Tekken 7 - Devil Jin's Change List

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Flying Wonkey
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Work in progress!

- d/b+2 is now -13 on block and +4 on hit
- b+2,3 has changed to something new, 2nd hit is mid and is a Screw Attack (S!)
- can forward dash cancel from d/f+1,2 (d/f+1,2 ~ ff)
- b+1+2 unblockable charge has been changed to d/b+1+2 input
- Ultimate Tackle can now only be done from crouch
- 1,2,3,f+4 removed
- b+2,4 ~ etc removed. Including the 10 hit combo from it.
- First hit of Devil Jin's Hellsweeps knockdown on normal hit. Can juggle from it.
- New ff+3,1,2 move, last hit looks like DVJ's u/b+2 homing move
- Now has Angel's f+3+4 from TTT2. Is done in Tekken 7 by ff+3+4
- Animation change on 2+4 grab, Now looks like Angel's 2+4 grab in TTT2.
- b+4 knocksdown again. Is now -11 on block.
- b+1,2 is now -14 on block.
- ws+2 is the same as TTT2's but it puts the opponent in an auto Screw state so you can't use a screw attack in the combo to extend it.

These are his Screw Attacks:

b+2,3
u/f+2
f+3
ff+4
ff+3,1,2
FLY 1

Rage art is b+1+2 and d+1 is his Power Crush.

Last edited by Flying Wonkey on Apr 8th, 2015 at 08:44

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Mingriah
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#2 “Quote” Edit Post
he also has angel's 2+4 throw

any idea what ws2 looks like?
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Kane
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normal hit b4 also knocks down like T6, according to inatekken.
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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wakeup fly stance got a command change: FUFT 3+4 to FUFT u3+4.

and if anyones wondering about ws2 its like tag2
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hs, ewgf, 1, ff4,s! tgf~uf seems to be the most dmg so far

also

ewgf, ewgf, ff4,s!, tgf~uf
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
ff3+4 [angel's f3+4] spikes now ... and it also floor breaks


112 doesn't wall splat

Last edited by Kane on Apr 7th, 2015 at 09:45

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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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Shouldent you be able to do something like : EWGF, EWGF, ff+4 S!, ff+3,1~ff, 2, DEWGF? sould pretty nice.
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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
ya should work


from the nico vid, hs, ewgf, 1, ff4,s! ff31~ff, dewgf definitely does the most [so far]
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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kane can u ask ur testing buddy to test how fast ws2 is? it probably hasnt changed, but dam i'll be hype if its i14 or something. can he also test how it launches from the side/back?
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HS launch-Hellsweeps by the wall seem to have a thing where if you don't recover from the backroll/flop bounce they cause a d+1+2 laser is guaranteed?
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Originally posted by Kane:
they named it matterhorn because lili's uphill battle in tekken is the highest mountain to climb.
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I'll ask him... I doubt I'll get a reply tonight though. I would expect it to still be i15 though.

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yea but I believe u can just b4 again if they don't tech either ... puts them in the same position again.

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my friend just got hit by: hs, ff31, ff4, s!, ff31~ff, dewgf works ... yea, ff31, ff4. they must've sped up ff4 or beefed the hitbox a lot


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dj's b4 is apparently safe too.
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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thanks kane

also - what does b23 on a standing opponent look like? is it nc?
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Wow they are going crazy with the dvj buffs, what the fuck are they doing? This is gonna be t5.0 all over again if they keep this up....

EDIT: Also Kane sorry to ask but do you have a link to the nico vid? Cant find it here on the forum.
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I'm not Kane but this vid?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25975559

And damn, maybe we'll start to hear some salty tears exploding after all from DvJ. ;P

He is doing some silly stuff in these vids.
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Originally posted by Kane:
they named it matterhorn because lili's uphill battle in tekken is the highest mountain to climb.
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I've seen hellsweep at the wall, into another another hellsweep, into db+2. Not only does he have a ridiculous amount of tools for every situation, his damage is good and his wall carry is insane. I don't think I'm overreacting here but what the heck were they thinking?
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
b23 is at least -12 ... dunno if it's nc. my friend stopped testing for now ... the lines are long ha

b1,2 is -14 or less
ws2 is still i15


yea, that's the nico video link.



but hey .. don't worry guys. regular jin is S+ tier remember? ... clearly the best character in the game.

Last edited by Kane on Apr 7th, 2015 at 10:51

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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
yeah the jin ewhf and uf2 buffs are nice, but nowhere near this insanity haha
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Originally posted by Kane
b23 is at least -12 ... dunno if it's nc. my friend stopped testing for now ... the lines are long ha

b1,2 is -14 or less
ws2 is still i15


yea, that's the nico video link.



but hey .. don't worry guys. regular jin is S+ tier remember? ... clearly the best character in the game.




Hey I only said he was there for now.

If this keeps up my re-jumbled tier list is going to look a bit different next week
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Originally posted by Kane:
they named it matterhorn because lili's uphill battle in tekken is the highest mountain to climb.
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
no one ever believes anything I say.
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Originally posted by Lukmendes
I honestly wonder if Kane has a list of "Why Lili sucks" on his computer, to avoid having to write the same things over and over again .
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I believe you that Lili is B+ tier, Kane.

(btw please don't change your sig if DJ ends up as S+++++.)

*cough* apologies for the aside, still waiting for more data to show up on Twitter.
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Originally posted by Kane:
they named it matterhorn because lili's uphill battle in tekken is the highest mountain to climb.

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