Baek in BR [FAQ 1st post] (UPDATED 9/10/09)

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Aken
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
some news on Baek

my friend is in Japan and he got a chance to test some BR this is what he told me so far

changes

f+4,3 string or f+4,3~f in to fla just like tag day is back
and f+4 also give B!
his tracking move command now become f+3+4

d+2 on hit send opponent flying ... no more follow up juggle and still hit grounded

new string/move
d/f+1,3~f mid,high in to fla
ss +3 ss in to a low kick nothing special so far

btw Im a Baek user my self but quit playing since DR
NoodleHead
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Aken
some news on Baek

my friend is in Japan and he got a chance to test some BR this is what he told me so far

changes

f+4,3 string or f+4,3~f in to fla just like tag day is back
and f+4 also give B!
his tracking move command now become f+3+4

d+2 on hit send opponent flying ... no more follow up juggle and still hit grounded

new string/move
d/f+1,3~f mid,high in to fla
ss +3 ss in to a low kick nothing special so far

btw Im a Baek user my self but quit playing since DR


thx for the info, Aken.

d+2 sending opp flying = toning down, imo. I hope that they aren't thinking of nerfing him any further, haha.

Also, if you do d/f+1,3, you don't go into FLA? What did your friend feel about the recovery in either case (d/f+1,3 vs. d/f+1,3~f)
Aken
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by NoodleHead
thx for the info, Aken.

d+2 sending opp flying = toning down, imo. I hope that they aren't thinking of nerfing him any further, haha.

Also, if you do d/f+1,3, you don't go into FLA? What did your friend feel about the recovery in either case (d/f+1,3 vs. d/f+1,3~f)


maybe its not that bad if d+2 become safe move xD
eg wall game
d+2 wall splat f,f+3,B!,d/f+1,d+4,3,3

mmm...about the recovery and such Im not sure if I can rely on that guy for detail so cant help u guys here ^^"
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
guys, have you heard about the bound system of T5DR at psp?? here's a sample video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDhLuYiHXw

BTW, the download of the cheat system is already available.. Finally, something to practice about.. since Ps# is so expensive.. I think its worth a try since not all of us are at the arcade to practice..
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
can you teach me that cheat??
thanks ! salamat!
thats interesting.
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
The procedure and the download links are available also at the forums, here's the link.. enjoy!!

http://tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/sh...mp;pagenumber=4
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
the tekken6 bound in tekkenDR(japanese ver) psp CWcheat is very useful to those whose not familiar or having problems with baek's new moves like d/b+3,3~f, 2,3, 4,3,3,3~f(fla). enjoy!!!!!!!!

thanks!
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by JaPong
The procedure and the download links are available also at the forums, here's the link.. enjoy!!

http://tekkenzaibatsu.com/forums/sh...mp;pagenumber=4


The problem is, Baek's "2,3" in DR hack is done w/ 2,3? or 2,3~f?

Also, I hope they have the new move for 4,3,3~f?
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by NoodleHead
The problem is, Baek's "2,3" in DR hack is done w/ 2,3? or 2,3~f?

Also, I hope they have the new move for 4,3,3~f?


the GOOD NEWS is that:
you can do exactly 2,3..no need to press forward.
yes they have 4,3,3,3~f
and also fla~b+3(b!)

the BAD NEWS is that,
fla~b+3 is very hard to connect..
you can use 1+2 as alternative to fla~b+3(b!)



these are some moves that bound in tekken DR hack:
4,4
1+2
u/f+2
hunting hawk
d+2
u/f+1
JaPong
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
@kuma
it is because the properties of fla,b+3 in T5dr is different in the properties of fla,b+3 in T6.. and whew! i didnt know that baek in that hack version has 2,3,fla and 4,3,3,fla... now that's good to hear.. Im still having a hard time DL'ing the T5dr jap version, having problems while DL'ing it..
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
im just curious,
does 3+4 connects after B!?
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by kuma
im just curious,
does 3+4 connects after B!?


yess, and im about to make a video for that T5DR hack version, early juggle like df+2, 1,2,3~f,2,3~fla,1+2 B! 3+4~fla 1+2,4 is likely possible for it hehehe.. and one more thing, added to his bound combo is the string d+4,3,3

Guys, try it, its fun and baek only missed ss+3+4 and all stuffs are added on it..
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by JaPong
yess, and im about to make a video for that T5DR hack version, early juggle like df+2, 1,2,3~f,2,3~fla,1+2 B! 3+4~fla 1+2,4 is likely possible for it hehehe.. and one more thing, added to his bound combo is the string d+4,3,3

Guys, try it, its fun and baek only missed ss+3+4 and all stuffs are added on it..


also except fla~u/f+3..

i mean in tekken6 if 3+4 connects after B!?
yeah i think baek is the luckiest character in that hack.
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by kuma
also except fla~u/f+3..

i mean in tekken6 if 3+4 connects after B!?
yeah i think baek is the luckiest character in that hack.


yess it is also possible at T6, but you have to perform early bound juggle to be able to connect that, a longer juggle makes it nerfed.. and i agree, i think the one who hacked that game must've been a great baek fan Good for us since we can practice db+3,3~fla in that..
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malkxtkd
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
I get some info from here http://br.babelfish.yahoo.com/trans...nTrUrl=Traduzir


f2,1,4 is the new move in the old vid...
SS+3
3+4 B! ??? its really true , maybe like raven ff+3.

df1,4 ??

if some opne read japaneese...
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by malkxtkd
I get some info from here http://br.babelfish.yahoo.com/trans...nTrUrl=Traduzir


f2,1,4 is the new move in the old vid...
SS+3
3+4 B! ??? its really true , maybe like raven ff+3.

df1,4 ??

if some opne read japaneese...


No, you got it wrong, we're talking about doing 3+4 after bound juggles.. follow up 3+4 after B!
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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by malkxtkd
I get some info from here http://br.babelfish.yahoo.com/trans...nTrUrl=Traduzir


f2,1,4 is the new move in the old vid...
SS+3
3+4 B! ??? its really true , maybe like raven ff+3.

df1,4 ??

if some opne read japaneese...


I can a bit, but the link doesn't work. Do you have hte non-babelfished link?
toyamaK52
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by malkxtkd
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f2,1,4 is the new move in the old vid...
SS+3
3+4 B! ??? its really true , maybe like raven ff+3.

df1,4 ??

if some opne read japaneese...



u need? (that's my translate article from JPN to PRC )

BAEK :

orginal article from JPN
http://blog.livedoor.jp/dhc4mens/


1.2 - longer

f2.1 - when f2 hits , 1 can't be blocked (combo)

ff4 - when CH , rival is down

uf2 - when CH , rival is down

uf3.4.3 - something changes when hit (no more data )

ss3+4 - when blocked is -14F (ver.89 is -16F)

d4.3.3 - when CH all of them changed to be +F , like df4.4 (ver.89 is -F)

wall combo - now we can use 4.3.3f for it

3+4 (uf3+4) - hit easier (much lower) in combo after B!

d3.3 - when 1st CH , 2nd can't continue (no combo) , but still can't parry


new skill

df1.4 - mid high , when df1 hit 4 can hit (combo)

ub4 (can make in fla~) - mid , nothing special ( even CH )

ss3 - low , crouch , nothing special ( even CH )

f2.1.4 - mid high low

f4.3 - mid mid , 1st (f4) can B!
f4.3 b - mid fla~ , 1st (f4) can B!
f4.4 - mid low , 1st (f4) can B!

fla~ f4 - high , homing & can make wall stun

fla~ d1 - mid , ver.89 is ss1

f3+4 - high , ver.89 is f4
malkxtkd
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by malkxtkd
here is the link

http://www.tekken.com.cn/bbs/thread-10980-1-1.html


even better. it's not only Japanese, but traditional Chinese.

I am basically going to write mostly what Toyamak wrote, but w/ "maybes" on some:

Tune up/downs
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+1,2 range might be longer.
+4,3 is NC (like it wasn't before, lol).
+f+2,1 is NC. (Not sure if it's NC on delay, but I am feeling that it would.)
+f,f+4 down on CH. (very likely SLD down - face down, feet away)
+u/f+2 down on CH. (very likely SLD down - face down, feet away)
+u/f+3,4,3's property may have changed.
+ss+3+4 might be -14 on block instead of -16.
+d+4,3,3 on CH might have the same frame property as d/f+4,4 on CH. (+ on CH)
+4,3,3~f may be used for wall juggle.

-d+3,3 is no longer NC. However, just because u blocked the first still does not allow you to parry the second hit, kind of like the jail combo Anna had in TTT.
-----------------------------------------------------------------


New moves:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
d+1.4: (m,h) NC. (similar to Kazuya's, however, might not launch)
u/b+4: (m) new back-shift kick, w/ low hit box. No special property on CH atm.
ss+3: (l) May recover in crouch. Nothing special on CH.
f+2,1,4: (m,h,l) Not only the first two hits are NC, the low is also + on hit. Float post guard punish?
-----------------------------------------------------------------


Revived moves:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
f+4 series:

f+4,3 (m,m)
f+4,4 (m,L)
f+4,3~f_b (m,FLA)
f+4 B!s.

Good old FLA f+4's is back.hits high, homing, wall stun.
-----------------------------------------------------------------


Change in Property/input
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Old ss+1 is now done w/ d+1. Nothing special on CH.
T6's f+4 now has new input: f+3+4.
-----------------------------------------------------------------




Comment:

So..... d+1 is now a new move, d+2/d/b+2 is also special attack.... I hope that Baek can still low jab outa FLA w/ d/b+1, haha.

Last edited by NoodleHead on Dec 30th, 2008 at 21:04

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