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JaPong
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
Guys, I just thought we might want to have some infos versus other characters on what to do or how to punish them using baek's different moves and juggles..
so I guess some of you guys might want to add some info..

I know sounds nooby but these might come handy for some other baek players

and as for mad_hittman's request here are the list of the character in no particular order matchup punish lists, Ill edit this from time to time.. thanx

Lili's
-df3+4 can be punished with b+1 to bound it or df1,3 and start a juggle

Bob's
-ws2,2 can be ss when the first ws2 is blocked

Paul's
-d1,2 can be punished with 1+2,4
-qcb+3,2,1 (or qcb+3,2,3)

Jack-6's
-df2 can be punished with 2,2 and 1+2,4
-f1,2 can be punished with ws2,1 since its 2 is high
-b3,2 can be punished with ws2,1 since its 2 is high

Lars'
-u/f+3 - can be punished with b+4

Alisa's
-b+3+4,3+4 - if the first b+3+4 whiffs, 3+4~f Fla; 2,3 Fla it for a full combo

Yoshimitsu's
-1,2,1 can be ssl and can be punished with ssl+3+4 (a lot of yoshi player I encountered uses this kind of oki setup)

Asuka's
-f+2 is launch punishable with df+2 or punish with 1+2,4
-f,f+3 can't be reversed by her b2+4

Ling
-SSL is effective to her
-AOP: d+4,3,3,3~f
-RDS: if she does ff3, don't attack (RDS4 launch), but when she tends to do RDS b3+4: df3,4=BT trap. But highly recommended is to not attack.
-High crush, so use cd,N,ws44...




this is it for now, will update it from time to time...

Last edited by Marin on Jan 30th, 2010 at 11:42

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when you block jin's b+1,4... is cd+3 really guaranteed???
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having trouble fighting bob here...
any tips?
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
When against Paul and Hei when they use d+1, 2 after d+1 is blocked baek's 2, 2 is guaranteed.

Not that much of help just new here sorry.
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Originally posted by h0tpandesaL
When against Paul and Hei when they use d+1, 2 after d+1 is blocked baek's 2, 2 is guaranteed.

Not that much of help just new here sorry.


I dont think that its is guaranteed, the only thing you can do with it is to parry or to punish it with 1+2,4...
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Paul/Hei d+1 is -12 now, if they do d+1 by itself you can punish, but if they do D+1 and recover crouching they'll be ducking jabs I think...
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Originally posted by JaPong
I dont think that its is guaranteed, the only thing you can do with it is to parry or to punish it with 1+2,4...


BR - after punch parry, try pressing 3 immediately for a turning side round house kick. 2,2 still works
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Originally posted by jayvee
BR - after punch parry, try pressing 3 immediately for a turning side round house kick. 2,2 still works


Will test that kabayan.. most damage will be 3 or 2,2?
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Does Beak's d/b+4 track to the right?
Does Baek have poor tracking and is he week to any sides?
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by shadowlaw9000
Does Beak's d/b+4 track to the right?
Does Baek have poor tracking and is he week to any sides?


in BR, everyone's got 360 moves. Poor tracking shouldn't be an issue.
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uf+4 is good on jack6. All he can get for punishment is f+2(no 2,1). many jack players don't know that yet.
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Any tips against Nina?
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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
I had trouble with a Bruce Irvin player earlier.. any tips? I think i should have been more ... tricky and not make any unnecessary moves. LOL that's a tip in general.

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Have fought a good hwarang player today any tips on hwarangs mixup tnx
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I could really use some tips when fighting against Lili, she gives me a hell of a time. Any help is of course appreciated and thanks ahead of time.
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by BrandonMasters
I could really use some tips when fighting against Lili, she gives me a hell of a time. Any help is of course appreciated and thanks ahead of time.


i'm not sure of the notation for it but when she does that cartwheel like jump you can nail a b+1 and bound her out of it. d/b 3,3~f that skank up and away. lili players abuse the crap out of it. baek pity da fool.
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
yea Lili's d/f+3+4 can be a bugger.
or you can do d/f+1,3 which you can juggle from.

for bruce - parry his cd+3 and punish cd+2 with Baek's 1+2,4
d/f+1,2,1 is m.m.h so duck last hit, parry d/f+1,4 if possible (more from guessing than reacting)
d+4 i heard is launch punishable but i havent confirmed that yet
3-cd (3,2~f) mixups can be evaded with a poke or risk a ss+3+4 for better reward.
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
Guys, since this is going to be a very loong thread i suggest that the 1st post should contain the important stuff (this is how i saw it in some other forums):
Make a list of all the characters, post their moves & suggest how they should be punished...

For example:

Lars
- u/f+3 - can be punished with b+4

Alisa
- b+3+4,3+4 - if the first b+3+4 whiffs, 3+4~f Fla; 2,3 Fla it for a full combo

Paul
- qcb+3,2,1 (or qcb+3,2,3) - should low parry the last hit because the 3 hits low & the 1 hits high. If they do 3,2,1 ws+2,1 it. win/win situation for Baek. ETC

The list should be sorted alphabetically & updated on a regular basis.

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Hwoarang - Generally the tip to stop his mixps is ssr on RFS and ssl on LFS. However obviously there are things hwoarang could do that would still connect.

Bruce doesn't have the best tracking. Sidestep as often as you can. His ff+3 is relatively slow and 3+4 is high. They say b+1+2 tracks one direction (left?), as far as i know its been sidestepped both ways against me.
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