T6BR -> TTT2 Lei - New moves and Key properties

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Battousai
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
@Kensei: Yes, I know you're from the Philippines, but I'm not I've been away for a while now.
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Battousai
@Kensei: Yes, I know you're from the Philippines, but I'm not I've been away for a while now.

you in Japan now?
please show us WS3+4...
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
No, not in Japan. Singapore. No TTT2 here yet..
Judging by your replies, I'm guessing TTT2 hasn't arrived there yet, as well. So your comparison between

CH BT d1 4,4B! and CH BT d1 WS2 1, fn2, ff2B, damage-wise

is not yet confirmed, right? But I think you're correct anyway
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
Pretty sure this is WS3+4 guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxfdnTrBtQ#t=6m16s
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
Looks very logical, since it doesn't matches any other new notation. What left to know is how useful as a launcher it is.
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Yeah, just as everyone thought ws+3+4 is the move that Suiken does in the vid above.

Here it's being applied rather nicely.


Honestly, I didn't know that b+2 could recover crouching, I don't remember it doing that during the my time with the last build. Anyways, it looks pretty fast and of course since it's Lei, it looks awesome.

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thanks for the post the WS3+4 looks safe and pushes back... nice addition WS mix ups...
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
db4~f DRU3,2B! ff3,4 still possible??? anyone confirmed this???
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I highly doubt that ws+3+4 is safe, most likely it's -13 or more. Yes, Lei still gets his staple juggle from d/b+4.
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by The Exalted
I highly doubt that ws+3+4 is safe, most likely it's -13 or more. Yes, Lei still gets his staple juggle from d/b+4.


do you know anything about the speed of ws3+4?
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by green)Lei
do you know anything about the speed of ws3+4?


It's about 15 or 16 frames to my knowledge.
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
nice! that would finally mean goodbye hopkick. lets hope its not too unsafe. can you test that?
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
Hey, I want someone to try out this combo whether it does or does not bound, but see if any of you can try this combo: low parry f+3,1, 1+2,1, BT 4,4
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by green)Lei
nice! that would finally mean goodbye hopkick. lets hope its not too unsafe. can you test that?
ina says -16
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
@Ultimat: That won't bound because it's coming off a low parry. I'd rather go for (assuming it will work):

   low parry, f+3,1, f+3,1,2~5

to try and remove some red bar.


Can anybody try these? I've posted them before, but I'm too lazy to look for it now:

d/f+2, f+3,1, 1+2,1, BT 4,4~5
CH BT d+1, iWS+2, 2, 1+2,1, BT 4,4~5
BT d+4~SSL, SSR, PAN 2, 2, 1+2,1, BT 4,4~5
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
How's the recovery on ws3+4? Does he stay low enough that a quick high will whiff?
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Hi guys,

this saturday at the Italian Tournament in Milan, there were 2 TTT2 Arcade.

I don't know if that were the last version.
I made some little test.

d,b+1 is High and mid crush fore sure. Pass under mid very easy.

b+2 is more fast and more ling of headbut, is Highcrush and recove in Crounch position.
Pressinf F goes in Dragon.

3+4, 1_2_3_4 don't have any parry properties. I don't know if our was the last version... I hope there wasn't. :-)

d/b+4 semm pass under high more better.

Finally after 7 Tekken a WS move that launch... YEEEEESSSSSS!!!!

WS+3+4 I think is about 16f but is punishable by 15f launcher... too bad. But better than nothing.

Juggle:

d/f+2 f+3,1 1+2,1 BT 4,4 B! TAG seems very stable.

Sorry I just test few tings for the few moments that we have the arcade.

Bye.
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by EvilDice
Juggle:

d/f+2 f+3,1 1+2,1 BT 4,4 B! TAG seems very stable.


Thank you for testing it out
And for all the other info as well.

WS+3+4 being punishable doesn't seem to bother me much since I see this move as being a punisher anyway.
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
Probably too much to expect, but is WS 3+4 a high crush move? SNK 3 is an example of a HC launcher, and since this new attack looks somewhat similar I'm hoping that random jabs can't interrupt it.
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One thing I am curious about but i think it is very unlikely they've done anything with it;

Back in the pre-T6 days;
3+4 and 4~3 from SLD
4~3 and 3~4 from FCD

...did not require sleeping stance, as the stance never existed.

Since T6, they've made it that it requires you to go to the sleeping stance before you can do those moves. I thought this gave Lei more of a disadvantage and weakened his wake up games.

I'm OK with the newer moves like FCDs 3, requiring sleeping stance but those older moves should be executable without the need for the stances

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