ina tekken has 2 versions of
1,2~3_4
and d,df+1~3_4
-9(-14G), -3, -3
+1, +7, +7
and
-13G, -2, -2
-5, +6, +6
1,2 is confusing too
-1(-6), +5, +5
what does the g stand for??
how is the 1,2~3_4 +1 on block version done?? jf??
or is it +1 if you continue with the string and - whatever if you stop?!?!?
and why is 1,2 -1 and -6 on block??? can this be seen or do you have to guess at what disatvantage you are
in the arcade build i played in Cannes (which seemed pretty up to date) empty spin was still unsafe so maybe it is what you say with 1,2~3_4 being +1 if you input any of the follow-ups
the rest of the discrepencies seems to be inatekken being crap as usual
4) no 50/50 after MA, weaker oki off her new 1 and 2 throws
5) bow and arrow kicks no longer w!
6) 4 -12 on block (hard to punish)
7) no cancel-able taunt T_T
pros:
1) MA does more damage
2) isw adds to her pressure immensely, wr3 is icing on the cake altough not + on block
3) bow and arrow now gives guaranteed d3/df3/ff1 oki
4) i12 punishment with 2~b, 2+3
5) better oki with d2+3
6) quick + on hit low with db4, more + on block moves with f3,1_ff4
7) safe tech jump uf2 that gives w! and OC on block
Essentially Julia's ch options are more unsafe, she lost the damage off ff3 but has gained better oki and pressure in return, her tag combos are excellent as we all new they would be and her tag launchers are once step below Mishima's with ws1~5, df2,1~5 (risky) and qcf2~5.
isw just makes her better in my opinion and as long as your shotgun (spin) yomi is good, her ch game is still the same - all the match vids are showing this too. She's also more fun with all the 'King's' moves they gave her. Can't wait to see if any BT, uf3+4 setups are possible. (copyrighted that in advance)
Someone translated a recent tier list that had her down to C, which is whatever since it's obviously subject to change.
It's sounding like I'll be relying on 4,2~1 mix ups for my splats. If they buffed the movement, 4~2,1 will be an even more interesting move than it already is.
Originally posted by |Galen|
Maybe bow and arrow will give the same WS4 trap with b+3,4 if that crap is still in.
BnA b+3,4
WS4 b+3,4
im guessing you havent played the game? bow and arrow gives a ground splat now, which isnt techable. which means the tech catching b+3,4 isnt part of the mixup. elbow/df+3 picks them up if they twitch, d+3 hits either way, d+2+3 hits if they stay down, safe if they get up, ff+2 hits alarmingly regularly even if ppl get up (i think alot of them duck for some reason?)