are lucky to be you might get the throw/CH who does deal chunkies of damage. Beware if you spam this especially characters with WS/WC punishable (e.g like Law's WS 2 Bob's WS 2,1 Zafina's WS 2)
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
Thanks for the b+1 setup. How about the best time to use 3~4? My friends already know my setups..
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by FAtAl_FAnATiC
@ dots4eva
b+1? I use this when opponent is cornered by wall, if you are lucky to be you might get the throw/CH who does deal chunkies of damage. Beware if you spam this especially characters with WS/WC punishable (e.g like Law's WS 2 Bob's WS 2,1 Zafina's WS 2)


I never knew you could punish b+1 with those moves...
I always thought it's like -11f (since DR).

Dunno, b+1 doesn't seem to be useful... It's slow (like 20s frames? 30?), punishable and can be parried,
Anyway you wanna use b+1 if you know you're gonna crush high strings... Williams' 1, 2, 1 string for example and you want to do it with a good timing.

3~4
1. oki
2. after your hardcore mid poking,

if your foe knows your 'setup' then it's either you're being predictable or your foe is very good at spotting this move naturally... If the 1st one is the case then change your setup ; if 2nd is the case don't do this move, it is a good low IMO - it's hard to spot (some ppl could see it easily).

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nadespam
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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by exorcisor_X
help!
i have problems on waking up
(really, you can kill me by making me lay down on the floor)
when should i use these:
tech roll
backroll/front roll
side roll
fake roll to reverse dive kick
mid wake-up kick
low wake-up kick

and also the one i hate the most:
i got knocked near the wall and they just spam a low until i die and i can't do anything (maybe i'm just panicking but still)
(like king spamming db3or 4)
have a good day


Well... majority of the time it's safest to stay on the ground get hit and get up which ever way you like. Some characters may be able to do a lot of damage but atleast you don't get knocked back down a million times. Should work at the wall too... if not, then after you get kicked wait a bit and hold db. Your character will stand up and be able to block low attacks. Of course once they know you're gonna do this they may hopkick you, so you'll just have to take a gamble every once in awhile.
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
Catkitty's right.
b+1's hella slow and predictable

@dots4eva

why not try df+3 ?..it's fast, mid punisher ...sometimes knocked me off without knowing it'll come.


i'll be practicing Asuka one of this days,
guess now's the time to have my secondary char.
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pIchu
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Come on guys.. just leave it. If you really don't like his misleading information, just don't read his posts. You don't have keep up this insistent hate and it certainly isn't welcomed.

About b+1... I try not to use it. For it's speed, you simply don't get much in return. On normal hit you don't get awesome... I don't think you even get good frames... maybe +1? I don't remember. Of course on CH iti's good but if you're going for the high crushing attack, you have much better options.

Relying on luck is a terrible way to play. It's like you have limited skill and trying to make it up with luck. Instead, get better at the game and stop waiting for luck.
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
allegedly in br laws d2,3 is -15 on block can anyone confirm?

it definately felt that way in a match earlier where my 1+2 punisher just didnt happen - it cost my match vs the legendary cobra commander! (looks to the sky with determination!)

anyway if so any alternate recommendations? im thinking of using the +frames from b4 for mixups

-15 say it isnt so!
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nadespam
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by IRON LOBSTER
allegedly in br laws d2,3 is -15 on block can anyone confirm?

it definately felt that way in a match earlier where my 1+2 punisher just didnt happen - it cost my match vs the legendary cobra commander! (looks to the sky with determination!)

anyway if so any alternate recommendations? im thinking of using the +frames from b4 for mixups

-15 say it isnt so!


Not sure about the frames on Law's d2,3... but... Asuka's 1+2 is 16f which may have cause you your lose.
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
yup in dr it was the thing to do as d2,3 was -16 i just need confirmation that it werent my bad timing but if it is -15 now thats bad for asuka

ps i cant remember who asked but detabilizer (db1+2) is i14 - since 5.0
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