Yeah I thought about that too a while ago but I forgot about it.

I guess hs,df4,1 gives better travel and okizeme (?) but that's the question.

Have you researched what oki options are avaliable from hs,4,4 ?
It should spike I guess, so perhaps there is some sick oki and then it would totally be worth doing if you know you cant reach a wall.

I think they're left to far away after the spike. Quickstand just negates any oki...

AHA! A couple pages back I was asking about how the 2,2~1 combos...

...well, over on ATP there was a SIDETURN combo movie showing 2,2~1 connecting from pretty far to the side/back! DUUUH! 2,2~1 seems to combo from side/back apparently - just not from straight on.

If someone finds doing ewgf's difficult you could do a more consistent 70dmg juggle from ch ws2.

ch ws+2, ssr, cd4n4, d+1 B! cd 441 = 70.


Other than that, if you don't want to go ewgf in regular juggles (you will have to do a deeper CD after B! though) do this:

launch, df+1, b+2,1, d+1, B!, cd (deep) 441, =72dmg on ewgf (or wgf) and 75dmg on ff+2.

Easy staples, probably alot more consistent until you're able to EWGF properly.

Greetings. I main Jin but I want to learn Heihachi. Why is this thread so quiet?

Heihachi is not the best character in the game ( not even close ), and online he has severe dis-advantages. No one mains him because he is an advanced player to use with little to no trade-off for mastering him.

Last edited by VargasTheSick on Sep 11th, 2011 at 06:41

Yeah I figured. Sad to say. Is Heihachi mediocre like Jin? Mind if I ask? Mastering Jin really pays off. I want to see Heihachi for myself. Im the kind of player who plays a character because He/She is my favorite not because that character is High,Mid, or Low tier.

I felt sorry for the old fart so I decided to put a little love into learning him.

He actually is AMAZING fun, I love the guessing games and the rock hard Oki.

Anyways I had some tinkering round for some fun combos and I though I'd throw this one up. I actually hit a guy with this online. it works in open stages or else from roughly the middle of large stages.


(close range) d3+4 ... 2, f1+2, (B!) df3,2,2(miss),4,4,1,4,1(w!),2(w!),4.

the least damage this does is 111 (no W!'s, no CH, shortest charge time) and the most, without rage is 172 (full charge, CH, 3 wall hits)

with rage it is a death combo.

There are more damaging combos from d3+4 ... 2, but seeing as this is the only launch/bind I've found that makes the entire 10 hit (except the hit that's supposed to miss) hit, it's like a wasted opportunity if you clonk a guy with it. It's a supremely luxurious insult, a unblockable, a bind, a 10 hit. It also seems to work on most hit boxes, but heihatchi himself and weirdos like lily seem a little harder to time, and I havn't looked at the bears.

back to more serious business, Online(when not playing total plebs) I was using
CD 4, n, 4,4 to train to block mid for combos starting from
CD 4, 4, n, 4 (then onward to B! and ender of your choice).

I main him. I'll be back soon

Just wanted to post a Hei on Azazel combo
Ewgf, dewgf x 4, d+1 (b!) 1,b+2,4
9 hit juggle. I think the only damage which could top this is
Ewgf, Otgf, dewgfX3, d+1 (b!) 1,b+2,4