Changes don't seem that bad at all. Wondering what's up with CH d/f+2 and CH d/b+4, that's all.

its all the same! CH db+4 and df+2 still joggles! uf+3 still look the same...when un-expected still hard to punish...up to this point still i cant see any changes....my concern was rumor said f+1+2 is launch punish so that was the first thing i tested...and i was surprised that Nina/Anna's df1,2 a i13 frame cant even punish it!

other thing tested:
rumor said that all hoop kicks are -14 still not true Lili's uf+3 is just -13
Lee's ws+2,3 is launch punish -16 and Heihachi's db+2 from -15 with slite pushback to -16 no pushback
ogre winning moon +13 no more tag joggle after!
Devil Jin B+4 no longer Knocks down and no more wall splat
Leo's B+4,1+2 no more pushback but from -14 to -8 or -9

I tested it; it's -14. I had my friend (Nina player) mash f+3 and it hit.

oh my...Df+1,2 is i13 wont connect...it was the first thing we tested this morning...i really hope its -14 but we are having a hard time connecting df,1,2

It's -14. I've had it punished by Nina f+3 (i14) and Asuka uf+2 (i14). Test it again. Block it and mash the hell out of Nina f+3.

wooow thank you so much! i'll try it tomorrow! f1+2 is such a pain in the A**

Last edited by Evil_Nurse_Anna on Mar 27th, 2012 at 20:54

didn't notice anything about the d/b+4 (ch) in the video, it seems all same :S

is it confirm the f+1+2 is -14? did somebody tried it out??

f+1+2 being -14 is already confirmed.

For NH df+2 and NH db+4, I've read somewhere that they're both +2 on hit now, which is a nerf from the previous +4 and +5.

Toptier Lars got nerfed.
What is the change about his CH d/f+2? This move is already -10 in TTT2, but the damage is still godlike in original TTT2.
I will probably abuse f,f+1+2 for CH now...

df+2 (normal hit) is only +2 on hit now instead of +4. CH df+2 is still the same.

yey lars players will drop him and in result he will become less more popular =profit for me

BTW what are some of lars' better tag assist fillers?

He's still gonna be top tier in TTT2U. Like forreal.

No, not really. Everyone already knows how to play against Lars. It's basically just block and wait for the launch punishable lows. That's how it's been since BR.

As for TA fillers, there's b+3,4 (iirc) and f,f+2~SE 3 (or SE1 I guess?). At the wall, I believe it's 1+2~b, f+4,1,2,1. Not sure what else though, I've only spent like 8-9 hours with the game max.

Lars is still top tier. People won't drop him simply because of these nerfs. His overall gameplay is still very solid.

Hi guys, did anyone tried b+2, 3? Is it still hit confirmable?

One of my friends tried it. He said it's quite a bit harder to HC now.

The timing is stricter now. However, b+2>1 still has the long HC window.

Thanks guys. I thought it wasn't hc-able when I tried it earlier and the move just didn't come out. I wonder what's the frame timing to hc it.

What would his strongest 'ender' be in a combo?
-d/b 2~f SE1
-fff 1+2 (iSW) unaffected by scaling
-DE1:2 (Just Frame) might suffer from scaling due to an extra hit...so is it worth it?
-or any other?
And how difficult is his just frame to perform?

(I would've tested this myself but t.v's broken :'( )

Thanks in advance.

Last edited by Superboltboy on Apr 6th, 2012 at 23:28