just guard to B.... MNT able to guard mid

I fucking swear this B+1 JF is the stupidest shit ever. Zafina is already difficult to play, has 90% of her moves is ridiculous unsafe, so what does Namco do? Make her combo dmg absolute shit UNLESS you perfect this absurdly tight JF, which BTW happens to be -14 so good luck doing this in the open. This goddamn thing is so frustrating. Finally get the character back after 3 years and it has to be this fucking dumb.

Just came across this vid. Has some pretty cool stuff. And also some combos I'd like to try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qts44-fjv8o&t=3s

Proper frame data anyone?

Here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...YwHAA/htmlview#

also d+4 on CH is no longer +18 (or around that amount in TTT2) now it’s +7 hahaha

Thank you

If someone didn't know (I didn't), MNT d+4 is unparriable low. Has it always been like this? 🤔

Ah, doing SCR u~d~u~d~u lets you move quickly forward in stance. I use it sometimes if in SCR and opp is on the ground to mix SCR 1+2 with SCR d+4/df+4. Still, old tech, though. 😉

Last edited by TokisPL on Sep 17th, 2019 at 00:54

Asuka's b+3 and moves similar can be punished with d+2.

WS+3 to SCR, RA! Is possible but very hard to execute, just perfect timing and you have to be exactly next to the enemy

Whoah, another good find Johnnay! I didn't know you can quickly cancel SCR into RA. WS+3 into RA looks sick.

In the end, I started to appreciate her RA as it has very good range and her RD after it turned out to be i14.

SCR+4 hits grounded

TRT+2 hits grounded ( and a safe mid ground hitting move)

and both of them flip opponent from the ground like Nina’s STFU, lilis SS+3, Julia’s ff+3 etc etc

Moves which do special spike

SCR+1+2
MNT+1+2
MNT uf+3
b+3
df+4,1

Also 2,2,1+2 and d+1, if you're counting all moves that cause floor break.

Another change is Zafina WS+2 hits grounded now and causes the same animation as SCR+4/TRT+2

ZAFINA CHANGES

As of version 3.03

b+1,1+2

Increased input window of the 1+2 by 2 frames ( buff I’m sure)

You can shift to a throw after hitting a airborne opponent

WS+1,2 does 18 dmg and shortens recovery time by 2 frames

WS+4

+7 on hit ( +2)

-7 on block ( -9)

Opp behavior different on hit now but recovery time increased by 3 frames. Maybe it’s one of those spinning moves on a standing opponent like df+1,4 but i don’t know

Not sure if this allows for new combos now, but definitely it will be easier to connect JF in some juggles.
Nice, uf+1 afterwards now connects after launching in every situation, not only against male characters.
That's HUGE! Literally, something she needed to have improved. Now, it gives better pressure, e.g. well timed ff+2 will interrupt any retaliation attempt. Sweet.
They changed animation a bit to justify improved frames, but nothing spectacular.

All in all, very good changes, no nerfs whatsoever.

Was just about to post about the changes but yall already beat me to it.

The bigger window for her JF and her improved frames for ws+4 are fucking great. The improved ws+1,2 is the icing on the cake. I still think she could use some slight tweaks here and there, but overall this has got me so hyped. Especially the JF.

At least her WS Punishment is now better but still bleh

Do we have any combo from Zafina after CH3 when wakeup from ground?

CHANGES

1,3

+7 on hit (+5)
-2 on block (-4)

ff+3+4 second hit has been fixed (if the first hit struck the opponent the second hit could be blocked).

SCR df+4 now on CH the opponent is more closer to her

And her RA has been fixed which made her on the other side of the opponent

I wish they would have shortened recovery on 1,3~b as well. At least made that +3 on hit.

I was hoping the change to CH SCR df+4 meant that it would make MNT df+2 pickup more consistent but that doesn't seem to be the case.

What they really needed to fix was the issue with SCR 3+4 where the 2nd hit would sometimes whiff in combos. Oh well.

With as popular as she is now, I'm just glad Namco didn't decide to nerf anything, so overall I'm good.