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noodalls
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
As per Star Saber's request in the hit confirm thread.

Again this is something that is very straightforward to investigate with a programmable setup, but almost impossible to do otherwise (visual analysis would probably work, but then I'm pretty much the only person who does that anyway).

If people post their moves in the appropriate format I will report back the properties for when the move is cancelled.

What you post - for example, Jun's f+2~d

Jun
f+2~d
i17/-20

What I post
77/92

Where 77 is the last frame on which the move can be cancelled, and 92 is the recovery for the move having been cancelled. (No those numbers are not real, I'm not at home to test at the moment). I suspect moves will have a single point at which they can be cancelled, but if there is an early or late cancel point, or anything else specific to know, make note of it in your post.

I'm very free to test this week, and then for the forseeable next 2 months will have limited time, so will try to test a bunch of things at once.

If people don't post full notations/frame data, expect to keep waiting for information until that changes.

If people don't follow the formatting, it means I have to reformat to make a combined post, which wastes my time.
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#4 “Quote” Edit Post
Will you carry my children, Noodalls?

Lars f+3~df
Dragunov f+3~df~uf
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#5 “Quote” Edit Post
^ You've gotta wait in line. The current waiting time is about 2 years.

Kuni:
- f+3~b
i8/?

- f+3~d
i8/?

Yoshi:
- 1SS 2,1~b
i10/-19

- b+2~1+2
i14/-9

- KIN u+1+2
?/?

Thanks!

Last edited by NoodleHead on Aug 28th, 2013 at 23:37

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#6 “Quote” Edit Post
Thank you noodalls

Angel
CD+3~b
18f/-14

4~3~d
24f/-6

King
f,f+2~b
31f/+2
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Didn't think I'd ever say it, but you guys need to try to be more like Star Saber when you post.
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#7 “Quote” Edit Post
You mean moves that just cancels and never hits right? Not strings that can cancel into stances.

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#8 “Quote” Edit Post
Can you verify these?

Devil Jin

b+1,2~b

ff+3,1~ff

b+1+2 (release 1+2)

1,2,4~3 (4~3 cancels the knee)

1,2,4~1+4,2,4_d+4

b+1,2~b to EWGF is fun!
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#9 “Quote” Edit Post
Didn't think I'd ever say it, but you guys need to try to be more like Star Saber when you post.
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#11 “Quote” Edit Post
Kuni:
- f+3~b
i8/?
8/26

- f+3~d
i8/?
8/22

Yoshi:
- 1SS 2,1~b
i10/-19
22-30/48

- b+2~1+2
i14/-9
1-17/37

- 1+2,u+1+2
?/?
2-35/49
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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt
Will you carry my children, Noodalls?


Isn't this the wrong way around?
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#13 “Quote” Edit Post
Lee/Violet

b+1:1~f (this and the non JF version if you wouldn't mind)
i15/-5

HMS+1~f
i12/-?

Also if you can and it's not too much trouble...

f,n~b
i?/-?
Just want a general idea the earliest time mist step can be cancelled to SWY.

Would you mind if moves that can be cancelled/transitioned to a stance (rather than the whole animation) can be included? e.g. Lee's f+3,3,3,3,3,4~3+4 HMS.

Thank you!

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#14 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by noodalls
Isn't this the wrong way around?


LOLOL. I think we should have a reverse bukakke party where we form a circule, with Noodalls standing in the center.



(Thanks for the frame data)
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#15 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by noodalls
Didn't think I'd ever say it, but you guys need to try to be more like Star Saber when you post.


hey thanks for the data, I'm gonna sig this if you don't mind it
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by AZYG4LYFE
Lee/Violet

b+2
2-17/31

b+1:1~f (this and the non JF version if you wouldn't mind)
i15/-5
16-30/37

HMS+1~f
i12/-?
2-9/16
Also if you can and it's not too much trouble...

f,n~b
i?/-?
8-21/**
b on F8. 1 on F12 gives standing 1. 1 on F13-17 gives ws+1. 1 on F18- gives standing 1.
b on F8. 4 on F12 gives standing 4. 4 on F13-42 gives backsway 4. 4 on F43- gives standing 4.

Just want a general idea the earliest time mist step can be cancelled to SWY.

Would you mind if moves that can be cancelled/transitioned to a stance (rather than the whole animation) can be included? e.g. Lee's f+3,3,3,3,3,4~3+4 HMS.

Thank you!

AZ
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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
Lars
1+2~b
i15/-9

DE~df
i14/-

Kaz
ub_u_uf 2,2~db
i17/-16

Thank you Noodalls, I'll be patience ^^
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#18 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Superboltboy
Lars
1+2~b
i15/-9
32/47

DE~df
i14/-
10-34/26

Kaz
ub_u_uf 2,2~db
i17/-16
40/55
Thank you Noodalls, I'll be patience ^^
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
DVJ

b1,2~b
i12/-15

ff3,1~ff
i18/0

Lee

b1:1, 3+4 (HMS cancel)
i15/-5
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#20 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Mingriah
DVJ

b1,2~b
i12/-15
29-34/49

ff3,1~ff
i18/0
16-46/72
Lee

b1:1, 3+4 (HMS cancel)
i15/-5
16-45/51

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