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EvlBowlOfCereal
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#61 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by USMCOgre
What are people using for wall combos with Bob/Miguel? My shit is terrible. After a bound with Mig I'm doing ws3 3+4 into Migs f42 (which misses sometimes) or df12. With a Bob bound I'm doing ff22 with Mig into 1+21+2.

There has to be something better.


This is what I've been doing there may be better ones.

Mig B+2,2 B! bob ws+3, 3+4 Mig d/f+4,1,1

Bob B+4,1 B! Mig d/f+1~SAV d/f+4,1,1 Bob d+3+4

Bob ff+2 B! Mig d/f+1~SAV d/f+4,1,1 Bob U/f+3+4, 4
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#62 “Quote” Edit Post
Are there 90+ juggles off hopkick with Miguel using different TA?
I'm asking for a buddy of mine and so far I got him to peak at around 80+ juggles.
I was thinking with Bob that he might have a Sweet TA with ws+3,3+4
So something like
MIguel/Bob
uf+4, df+1 sav, sav uf+3, df+4,1, d+2~5 TA ws+3,3+4ff+2,2
Would that come close to 90?
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#63 “Quote” Edit Post
Can anyone suggest a wall combo for Steve->Miguel?
My Miguel to Steve is fine but my Steve to Miguel gives me very little damage.
Miguel
Steve
B!qcf 1 B 1 1 1 2 d/f 1 2
Any suggestions for Steve? All I do is
B!d/f 4 1 1SF
I'd like to use something that is more damaging.
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#64 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by KhronicKicks
Can anyone suggest a wall combo for Steve->Miguel?
My Miguel to Steve is fine but my Steve to Miguel gives me very little damage.
Miguel
Steve
B!qcf 1 B 1 1 1 2 d/f 1 2
Any suggestions for Steve? All I do is
B!d/f 4 1 1SF
I'd like to use something that is more damaging.


Steve/Miguel:
w! f,f+2~5 B! or low wall hit d+2,1~2~5 B! (that is a single hit bound move at the wall)
b+1+2~f, SAV 1,2<1 (60%), 3,1,1

Miguel/Steve:
w! 2 hit bound = d/f+2,2~5 or b+2,2~5 B!
QCF+1~b, FLK 1,1,2, d/f+1,2

w! 1 hit bound = u/f+1~5 or SAV 2~5 B!
QCF+1~b, FLK 1,1,1,2, d/f+1,2

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#65 “Quote” Edit Post
Thank you sir.
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#66 “Quote” Edit Post
Just curious, coz there used to be a juggle for his SAV b1, 2 on t6. However, is there a complete on ttt2 for the same move?

Also, are there any set ups to fish a CH b1+2 or f+2?
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#67 “Quote” Edit Post
Unfortunately SAV b1, 2 does not launch anymore.

you can only follow up ff 2, 1 or ff 2, 2 after SAV b1, 2.

you can fish a counter hit with b1+2 after doing single jabs(Since its +1 on block). Or use the b1+2 as tracking tool to Miguel's left after uf+1 gets blocked by opponents. If single jabs gets blocked try to execute b1+2.(be careful on croucher opponents though)

for f+2 i use it as a high crushing move especially with Jab happy opponents.
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#68 “Quote” Edit Post
That is sad

Btw any other set ups post B!
I always finish my juggle but idk what set ups to use

Thanks in advance!
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#69 “Quote” Edit Post
Whatsup everyone, how do you cancel df1 sav into whatever as a TA! wall filler?? Is it df1~f~d/b?
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#70 “Quote” Edit Post
if you want to do a move that is not accesible from SAV, then you have to cancel it with db, yes
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#71 “Quote” Edit Post
Also found a nice one with Bob/Miguel :

Bob/Miguel
cd+2, b,b+2+3~5 B! TA! d/f+1,F, SAV d/f+1,F, d/f+4,1,F, SAV 1,2,1, fff+3

If I'm not mistaken, it deals around 111 damages without wall.
I'm looking forward for new combos with this tag
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#72 “Quote” Edit Post
Eddy/Miguel
CH b+1,4~3+4; 2; b+3,3~5, d/f+2,2 B! TA! b+3,3, fff+3

122dmg
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#73 “Quote” Edit Post
Any good juggles for miguel/kazuya? I am looking for consistent ones sacrficing a litle dmg.
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#74 “Quote” Edit Post
So it turns out A.King and Miguel get some disgusting damage, 98 - 110 in open ground.

A.KingMiguel

Dark Upper, d/f3, d/f1, f+1+2 B!d/f4, 1 savage 121Running SW
100 damage exactly

d/f 2, 1, 5d/f3, d/f1, f+1+2 B!d/f4, 1 savage 121Running SW
98 damage

with Savage d/f2 starter
103 damage

with Savage 1+2 starter
110 damage
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#75 “Quote” Edit Post
Try this instead:

DU, DU, df+1, f+1+2 B!, Miguel SSL_SSR 2,1~f, 1,2,1, AK iSW. Should do more!
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#76 “Quote” Edit Post
Not a huge fan of the double DU, my execution makes it kinda patchy at the moment. 2,1 replacement for d/f 4 1 is awesome though, adds a few points

Team is fun as hell, shame about miguels lack of wall combo damage
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#77 “Quote” Edit Post
Yo, I've been using Miguel/AK for a few months now, and the damage output is fantastic, except when Miguel wall splats.

Anyone got a good combo off Miguel b+4 wall splat?

The best I've found is 93, but it only works if he's lined up PERFECTLY.

Miguel b+4, backdash df+1, d+2 B! AK uf+2 Miguel df+12, df+411.

If he's lined up right, the uf elbow bounces the character back towards Miguel. He gets an extra df1,2 which resplats, then gets the df411 string.

It's SUPER inconsistent on the side though, so I'm trying to find something better that always hits, but can't seem to break the 85 barrier. Thoughts?
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#78 “Quote” Edit Post
Miguel Hopkick Tag Assault Rankings. All tested against Lars with some exceptions.

NOTE: On combos that involve u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+4,1, d+2 (B!), when facing taller characters such as Steve, replace d/f+4,1, d+2 (B!) with d/f+4,1,f, SAV 2 (B!) for 2 more damage.

100 Damage:
Jack-6: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!), (J6) u/f+1 (hold), (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

97 Damage:
Alisa: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Alisa) SSR b+3+4,3+4, 1+2 (during b+3+4,3+4), ff+2,2

P. Jack: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!), (PJ) u/f+1 (hold), (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

95 Damage:

Rolex: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!), (Rolex) AGF, (Miguel), 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

94 Damage:
Hwoarang: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Hwoarang) RFF f+3~LFS u/f+3,4,3, d+1+2

93 Damage:
Lars: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Lars) ff+2~f, SE 1, d/f+4,1,1 (Extremely inconsistent)

Anna: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Anna) SSL iWS 3~b~d/f~2,1, ff+2,2

Yoshimitsu: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Yoshimitsu) SSR b+2,1,1+2, KIN f+2, ff+2,2

Leo: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Leo) f+3~d, BOK 1,2, ff+2,2

92 Damage:
Bryan: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Bryan) SSR b+2,1,4, ff+2,2

Lee: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Lee) SSL b+2,4,3, ff+2,2

Steve: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Steve) SSR d/f+1,2~1~b, FLK 1~ALB 2, f+2+3

Paul: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Paul) ff+3,4,4, ff+2,2

True Ogre: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (True Ogre) u/b+3~f, SBT 1,2,1+2, fff+3

Feng: SSL u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+4,1, d+2~5 (TA!) (Feng) 3~4,3, ff+2,2 (Tested on Paul, Lars is too small for the filler)

Ganryu: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!), (Ganryu) u/f+3, 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

91 Damage:
Jinpachi: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Jinpachi) SSL u/b+1,2~f, FLY 3,4, fff+3

Ancient Ogre: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Ancient Ogre) u/f+3,4,3+4, fff+3

Laws: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Laws): SSR u/f+3,4, fff+1, ff+2,2

Marduk: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Marduk): SSR f+2,1, fff+1, ff+2,2

Devil Jin/Angel: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!), (Devil Jin) ff+4 (delay a bit), 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

90 Damage:
Jin: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Jin) SSR bf+2,3~f, CDS 4, ff+2,2

Dragunov: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Dragunov) SSL f+4,4,3, ff+2,2

Armor King: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Armor King) 3+4,2, fff+1, ff+2,2

Lili: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Lili) ff+3~f~u, b+1,4, ff+2,2

(Moku)Miguel: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) ((Moku)Miguel) SSL iWS 1~f, SAV 1,2,1, fff+3

Bruce: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Bruce) SSR b+4,3,4, ff+2,2

Xiaoyu/Miharu: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Xiaoyu) SSR f+2,1,4, ff+2,2

King: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (King) SSR 1+2,3, fff+1, ff+2,2

Kazuya: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Kazuya) SSR cd+4,1, fff+1, ff+2,2

Heihachi: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!) (Heihachi) OTGF, (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

Zafina: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!) (Zafina) ff+2, (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

89 Damage:
Kunimitsu: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Kunimitsu) Wait for 2 sec ff+3+4,2,4, ff+2,2

Bears: u/f+4, d+2~5 (TA!), (Bears) HBS b+1+2,1+2, (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

Lei: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Lei)ff+4,4, fff+1, ff+2,2

Bob: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+4,1, d+2~5 (TA!) (Bob) WS 3,3+4, ff+2,1

Dr. B: u/f+4, f+2, d+2~5 (TA!) (Dr. B) Panic 1+2, (Miguel) 2,1,f, SAV u/f+3, ff+2,1

88 Damage:
Baek: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Baek) 4,3~f, 1+2,4, d+1+2

Capo: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+4,1, d+2~5 (TA!) (Capo) dash u/f+3+4 ff+2,2

Jun: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Jun) WS 1,4,2, ff+2,2

Asuka: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Asuka) SSL b+2,4,3, ff+2,2

87 Damage:

Wang: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Wang) SSR d/b+2,4,1, ff+2,2

Jaycee: u/f+4, WS 1~f, SAV u/f+3, d/f+1~f, SAV 2~5 (TA!) (Jaycee) SSR u/f+1,2,4, ff+2,2

Updates will be done when needed.

Learned the Hopkick f+2, d+2~5 (TA!) Partner 1 hit filler, 2,1,f, u/f+3, ff+2,1 here: https://youtu.be/96elktii-ak

Last edited by BlackViper55 on Mar 16th, 2017 at 12:33

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#79 “Quote” Edit Post
Just some Miguel / Bob stuff from me messing around.

Tag Throw
df+1+2~5

Midscreen
ws+2,2, df+4,1, df+2,2~5 TA! ws+3,3+4 ff+2,1 79dmg

uf+4, df+1~f SAV uf+3, df+4,1, d+2~5 TA! ws+3,3+4, ff+2,1 87dmg
Took me a while to get the link between ws+3,3+4, ff+2,1. I kept dashing in between the hits, because that's what you do with most TA!'s but since Bob's filler is so weird, you gotta stand perfectly still until he's done sitting on the dude, then do the ff+2,1.

df+2,1~5 db+2, d+2,3, f+1, ff+2~5 TA! 3+4, SAV 1,2,1 wr+3 94dmg

df+2,1, df+1~f SAV uf+3, df+4,1, d+2~5 TA! ws+3,3+4, ff+2,1 96dmg

Wall

f+1+2, W! uf+1~5 TA! ws+3,3+4, ff+2,1 81dmg

Wall Carry Post B!
uf+4, df+1~f SAV uf+3, df+4,1, d+2~5 TA! ub+3, high W! 2,1~f SAV 1,2,1 92dmg

Wall Carry Pre B!
uf+4, df+1~f, SAV df+1~f, df+4,1~f, SAV 1,2,1 W! uf+1~5 TA! ws,3,3+4, ff+2,1 99dmg

And Bob / Miguel

uf+3, db+2, d+2,3, f+1, ff+2~5 TA! SAV 1,2,1 wr+3 95dmg

uf+3, db+2, d+2,3, f+1, ff+2~5 TA! ff+2,2 run up 1+2,1+2 96dmg

ws+2,1~5 df+1~f, SAV df+1~f df+4,1~f d+2~5 TA! ws+3,3+4, ff+2,1 96dmg

ws+2,1, db+2, d+2,3, f+1, ff+2~5 TA! ff+2,2 run up 1+2,1+2 97dmg

cd+2, b,b+2+3~5 TA! df+1,F, SAV df+1,F, df+4,1,F, SAV 1,2,1, wr+3 111dmg

Wall
f+2,3, W! bb db+2 W! b+4,1~5 TA! df+1~f df+4,1,1, d+3+4 104dmg

Wall Carry Post B!
uf+3, db+2, d+2,3, f+1, ff+2~5 TA! df+4,1,1, W! df+1, d+3+4 105dmg

Wall Carry Pre B!
uf+3, db+2, d+2,3, b+2,2 W! b+4,1~5 TA! df+1~f df+4,1,1, d+3+4 108dmg

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