again i would want to correct these combos of yours leonized

heres a staple alisa/ogre combo,... i kinda tried to experiment and surprisingly they're both very efficient at tag assault thus maximizing the damage

Alisa LEAD/Ogre ASSIST
-(A)df2/CH4 b1 ws2,1 f1 b4,3~5B! TA (O)df1+2(A) ff2,3
-(A)uf4,4/b3+4,3+4~5 B! TA (O) uf3,4,3+4 (A) WR 3,4 (land this and you see your opponent half life)
-(A)ff1+2 d1 ws1,2 b2,1~5B! TA(O)df3+4 3+4 (A) WR2
Red life killer
-(A)b3+4~5(O)fly 1 dash 3,2 db1B! dash b4,3,3+4
WALL
-(A)W! uf4,4~5B!(O)uf1+2 1+2(A) ff344/ff1+2,2

Ogre LEAD/alisa ASSIST
-(O)df1+2 df3,2~5B! TA (A) ff344 (O) ffly1,2,1+2
-(O)ws2 u3+4~5B! TA(A)ff344 (O)Dash ub3~f1,2,1+2
-(O)CH SS+4, WS+4, df3,2~5B! TA(A)b3+4 3+4(O)ffly 1,2,1+2
-(O)u+4~u, FLY+1,2,1+2~5B! TA(A)b3+4 3+4(O) ffly 1,2,1+2

Red life killer
-(O)ss2~5(A) b1 ws1,2 f1 b4,3 b! ff f414
WALL
-(O)w! df3,2~5B! TA(A)b3+4 3+4(O)[*in between alisa's b3+4 3+4]4 uf1+2 1+2

notice how i try to do an early bound for almost every combo, imo its the best way to maximize they're capabilities of Tag assist which is where they both excel at.

I'm trying to play Prologue, anything with Alisa lead Devil Kazuya assist? The only thing I found was:
(A)staple combo, 5B!, (DK)df+1,2, (A)running 2

That doesn't hurt much. Anyone found something else more damaging and consistent?

use ssl, cd41 with d.kaz instead of df12. probably the strongest option

What is Alisa's default Tag-assault move? (You know, the one that comes out when you hold 5 in)

Are you sure these two will work?

*skeptical face*

Will Ogre able to pick up with Fly 1 2 1+2 after Alisa's B 3+4 3+4 ground slamming?

Second one should work. First one, however, I'm not sure. I'll try it out later.

Updated first post and the Alisa/Lars post with new/better combos.


EDIT:

(O)u+4~u, FLY+1,2,1+2~5B! TA(A)b3+4 3+4(O) ffly 1,2,1+2

does not work. The b+3+4,3+4 slams them down, which makes Ogre unable to pickup with fFLY 1,2,1+2. The best alternative I could find was:

u+4~u, FLY 1,2,1+2~5 TA!, db+2,2, deep dash ub+3~f, fFLY 1,2,1+2

I forgot to try: u+4~u, FLY 1,2,1+2~5 TA!, ff+3,4,4, fFLY 1,2,1+2. Ogre and Alisa just don't mix well together.

Last edited by Demoyon on Jul 15th, 2012 at 14:14

I tried. Mixes well like water and sugar.

For this combo,
u+4~u, FLY 1,2,1+2~5 TA!, ff+3,4,4, fFLY 1,2,1+2
After numerous practices, I finally found out the trick. When Alisa doing FF 3,4,4, wait for her to shout "YAH!" That's the cue for Ogre to start flying. And the Ogre's range of FLY 1 2 1 1+2 is so ridiculous, it makes it possible. When I'm using Alisa, since she has the FFF 2 or FFF 3 4, makes it possible to use Ogre's UF 3 4 3+4 tag assist. When using this combo for Alisa
B 3+4 3+4 or UF 4 4, [OGRE TA] UF 3 4 3+4, FFF 3 4. You're sure to leave the enemy hurting. Bad.
Well, I still have things to learn on Ogre but truthfully, he's pretty beast.

If ya guys want feel free to drop some combo knowledge here
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/forum...178#post4552178

Go ahead and take the combos on the first post. There's also a list there with specific partner combos (currently has Yoshimitsu, Lars, and Ogre).

I'm currently working on specific combos with Xiaoyu; I'll add that when it's complete.

Cool i added most of the first post..very organized well organized i must say.

All combos added to the list. I'll look out for your ali+ling combos.

We don't have the game here in USA yet, so I can't experiment. Any combos with Nina + Alisa? Both with Nina starting and Alisa starting?

Off the top of my head (untested, but should work):

Nina / Alisa

uf+4,4~5 TA! or b+3+4,3+4~5 TA!
- iWS+4,3, iWS+2~3+4, FLY 1,2,1,3+4

df+2, b+1, ws+1,2, b+2,1~5 TA!, iWS+4,3, iWR+2

Any taggable launcher~5, b+1 into staple juggle

Can't think of anything with Nina being on point.

W!, df+1, 1+4~5 TA!, b+3+4,3+4, df+1,2,f+1+2
W!, uf+4,4~5 TA!, 4,3,d+4,3, ff+2,3


Additional juggles by random0101:

Last edited by Demoyon on Jan 1st, 2013 at 02:12

Not really that familiar with Xiao, so only a few combos listed.

Xiaoyu / Alisa

Xiaoyu Lead

df+2~1 or uf+3
-> df+2, ff+1+2,1+2~5 TA!, b+3+4,3+4, deep dash 1,d+2,1+2

df+2~1~5, f+1, iWS+1,2, f+1, b+4,3 B!
-> ~5 TA!, d+1+2, AOP b+3+4, RDS 1,4, iWR+2
-> dash f+4,1,4 (red life kill)
-> dash b+3+4~5 (back to Xiaoyu)

RDS 4~5, b+1, ws+1,2, f+1, b+4,3 B!
-> ~5 TA!, d+1+2, AOP b+3+4, RDS 1,4, iWR+2
-> dash f+4,1,4 (red life kill)
-> dash b+3+4~5 (back to Xiaoyu)

AOP uf+3,3, ff+1+2,1+2~5 TA!, b+3+4,3+4, deep dash 1,d+2,1+2

AOP uf+3,1~5 TA!, iWS+2~3+4, FLY 1,2,1,3+4, iWR+3

Alisa Lead

ws+2~5, iWR+3, AOP 1,2, RDS 2,2 B!
-> ~5 TA!, uf+3,2, dash 4~3
-> RDS 1,4 (red life kill)
-> RDS f+3+4,3+4~5 (back to Alisa)

df+2, b+1, ws+1,2, f+1, b+4,3~5 TA!, d+1+2, AOP b+3+4, RDS 1,4, iWR+2

uf+4,4~5 TA!, d+1+2, AOP b+3+4, RDS 1,4, f+3+4, FLY 1,2,1,3+4

Wall

W!, ff+1+2,1+2~5 TA!, b+3+4,3+4, b+3, RDS 2,2,1~d (Ling's b+3 hits in between Alisa's b+3+4,3+4)

W!, uf+4,4~5 TA!, f+2,1,4, ff+1+2~2

Alisa / Jaycee:

- CH 4, f,f, b+1, WS 1,2, f+1,b+4,3~5 TA! d/b+1+2,1+2 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 97dmg

- CH 4, f,f, d/f+1,f+1,f+2,f+1,b+4,3~5 TA! d/b+1+2,1+2 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 92dmg

- u/f+4,4~5 TA! d/b+2 <iWS 2~3+4 BOOT 1,2,1,3+4 74dmg
You need to delay the iWS 2 in order to get it consistently. You can do the juggle going straight into BOOT but it's a lot less damage. Here's an alternative, still less damaging :

- u/f+4,4~5 TA! d,d/f+1~4,d/f+4,2,3 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 65dmg

- d/f+2, b+1, WS 1,2, f+1, b+4,3~5 TA! d/b+1+2,1+2 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 80dmg

- WS 2~5 f,f d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 107dmg

- b+3+4~5_DES 2~5 d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 102dmg_107dmg, with DES 2 I suggest you do b,b before shotgun

- b+3+4,3+4~5 TA! d/b+2 iWS 2~3+4 BOOT 1,2,1,3+4 91dmg

- f,f+1+2, d+1, WS 1,2, f+1, b+4,3~5 TA! d/b+1+2,1+2 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 82dmg

- 1+2~5 d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 103dmg

- BACKUP 4~5 f,f,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 115dmg

Jaycee/Alisa:

- CH 4, d,d/f+1~4,1,f,f+1,f,f+1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 94dmg

- u/f+4,3, d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 98dmg

- WS 1~5 b+1,WS 1,2, f+1, b+4,3~5 TA! d/b+1+2,1+2 f,f, f+1,b,f+2 79dmg

- WS 1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 95dmg

- qcf+2_d/f+2,1, f,f, d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 99dmg_106dmg

- b+1+2,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 106dmg

- b+1+2,f,f,d+2,3,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 99dmg

- SS 3+4, d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 108dmg

- f,f+4,SSR d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 102dmg

- f,f+4,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 91dmg

- f+3~3,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1,d,d/f+1~4,1+2~5 TA! u/f+3,2 iSW 102dmg

Main options with Jaycee doing the TA!

- TA! u/f+3,2iSW_f+2+3 most damaging, pretty hard to get the iSW in every situation. If you do f+2+3 instead of iSW you get 6dmg less.

- TA! SSR d+4,1+2 iSW_iWR1 does 4dmg_8dmg less

- TA! SSL d/b+2,2 iSW_iWR1 does 7dmg_11dmg less


Wall

- (b+3)W! b+4,3~5 TA! 3~b~f 1+2,4,b,f+1+2 f,f+1+2:2 DES_d+2,4 107dmg_101dmg. If you bind with u/f+4,4 it's gonna be 1dmg less.


- (f,f+3)W! u/f+2~5_b+1~5 TA! f+3+4 BOOT 1,2,1,3+4 d/f+3+4 95dmg_91dmg

- (f,f+3)W! u/f+2~5_b+1~5 TA! f,f+3,4,4 d/f+3+4 91dmg_87dmg

- W! b+2,1+2~5 TA! f+3+4 BOOT 1,2,1,3+4 d/f+3+4

- W! b+2,1+2~5 TA! f,f+3,4,4 d/f+4,2,b,f+1

b+2,1+2 is the most damaging B! option for Jaycee, but it has to be a little high splat or it won't work; u/f+2 is the second most damaging but b+1 is just more reliable. There's also iWS2,2 but I don't think is useful with this team.

Last edited by rivie2x on Apr 25th, 2013 at 23:19

Thanks, added to the first post.

ws+2~5 kuni ff+3+4,2,4~5, alisa b+3+4, (kuni f+4~f) 3+4, kuni set 4
99

damn it JT, now you made me think about maining Kuni or at least use her seriously haha

Sorry that I am not bringing anything to the table yet but I have two quick questions. The first one is do the combos in the first post still work? The other question is are the bolded parts (Like the first bolded part in the first post) the combo and then everything under that are possible enders? I am sorry if that sounds dumb but my brain is getting a little overloaded.

Yes, the combos still work. I keep the list updated all the time, taking out combos that don't work and adding new ones that are better than the ones currently posted.

The bolded part in the list is the launcher, then everything under it works. Usually it ends after the B! part. You then go to the post-bound enders section and pick one that fits the situation.