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St. George
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#41 “Quote” Edit Post
WS3 is a bit slow though
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#42 “Quote” Edit Post
still haven't been able to get f+3 off of post 1,1,2 back roll. i'm getting a lot of f,f+3 instead, any tips.
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#43 “Quote” Edit Post
CD~n~f,f3 is what I do... it works most of the time.
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#44 “Quote” Edit Post
Just do run up, back, f+3. Nothing to it.

No reason to try and wavedash there since you're basically running up to them for free anyways because of a knockdown.

Anyone up for a Kaz oki tutorial vid? I actually have real capture capabilities now.
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#45 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Gandido
Just do run up, back, f+3. Nothing to it.

No reason to try and wavedash there since you're basically running up to them for free anyways because of a knockdown.

Anyone up for a Kaz oki tutorial vid? I actually have real capture capabilities now.


Go for it. Curious to see what you've found.
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#46 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Gandido

Anyone up for a Kaz oki tutorial vid? I actually have real capture capabilities now.


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#47 “Quote” Edit Post
Gandido you make that video yet?

anyone actually try this set up....

ss+3, d/b+2, ws+2, b+1+4 tech catch?
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#48 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Honkey#1
Gandido you make that video yet?

anyone actually try this set up....

ss+3, d/b+2, ws+2, b+1+4 tech catch?
Wow wtf? That's awesome! Seems to only work on tech-right, though.
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#49 “Quote” Edit Post
yea it's pretty useless. still cool for laughs.

I hardly ever throw out ss+3 b/c he has other options that are "ok"...

now ss+3, d/b+2 delayed wgf tech, on any tech roll has character come up bt. What useful things can come of this? I'm not sure anything is free afterwards. d/f+1,4.......have to test some more.
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Honkey - I'm editing a Guy advanced play tutorial for SRK that I recorded about a week ago. After that, I'm doing Kaz then DJ or vice versa.
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#51 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Gandido
Honkey - I'm editing a Guy advanced play tutorial for SRK that I recorded about a week ago. After that, I'm doing Kaz then DJ or vice versa.
I'll look forward to your findings.
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Originally posted by MYK [jamgi]
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#52 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Gandido
Honkey - I'm editing a Guy advanced play tutorial for SRK that I recorded about a week ago. After that, I'm doing Kaz then DJ or vice versa.


gotcha.
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#53 “Quote” Edit Post
Does anyone know of any possible oki you can get off of ss 1+2? Anything that would make it worth using over kaz's standard punch combos would be really cool.
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#54 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Taiosgoblin
Does anyone know of any possible oki you can get off of ss 1+2? Anything that would make it worth using over kaz's standard punch combos would be really cool.


u/f+4~3 if they don't roll away... run up d+3+4....

ss+1+2 has better properties next to the wall.
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#55 “Quote” Edit Post
edit:

about the f+3 backrollcatch after 112

have to hold the 3 after 112 on hit
than CD~cancel (3)+4

(hold the 3) ...f,n,d,df~f+4... and f+3 comes out really fast and easy!!!


no WR3
no special timing

Last edited by Funky_button on Apr 5th, 2011 at 23:59

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#56 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Funky_button
edit:

about the f+3 backrollcatch after 112

have to hold the 3 after 112 on hit
than CD~cancel (3)+4

(hold the 3) ...f,n,d,df~f+4... and f+3 comes out really fast and easy!!!


no WR3
no special timing

Ooh, I like that. It's the slowest "plink" of all time.
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#57 “Quote” Edit Post
Hmmm, alright for casual combos i use what you say in your first post anyways. An ender i tend to use much is !B d/f3>2>1, i 'd like to know what are my best options after 1 knocks them onto a wall, small distance from me, since it's a common situation.

Another regards regular 1+2; what are the best options after it. Oh and ofc regular HS.

I'll do some testing on the weekend too. I got the feeling b+4,1 might do for oki, i ll try to check this.
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#58 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by SteveDD
Hmmm, alright for casual combos i use what you say in your first post anyways. An ender i tend to use much is !B d/f3>2>1, i 'd like to know what are my best options after 1 knocks them onto a wall, small distance from me, since it's a common situation.

Another regards regular 1+2; what are the best options after it. Oh and ofc regular HS.

I'll do some testing on the weekend too. I got the feeling b+4,1 might do for oki, i ll try to check this.

After 1+2 you can do 3x ewgf, unless they techroll to their right... then you get nothing guaranteed. A mix up of your choice.
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#59 “Quote” Edit Post
Wow, I never knew this thread got moved.

Been feeling like doing a writeup, but there's sooooo much more things that need to be covered:

•Killing quick tags
•Killing tag techroll
•Countering tag crash

There's a lot of stuff that needs to be explored for everyone's sake. I'm solid that Kaz has some of the better blessings out of all the Mishimas near the wall. There's already some things being covered on my end that I've tested out which I can add for all of you. Hopefully, it's better that we just make a new, organized thread that covers it all.
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#60 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by GanymeDes
After 1+2 you can do 3x ewgf, unless they techroll to their right... then you get nothing guaranteed. A mix up of your choice.


ewgfs are always guaranteed after 1+2. Timing is very strict.

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