Why is Michelle (almost) as good as JC?

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Vainj
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To be honest I haven't had time to sit down and fully explore her, but I notice that on different tier lists she ranks at, or very close to, JC. But I see in her, is a toned down version that I wouldn't rank on par with her at all. On top of my head what she lacks (that I use regularly with JC):

* All of the f+3 rolls strings
* b+2,1+2
* db+4
* f,f+3+4
* df+3+4
* db+1+2 stuff
* f+4:1+2
* 3~b (for wall combos - I know she has d,df~1,4 instead)
* f+2+3
* b+2+3 (honestly didn't test this one, I just assume she lacks it)
* F+1+2 (I didn't test this one either)
* d+2+3
* Back turned stuff

And she has (at least in my opinion) worse okizeme options off a lot of throws and knock downs (except Mad Axes).

In return she gets.. what..
* f+3 dash, which is nice, but imo inferior to JC's roll.
* ff+1+2
* ss+1_2
* df+2,3,1 (is that the notation?)
* d+2,3,1 (her best addition imo)


What am I missing that makes her as good as JC? Or am I the only one who thinks that the moves she's lacking is key to her?
IRON LOBSTER
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http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forum...p;pagenumber=10

Post #198 onwards.

Michelle's best new move is isw.

In a tier list Changs would have to be ranked together on the same spot.
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Vainj
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Yeah okay, I did miss those posts. I guess I am the only one then The way I see it, Julia's shotgun got nerfed in ttt2 and in return she got a bunch of new tools. Michelle has neither, and I don't agree that she should be ranked the same as JC... All good though. JC/Michelle would be too lame a team anyway.
IRON LOBSTER
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Shotgun in TTT2 has the same frames/properties as in T6, shotgun,2 got the -13 nerf.

In terms of the same rank tier-wise, I mean in the sense that there are no characters that come in between them eg.

Mishimas > Nina > Bruce > Bobs > Leo > Feng > Lars > A.King > Julia > Michelle > Bryan > Drag > Steve > King

Violet > Lee just for Cossack Kicks as a tag-able whiff punisher but it's not enough to say have Violet > Marshall Law > Lee as it's too situational to separate them in a tier placing much like Julia's db4 - Better players don't get hit by it but everyone gets thrown at some point which is why MA_Dejavu is so savage and keeps them together along with elbow, shotgun, 4~2,1.

No one take that above tier list seriously please.

I still think Marshall > Forest. DSS cancels in the hands of a good Law still goes a long way.
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Vainj
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Yeah true.. and to be honest I wouldn't know who'd go in between.

She seems a bit more focused on their core game. Less versatile, but the really important moves are still good.

I dunno... think I'll stick to my Ling/JC & Jack/JC for now
jaguar94
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I wish JC had Michelle's f+3 series as well as her MA/ISW oki options. Overall, I think JC's new TT2 moves make her less predictable than Michelle's. Which what makes JC a stronger character imo.
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What NAMCO needs to do is give Michelle T5DR's CH 1,2,1. ^_^
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Yeh I miss CH 121
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Lol instant S tier Michelle with ch 1,2,1 XD.
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