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StoonCoold
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#181 “Quote” Edit Post
Er.. what's up with Julia's 4~2,1 it's sometimes NC sometimes not idk.. Uh.. Why do I hate Julia so much? Probably because I'm always pwn'd by naturelover. I'm pretty sure that naturelover is known for being a good Julia player. I hate it when he comes to the place where I regularly play T6BR. I'm only 3rd Dan in the arcades and he's an Overlord. Lol so that's 3rd Dan vs Overlord.
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#182 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by StoonCoold
Er.. what's up with Julia's 4~2,1 it's sometimes NC sometimes not idk.. Uh.. Why do I hate Julia so much? Probably because I'm always pwn'd by naturelover. I'm pretty sure that naturelover is known for being a good Julia player. I hate it when he comes to the place where I regularly play T6BR. I'm only 3rd Dan in the arcades and he's an Overlord. Lol so that's 3rd Dan vs Overlord.


It's only guaranteed at the outer range, if she is to close the high punch that follows almost instantly after the lowkick breaks the guaranteed mid followup.
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#183 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Darth-Kazama
CDS~qcf = CDS,CD. e.g. CDS~qcf+2 = CDS,CD+2 = (E)WHF

Small error here I think. You can't EWHF from CDS iirc.
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#184 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by kathy025
Small error here I think. You can't EWHF from CDS iirc.


CDS~f~n,d,df:2 = ewhf from CDS.
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#185 “Quote” Edit Post
Nailed it! Oh I see...

Question though, isn't it that after CDS~f~n, you're technically out of CDS-cancel i.e. n ends the CDS-cancel? Like CDS~f+2_4 and CDS~qcf+2_4 are "legitimate" CDS-cancel moves per se, but CDS~f~n,d,d/f+2 is actually already a combination of separate inputs for CDS~cancel and EWHF. The quick animation creates the illusion of EWHF coming "directly" from CDS-cancel. Or at least that's how I see it. But eh, it works.
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#186 “Quote” Edit Post
well i can't help it if the command for an ewhf has a neutral, can i? :p

srs though. cds~f basically is cancelling into a dash, so cds~f~n,d,df:2 is just a dewhf. if you mean cancelling cds straight into a cd using df and then trying to ewhf (b+1,df:2 or something) then that's not possible.

honestly though, the only cds~cancel moves needed are cds~f+2, cds~f,f+3 and cds~df+1 anyways, anything else is just being flashy xD
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#187 “Quote” Edit Post
Flashy is good! lol

CDS~f+4 is becoming pretty neat too.
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#188 “Quote” Edit Post
Not bad, Not bad. But there is more to Jin Kazama then he has mention,he is missing more key points that he has yet to even discover or miss. Just keep training hard with Jin and you will see what I mean. Small hand full of Jin players, play from the heart to be the best that they can be. Then you have billions of followers who plays the same as these videos online.

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#189 “Quote” Edit Post
^^ Where did that speech come from? lol
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#190 “Quote” Edit Post
LOL. but he has a point in the be original thing though. our match videos speak volumes.
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#191 “Quote” Edit Post
theres nothing wrong in copying as long as it will help you get better.

but copy kathy025 not mjting

mjting is a poor jin playah
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#192 “Quote” Edit Post
LOL I just saw this. MJ's Jin is better at poking than mine.
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#193 “Quote” Edit Post
Kathy's Jin is more awesome all-around tho.
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#194 “Quote” Edit Post
JFJ gonna be rocking Jin at evo look forward to seeing him kick ass up there
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#195 “Quote” Edit Post
I dont.
He's good and all but his last match using him against Rip and I forget that his main is Law. He wasnt bad but there were things he just wasnt doing...
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#196 “Quote” Edit Post
avoiding the puddle also has a frame list for jin....maybe better then the current one?
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#197 “Quote” Edit Post
Words of advice & observations on certain inconsistencies here:
1,3~3,d/f+3 is NOT safe on block
Frame data for 1,3,2,1,4 and f,f+3,1,3,2,1,4 don't add up
Would be nice to know the start-up frames on 3~3 since that is a move in its own right
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#198 “Quote” Edit Post
..oops scratch the last sentence, the notation is mentioned as f+3~3
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