Unknown Juggles: Bring in the Spikes!

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Exterminator_
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So I come here to learn more on Unknown juggles as they seem to be badass, only to be welcomed by probably the deadest character forum ever.

So I'll go on ahead and arrange any juggles the good people of TZ can contribute and hopefully be of some help to whomever will pick up unknown, if any I hope
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Look at Juns combos.
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The only differences have been listed in the changes thread.

Last edited by Jason4579 on Feb 9th, 2013 at 01:36

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Exterminator_
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really? thought the spikes were gonna be significant though, oh well
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Well, the spikes seem only to add some distance to your moves, after playing Junknown I hardly find much difference in their combos, well, other than the spikes and sideboobs.
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Originally posted by Misiokus
Well, the spikes seem only to add some distance to your moves, after playing Junknown I hardly find much difference in their combos, well, other than the spikes and sideboobs.


Well ss+2 B the giant hand does help in this tiny juggle. And uf+4, 3~B is a mini juggle with the spikes but you can get more damage with a normal juggle.
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Lili/Unknown Juggle:

This usually works on wall stages depending on the distance. The best stage to test this on is Snoop Dogg's stage. If you time the wall splat right, you can't tag crash.

Unknown: f+2, uf+3, b+2,1,f+1+2,1+2 (Bound and tag, aka 5), Lili: f+2,3 (wall splat), Unknown: f,f, 1+2 (or f, 1+2 depending on distance) as soon as opponent wall splats. 103 damage.
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Jun/Unknown combo video by me

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Very entertaining.
Great job!
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The skipes can help in some combos as Unknown but you should use her to just wall trap them with 1+2 xD
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uf+4,3 (TA!) Jun b+4,2, Unknown f+4, f+3,f+1+2, Izu 2 (71 pts)

b+3~Tag, Jun 1, f+3,f+1+2 etc.
^WOW this works with Jun and with Unknown!!!!!!!!

Jun f+2~Tag, Unknown b+4,2, f+3,f+1+2, Izu 1+2 (TA!) Jun b+4,2, Unknown f,f,f+3 (87 pts)

Is there a better TA! that I can use and still get the f,f,f+3 post TA! combo ender?

luksgammer360, I have to say that omitting the damage in your combo video is a major fuck up, man. How are we supposed to know if what you are doing is any better than what we are already doing?
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Junknown's TA! consists of f,F+2,3 for a high float or d/f+2,2 for a spike.

Junknown's staple for f+2~5 is the exact same as the solo staple.

f+2, 3, b+4,2, f+3,f+1+2 IZU 1+2 B!


Forest, you could just work out the damage yourself, it's really not that hard. Telling someone who put so much time and effort into an awesome CMV that they 'fucked up' is hardly a friendly gesture.
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Thanks for the combos, Jason4579.

What are the wall combos? Like if I get a wallsplat and bound with df+2,2, what TA! do I use and whatnot?

Come on man. I need to know the damage!!! It might be super hard execution and be like 2 points less than what I already use.
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Originally posted by forest16
Thanks for the combos, Jason4579.

What are the wall combos? Like if I get a wallsplat and bound with df+2,2, what TA! do I use and whatnot?

Come on man. I need to know the damage!!! It might be super hard execution and be like 2 points less than what I already use.


The combo off of f+2 does 9 more damage than the combo you were using. Alternatively, you could end with:
Unknown Dash SSL b+2,1,2,2 Jun f,f,f+3
Same damage but looks nicer~

At the wall, these combos are consistent and do good damage:
Jun / Unknown
B!~5 u/b+2,1 f+1,4
B!~5 1,1,4 f+1,4
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f+1,4? That's the max? Does it wall break?
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Originally posted by forest16
f+1,4? That's the max? Does it wall break?


Use f,f+2,2 or b+2,1,1 for wall breaks.
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My old wall combo - work either way

Jun / Unknown


W! d+2 TA! 2,1,4,1, b+2>3
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Originally posted by Jason4579
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I stopped using Unknown since I only used her for the u/f+2 gimmicks, but everyone has started to step her at all ranges now so she's no fun anymore :'(
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I never really used Unknown to be honest; no reversal, no mid i12 1+2 and no +frames on hit for b+4,2. The only pros are b+2,1,2,2 working pretty well as a TA! filler and d+2 having infinite vertical range lol.

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