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CKeegan
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#141 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by ashstampede
whats deep dashing? i watched the vid above adn its not in the wiki terms, it just looks like a normal dash before f+1 is it just his special step?

It covers more distance than a regular dash in roughly the same timescale, the notation is kind of like fff+1. Not a lot of characters need to use one; examples include converting off a CH 4 with Bryan which needs a deep dash f+1.
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#142 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by venzo77
yeah but its good to have f3 cdc for any puropose : ), f3cdc2 is useful too.

Yep, the beauty of f+3 enders is CD 1+2 for damage, CDc 4,1 for carry, and CD 2 (qcf+2) for safe tag.
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#143 “Quote” Edit Post
Okay, I hit the lab and was testing Jinpachi WS+2~5 into Dragunov, since b+4,3 does better damage than my b+2,1 combo, but at the same time is way less consistent landing as it requires pretty good timing. For some context my BnB is:
Jinpachi WS+2~5, Drag (b+1+2), b+2,1, 1, f+3~CDc, 4,3, TA!, Jinpachi SSR+2,1, Drag f,f+3

After messing around timing and options I discovered that a whiffed d/f+1+2 is about the perfect timing for both b+4,3 and f+4,4,3 (which also works, similar to d/f+2, f+4,4,3...). It's important to note that you'll need to do a proper CC otherwise WS+4 will come out.
Jinpachi WS+2~5, Drag (d/f+1+2), b+4,3, 1, f+3~CDc, 4,3, TA!, Jinpachi SSR+2,1, Drag f,f+3
Jinpachi WS+2~5, Drag (d/f+1+2), f+4,4,3, 1, f+3~CDc, 1, f,f+2, B!, f+3~CD 1+2
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#144 “Quote” Edit Post
hey can anyone help me find a TA for my dragunov to use ... my team howrang/drag
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#145 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by shisui
hey can anyone help me find a TA for my dragunov to use ... my team howrang/drag

What kind of combos are you doing pre-bound for both characters? Regardless I found a little combo for you by screwing around for 5 minutes:

Hwoarang starter, Dragunov filler
b+3, b+4, f+3~df+3 B! TA! f+4,4,3 d+3+4,3 - 89 damage

Originally posted by tyler2k
Jinpachi WS+2~5, Drag (d/f+1+2), f+4,4,3, 1, f+3~CDc, 1, f,f+2, B!, f+3~CD 1+2

Dunno how useful this'd be for you but you can also do:
Jinpachi WS+2~5, Drag f+2,4, ff, 1, f+3~CDc 4,3 B!, ff, 3,1,2

Does exactly the same damage, but it feels a lot easier on smaller characters.
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#146 “Quote” Edit Post
I'll have to test out the f+2,4 option later, thanks. Regarding Hwo, I'd have to assume TA!, Drag f+4,4,3, Hwo iWR+3 should work on pretty much any combo for spike and pressure.

In other news I've been updating the first page. Obviously it's missing stuff, but I'll be making changes this week to it.
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#147 “Quote” Edit Post
u/f,n,4
b+4,3, f+1, f+3~CDc 4,3 B! f+3~CD 1+2 (or ff, 3,1,2).
EDIT: or d+4,4 even, your favorite ender

I think you should also note the change from T6 to TTT2 where the 3+4 combos are much harder/not possible to do on bigs.

Last edited by CKeegan on Feb 6th, 2013 at 21:18

willagapto
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#148 “Quote” Edit Post
Guys plz help me,

I can NEVER execute this combo.

d/f+2
f+4,4,3, 1, f+3~CDc 1, f,f+2, B!, f+3~CD 1+2

The bound move ff+2 ever whiff, independent of the speed.

have some trick/setup to this combo ? If yes, could you explain?
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#149 “Quote” Edit Post
No, there is no trick or setup for the combo. You're probably doing the CDc 1 too slowly or the ff+2 too slowly.
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#150 “Quote” Edit Post
Drag/Lars

qcf2, f24, ff2~5 B!, (lars) ff2~F~SE3, f443_(f3cdc41), W! b2, ws 1+2 , around 120 dmg
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#151 “Quote” Edit Post
@tyler2k I've found some more combos for CH (i)WR+2:
=iWS+4, f+1, f+3~CDc 1,3,2, B!, f+3~CD1+2 - 88dmg
=iWS+4, 3,1, f+1,3,2, B!, f+3~CD1+2 - 89dmg (req deep dash for iWS+4, doesn't work on Ling and most likely other smalls; rather inconsistent)
=iWS+4, f+1, f+3~CDc 1,3,2, B!, f+3~CDc d+4,4 - 90dmg (possibly the max solo dmg from CH WR+2, DOES work on Ling and feels consistent)

and some more B! saving wallcarry for d/f+2_qcf+1_qcb+2_WS+2:
=f+4,4,3, 3,1,2 (omit the last 2 or 1,2 as necessary)
=f+4,4,3, f+1, f+3~CDc 4,1 (one of Drag's longest wallcarry without B! I think)
=4,1, 4,1, d+4,1,3 (omit the last 3 as necessary)


Some Drag/Kaz combos, both TA! and/or red-health killing:
blue for normal red health dmg
red for complete red health dmg
black for no red health dmg

Drag/Kaz:
CH WR+2, iWS+4, f+1, f+3~CDc 1,3,2~5, B!, [KAZ ssl HS 1], ff+3 - 105 dmg (consistent; CDc 4,3 for easier ender)
CH WR+2, iWS+4, 3,1, f+1,3,2~5, B!, [KAZ ssl HS 1], ff+3 - 106 dmg (max TA! dmg from CH WR+2; doesn't work on Ling)
d/f+2, f+4,4,3, f+1, ff+2~5, B!, [KAZ ssl HS 1], ff+3_f+3~CD1+2 (staple TA! combo) - 88_89dmg
DRA qcf+1~5_qcb+2~5_WS+2~5, KAZ 3,1,4, d/f+1,2, B!, HS 1 - 76(+4/-7)dmg
DRA qcf+2~5, KAZ EWGF, d/f+1,2, B!, 3,1, ff+2 - 80dmg


Kaz/Drag:
CH d/f+2, (1,2),4,3, d/b+2~5, B!, [DRA f+4,4,3] KAZ CD+3 - 100dmg (easymode CH d/f+2 TA!)
EWGF, EWGF, ff, b+2,4, d/b+2~5, B!, [DRA ssl f+4,4,3], KAZ CD+3 - 100dmg
EWGF, EWGF, d/f+3, d/f+1,2~5, B!, [DRA ssl f+4,4,3], KAZ CD+3 - 99dmg (staple TA! combo)
EWGF~5, DRA f+2,4, f+3~CDc 4,3, B!, [KAZ ssl HS 1], DRA ff+3 - 104dmg
EWGF, EWGF~5, f+1, f+3~CDc 1,3,2, B! f+3~CDc d+4,4 - 84dmg
EWGF~5, DRA f+2,4, f+3~CDc 4,3, B!, f+3~CDc d+4,4 - 89dmg
EWGF~5, DRA f+2,4, f+3~CDc 1,3,2, B!, f+3~CD1+2 - 90dmg (this seems to work on all char since the EWGF launches high enough for the f+3 follow-up to be connected after the f+2,4)
EWGF~5, DRA f+4,4,3, f+1,3,2, B!, f+3~CD1+2 - 90dmg
EWGF~5, DRA f+4,4,3, f+1, f+3~CDc f+1, ff+2 B!, f+3~CD1+2 - 90dmg
WS+1,2~5, DRA f+4,4,3, f+1, f+3~CDc f+1, ff+2, f+3~CD1+2 - 88dmg

WB!:
b+4,3, W! DRA b+1+2~5, B!, [KAZ d/f+3,2,1], DRA f+2<4 - 105dmg
b+4,1, W! KAZ f+4~5_d/b+2~5, B! [DRA f+3~CDc b+2,1,3], KAZ b+3,1,4,3 - 106dmg

Last edited by HirakuNoShadow on Jan 31st, 2013 at 16:07

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#152 “Quote” Edit Post
Venzo77: I believe the strongest W!-ender for Drag after a combo is 2, db+1 (fullcrouch jab), ws+1+2. It's just a few few more points of damage than b+2 ws+1+2.

HirakuNoShadow: I've got no way to test right now, but how does this fare?
CH WR+2 iWS+4 f+1 f+3~CDc 4,3 B! f+3~CDc d+4,4

It's my go-to from CH wr+2. I might be able to test later. Works on everyone.
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#153 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Katt
HirakuNoShadow: I've got no way to test right now, but how does this fare?
CH WR+2 iWS+4 f+1 f+3~CDc 4,3 B! f+3~CDc d+4,4

It's my go-to from CH wr+2. I might be able to test later. Works on everyone.

I didn't mention that one since it was in the first post, but it does a solid 87 dmg; you can replace the d+4,4 with 1+2,4 for +1 dmg, but then that's purely for manly points
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#154 “Quote” Edit Post
can someone help mi with drag/howrang plz
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#155 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by shisui
can someone help mi with drag/howrang plz

We gave you some ideas... If you scroll up a bit you'll find some suggestions.
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#156 “Quote” Edit Post
HirakuNoShadow: It deals one less damage than yours! D:

Oh well, I prefer it anyway because of the number of hits, works better with tag-assaults. Yours is sexy though.
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#157 “Quote” Edit Post
here's some Drag/A.Ogre and a Drag/Hei combos for those who are keen: (sorry if i cant remember the damage correctly cause i've been messing with the combos not in practice mode often.)

Drag lead/ Hei 2nd-ary:
DRAG qcf2, f24, ff2 TA! HEI uf4, DRAG qcf4, d4,4 (dmg should be 98)
DRAG qcf2, f24, ff2 TA! HEI 1~b+2,1, DRAG f3~df 1+2 (i think dmg should be 100)


Drag lead/ A.Ogre 2nd-ary:
DRAG qcf2, f24, ff2 TA! A.O uf3,4,3+4 DRAG dash f3~df 1+2 (dmg 101)
DRAG qcf1, f24, ff2 TA! A.O uf3,4,3+4 DRAG dash f3~df 1+2 (dmg 97)
.....actually, just add in drag's f3~df 1+2 after any A.O's uf3,4,3+4 fillers.
A.Ogre lead/ Drag 2nd-ary:
A.O bf4, UF4, 32, d1 TA! DRAG f24 A.O deep dash uf3,4,3+4 (iirc 107dmg)
A.O bf4, UF4, 32, d1 TA! DRAG f443 A.O uf1+2 (100++dmg)


Thats all folks. just started using drag recently. so these are pretty much my BnB
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#158 “Quote” Edit Post
Drag: qcf+1~5 Marduk: fc 1+2 d/f+4,2~5 Drag: SS f+2,4 Marduk: uf+3 ff+1+2= 106 damage

sometimes the (f+2)4 whiffs I don't know why, maybe I'm doing it late
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#159 “Quote” Edit Post
What are people doing for low parry?

I was playing around today and the strongest I could find was iWS+4, 1, f+3~CDc 1, f+3~CDc 1, f+3~CD 1+2 for 42 points.
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#160 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by tyler2k
What are people doing for low parry?

I was playing around today and the strongest I could find was iWS+4, 1, f+3~CDc 1, f+3~CDc 1, f+3~CD 1+2 for 42 points.

There's these:
iWS+4, 1, f+3~df CD+4, d+4,4 - 43 damage
d+2, WS+4, 1, f+3 CDc 1, f+3 CDc d+4,4 - 43 damage
d+2, WS+4, 1, f+3 CDc 1, f+3 CDc 4,1 - 40 damage (wall carry)

There's also Aris's one which is:
d+2, WS+4, 1, f+3 CDc f+4,4,3 - 44 damage
But that of course is fairly tricky.

Last edited by CKeegan on Feb 6th, 2013 at 21:23

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