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omnibusnemo2
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
db4: I didnt have you for one month and I missed you soo much, dont ever leave me again!

well Sebastian doesnt seems better that Lili, the only thing he has more is the db4 as it was on br. good for online maybe, but and expert player would see it.

He has very slow bound moves, b1 hits on short combos but you must be high, df3 sometimes wiffs.

f1+2 and f23 are soo damned important for Lili game (combos, punishments, wall splats)

but still my trolling mode team for ever!

uf4? what do you do with that move? LOL!
Ice_Beam
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
My impression of sebastian is just meh..

Because of his short legs I can't perform long combos. Now I understand why sebastian gets the db4 animation xP.

Btw i tried to punish uf+4 in practice mode. It seems safe but from the look of it, it looks unsafe xP but i use that move during tag assault.

Ws+3, 3+4 pretty much useless. But I think you can mix up after ws+3 :p

But I love their special winpose. Haha I knew it was the ' Sebastian, they said they were leaving already' winpose xD
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Kane
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Ice_Beam
Haha I knew it was the ' Sebastian, they said they were leaving already' winpose xD


haha ... is it back??


that was my favorite winpose haha ... someone record it ... I'm at work XD
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
Ice_Beam
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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Kane
haha ... is it back??


that was my favorite winpose haha ... someone record it ... I'm at work XD


Will do as soon as I come home from work which ends soon
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Skkra
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#25 “Quote” Edit Post
You can definitely just change his juggles so they're more like DR/BR and d/f+3 will always hit. Get your damage and wall carry in after the bound.
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Ice_Beam
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
Winpose

Here's the special winpose
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Kane
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
^ haha that is awesome. it's too bad she doesn't actually say it, even though we know what it is.

her walk animation looks a little funky though.



regardless ... it almost makes me want to use sebastian just for that ......... almost.
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
Ice_Beam
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
I also figured that sebastian has the same tag throw animation with asuka and xiaoyu. But it only works if Asuka or Xiaoyu starts the tag throw x(
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Aryafortis
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
That ub 2 chop Skkra was saying is just a generic u2 move...(the one that looks like a semi bitch slap)

Lili had this since DR, so it ain't a new move.

Also, Sebastian's ws 3 3+4 and uf 4 can be used as a tag assault combo... but it's very very situational, there are better choices. It's quite difficult to make f 1+2 to hit people since it doesn't track either.
Minty_Pears
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
His opening quote when paired with Lili is hilarious too: "I vow to protect you with my life". Taking your job a bit too seriously, are we?

Edit: DISCOVERY! Lili is NOT the only character with whom he says 'This is no way for a young lady to behave' too in his winpose. He does it with Miharu, Alisa, Xiaoyu I know. Probably the likes of Jaycee and Asuka as well, but I can't be bothered to check just now.

Last edited by Minty_Pears on Oct 10th, 2012 at 16:54

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DivineFist18411
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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Minty_Pears

Edit: DISCOVERY! Lili is NOT the only character with whom he says 'This is no way for a young lady to behave' too in his winpose. He does it with Miharu, Alisa, Xiaoyu I know. Probably the likes of Jaycee and Asuka as well, but I can't be bothered to check just now.


Wait a minute....I thought that was just what he says as a winpose for him in general as referring to Lili fighting in the first place, like a situational winpose. Like when he says it, he's thinking to himself "Why in the world is Lili fighting and behaving like this?" Not sure if that makes sense to anybody, but that's just what I thought. I don't think Sebastian says that only when you partner him with Lili or another girl for that matter.
Skkra
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
There's a generic u+2 in this game? Well, fuck me.
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Minty_Pears
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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Skkra
There's a generic u+2 in this game? Well, fuck me.


Lol, you only just noticed?


Originally posted by DivineFist18411
Wait a minute....I thought that was just what he says as a winpose for him in general as referring to Lili fighting in the first place, like a situational winpose. Like when he says it, he's thinking to himself "Why in the world is Lili fighting and behaving like this?" Not sure if that makes sense to anybody, but that's just what I thought. I don't think Sebastian says that only when you partner him with Lili or another girl for that matter.


It's specifically when he's paired up with a young girl. I haven't tested it on all of them yet.
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omnibusnemo2
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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
ws3 leaves you in crouch.

so you got WS mix ups. ws3,3 repeats the animation of ws3

But I dont find a very effective usage. it quite slow and predictable.

maybe from large distance, maybe you can use the ws3 3 3 3 as a wall trap. dont really know.
Cloukyo2
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Kane
I still think Lili's f2,3 as an nc knd punisher is one of her most useful buffs in ttt2 ... taking that away is like a part of me dying inside lol

just because of no f2,3 and no f1+2 ... I will never be using sebastian


This and the restricted movement is the exact reason I'm not using him too.
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Kane
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
ws3 is -17 ... ws3,3+4 is -19. how exciting.
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
omnibusnemo2
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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
so useless as fuck

gg for sebastian!
Ice_Beam
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
Wow sebastian is like lower than the lowest tier xD Seems pretty useless
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Skkra
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
Looks like I'll be the only Sebastian main here? Hahahaha I predict this thread will quickly become me discussing Seb with myself.

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Ice_Beam
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
They still have to patch sebastian's glitch b+1 bound move, not that it's any threat or anything xP
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