Originally posted by Baron West
So far her buffs are
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b+4,4 S! spin animation on hit (possibly more +frames?)
b+4,4 cannot be used in many combos anymore unless used as the 2nd hit. For instance my old f,f+3, f,f+3, b+4,4, S! leaves them at a range where SDW 3+4 cannot reach, even after dashing. This is because the animation has been changed and she does this spinning animation that seems to add (my guess) ~15-20 frames of lag when compared to TTT2 b+4,4, B!
So while it might be an open-field or at the wall buff, in combos it's the complete opposite in my experience.
On the topic of 3,3,4, not being NCc is incredibly stupid. Instead she can now cancel into SDW instead of end with the armor stance. If anything it should have been like Lars old 1+2, as Raven you always need to input 3,3,4 when fishing for CH now but if you don't see CH, you would need to hold back to cancel the string in SDW and sway away from punishment. Instead she has this shitty ass string that really doesn't fit her playstyle and against new school Tekken players, won't be a worthy mixup because they won't know 3,3,4 used to be NCc (similar to how f+3+4 works in TTT2 and before). It'll be a one-trick pony for sure.
Finally, I feel like they modified something with d/f+1+4, open-field I would dash up and go for the instant throw and it would seemingly go right through the opponent. So I'm not sure if this has to do with her hitbox/hurtbox, as shown above, or what.
Oh yeah, these are my experiences from playing as her about a month ago. I didn't like what I saw, I just never posted about it.
Edit: One more thing. 4~3,3 is probably the dumbest change and most useless. In my experience, 4~3,3 is the timing to interrupt people who try to punish after 4~3 but if 4~3 hits and launches, it's too fast to hit for S!. If you do 4~3,<3, that will grant you the full launcher into S!
but is not fast enough interrupt punishment. Otherwise, like usual, raw 4~3 is launch punishable. So basically you have to use Yomi if you want to do something like SS NH launcher, which means you might outsmart yourself and/or fail spectacularly.
Who the fuck designed this shit?
Last edited by tyler2k on Feb 18th, 2017 at 20:30