Sambo Tag Team Assault (team/solo combos)

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Katt
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#181 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah Lars is a bitch, but he's such a good friend with Dragunov. That team, with Lars on point, works so darn well.

Lars f+1+2~5 Dragu qcf+2~5 Lars db+2,1 fb2,1~5 B! Dragu 4,4 Lars ff+2~f SE1 = 100 damage
Lars f+1+2~5 Dragu qcf+2~5 Lars db+2,1 f+2,1~f SEdf+1 B! Dragu 4,4 Lars ff+2~f SE1 = 101 damage
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#182 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt
venzo: I love them too, they look so slick. But 4 less dmg than f+4,4,3 iSW... Can I live with the sacrifice?


its not so important imo. Did u see nobi using ISW as ender? never. The other enders lead to far better oki or maybe even more dmg, i guess, if a wall is near.
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#183 “Quote” Edit Post
You're probably right, but then I can't understand why he didn't end with ff+2~f SE1_3. It does more damage than f+3~f DE1~f SE1_3 but gives the same oki.
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#184 “Quote” Edit Post
no idea. i tend, though, to trust the choices of high level players. its good to know which is the max dmg for that launcher, but dmg isn't the only important factor in a real game.
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#185 “Quote” Edit Post
drag/bruce combos plz
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venzo77
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#186 “Quote” Edit Post
looking for a consistent ender for this combo: Lars CH 4, ws21~5 B!, drag f443, lars ?
Katt
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#187 “Quote” Edit Post
You probably mean Lars CH db+4?

Lars CH db+4 ws+2,1~5 B! Drag f+4,4,3 Lars *run* f+2,1~f SE1. It's consistent as long as you time Lars f+2,1 right, I think I get it 10/10 now. Not hard. I tend to delay Drag f+4,4,3 after the B! but I think I do it out of habit instead of necessity.

Afaik it's the strongest one and I've seen Nobi use it as well. Don't remember the damage though.

For non-TA I do Lars CH db+4 ws+2,1 B! f+4,1,2,1. Are there any stronger?
venzo77
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#188 “Quote” Edit Post
yeah sry i meant db4. i need to get the timing of that f21~SE. for non TA i usually do f21~SE or db2~SE don't remember which one.

btw, using lars db21(or any other quick recovery move) as ender for wall combos allow lars to avoid tag crash and launch the opponent BT with ff2 (no SE)for full combo.

Last edited by venzo77 on Feb 23rd, 2013 at 13:11

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#189 “Quote” Edit Post
Some quick Bryan/Dragunov, exact numbers to come later, but mostly 90+ and easy enough execution

Bryan point
u/f+4, d/b+2 f+41 B! F+443 ff+3 (Hold) 92
JU, f+1+2, f+41 B!F+443 ff+3 (Hold)
ws+1, b+2 1, f+41 B!F+443 dash ff+2

Dragunov point
(Qcf+1/d/f+2/ws+2/qcb+2), f+443, f+1, ff+2 B! b+2,4ff+3
qcf+2, f+24, ff+2 B! b+214 ff+3 (tricky, but huge damage)
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#190 “Quote” Edit Post
So I did these yesterday for Dragunov/Bryan and I've loved them ever since. It's essentially the same combo each time but with different launchers/bounds and it essentially shows a flexible, very powerful combo.

Dragunov/Bryan combo


I also found a few minutes ago that this works off a CH u/f+1 and CH u/b+2. It's becoming more and more flexible.

Notations:
Dragunov/Bryan
f+1+2
iWR+2 B! TA! ff+3 (hold) f+2,4, deep dash 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 (or CDc 4,4) - 99-103 damage

QCF+1 or QCF+2
b+1+2 B! TA! ff+3 (hold) f+2,4, deep dash 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 (or CDc 4,4) - QCF+1 does 101-105 damage, QCF+2 does 104-108 damage

CH u/f+1 or CH u/b+2
SSR b+1+2 B! TA! ff+3 (hold) f+2,4, deep dash 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 (or CDc 4,4) - both do 101-105 damage

Originally posted by spuckuk
qcf+2, f+24, ff+2 B! b+214 ff+3 (tricky, but huge damage)

You can do 4,4 as an ender instead of ff+3 which works on all characters, upping the damage from 100 to 103.

Last edited by CKeegan on Mar 7th, 2013 at 08:32

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Katt
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#191 “Quote” Edit Post
Can you do df+2 d+1~5?

I think you mean f+2,4 in those notations. :3
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#192 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt
Can you do df+2 d+1~5?

I think you mean f+2,4 in those notations. :3

Damn, my bad. Just edited it.
I tried testing d/f+2, d+1 but I don't think it comes out fast enough. I didn't try it much though so if you find it bounds it should work with the combo seeing as the rest are 2 hit bound combos.
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#193 “Quote” Edit Post
df+2 d+1 does not work, testet. But I did find out that df+2 ff+2 actually combo, but it's really hard. Tested on Ling as well, I'm tempted to call it a justframe but it might be more like 2 frames.
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#194 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt
df+2 d+1 does not work, testet. But I did find out that df+2 ff+2 actually combo, but it's really hard. Tested on Ling as well, I'm tempted to call it a justframe but it might be more like 2 frames.

It did feel fairly tricky but I agree that I don't think it's a just-frame.

It works with the combo after trying it out, but sadly it's not worth it unless you're doing it on a character like Jinpachi or Paul who can get hit by 4,4. ff+2 just doesn't do enough damage to make it a decent replacement.

For example:
d/f+2, ff+2 B! TA! ff+3 (hold) f+2,4, deep dash 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 - 88 damage
d/f+2, f+4,4,3, f+1, ff+2 B! TA! b+2,4 ff+3 - 86 damage
d/f+2, f+4,4,3, f+1, ff+2 B! TA! SSR QCB+2,4 f+3~CD 1+2 - 88 damage

The first and third combo do exactly the same damage, and IMO the third one is a lot easier to pull off. The first combo does 92 damage though with the 4,4 ender so it's still fairly viable in that case even though it only does 2 more points than the next best thing.
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#195 “Quote” Edit Post
Yup, few reasons to use a weaker and much harder alternative.

Originally posted by CKeegan
Dragunov/Bryan
f+1+2
iWR+2 B! TA! ff+3 (hold) f+2,4, deep dash 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 (or CDc 4,4) - 99-103 damage

You can squeeze out 3 more damage in this combo by replacing iWR+2 with b+1+2 if you play like a boss.
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#196 “Quote” Edit Post
i made a little tech-trap with dragunov/armorking i'd like to share. it works if they tech, quickstand, and it worked when someone tagged out too. here it is:

drag/a.king qcf+2, f+2,4, ff+2 B! TA! d/f+3 dash b+2+3 if they lay there you can run up and stomp. you would be surprised at how often it works, well at least against my friends.
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#197 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt You can squeeze out 3 more damage in this combo by replacing iWR+2 with b+1+2 if you play like a boss.

I don't think that works. I've tried so many times to do this and it's either whiffed or hit them grounded. Besides iWR+2 looks so good
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Katt
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#198 “Quote” Edit Post
Hmm, I know for certain f+1+2 b+1+2 worked in T6. I'll test some myself.

Edit: Doesn't work anymore. :x

Last edited by Katt on Mar 9th, 2013 at 18:26

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#199 “Quote” Edit Post
For Lars/Drag players.

W! Drag ff2~5 B! Lars 1+2,2~b, f,b+2,1 Drag b2, ws+1+2_3,1,2 works.

Gets a little more damage than 1+2,2~b, f4,1,2,1 Drag ws12.
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#200 “Quote” Edit Post
HelpMe usually does W! Drag ff2~5 B! Lars 1+2,2~b, f,b+2,1 Drag 3,1,2. Dunno if that is more damage, prob not
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