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#101 “Quote” Edit Post
So I have always played Mishima's since the dawn of time. So when Jin changed his moveset in T4 I havent paid him much mind. I braodened my horizons a bit in BR console and played Lars and small doses of Lee and I'm looking to try Jin out again when TTT2 console comes out. What benefits are there to playing him. What sort of changes should i be making in my gameplan going forward. What benefits and disadvantages will I have coming from a pure mishima (and by pure mishima I mean I have pretty much played Kazuya exclusively) background.
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Jamakusai
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#102 “Quote” Edit Post
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Hi!
I too was wondering about any good DVJ-Jin Combos
Right now im using
DVJ EWGF ff+3,1~ff 2 df1+2 TA! JIN b+3~f CDS 1+2 DVJ uf1+2
and
JIN ECD+1 bf+2,1 1~33 TA! DVJ f2,4 JIN ff+2
Im wondering if there is a better alternative for the latter combo where DVJ does the TA!
My wall combo is usually
DVJ b1,2 W! df 1,2 B!JIN bf 212 DVJ df+4,4(spike)/ b+4
Jin 1+2 W! 1,2,3 B! DVJ bf 212 JIN 1+2
Any adjustments or alterations are welcome


with DVJ on point, I'd go EWGF, EWGF, d/f+1+2 TA! Jin b,f+2,3~f, cds1+2; DVJ dash f+3+4_f,f+2_dash EWGF_u/f+1+2_cd3_wr3_etc.

DVJ standard TA! for something that short would be [ ssr, f,f+3,1~ff, d/f+3,2,4 ]

at wall, after TA! Jin b,f+2,1,2; I'd try side stepping or setting up some sort of oki. reduces the amount of damage, but gives better opportunities for other things
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Question:

When Jin tag out after the ki charge from f+4~d+1+2.. will the ki charge stay when Jin tag in? same for the TA when Jin assist..
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#104 “Quote” Edit Post
Dont have it here in New York yet but it should only stay for like 5 seconds like any normal ki charge. Tested on prologue.
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#105 “Quote” Edit Post
what's his most damaging W! move?

in tekken 6 I used bf 212 but I don't know if he has a better one know
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#106 “Quote” Edit Post
what's his most damaging W! move?

in tekken 6 I used bf 212 but I don't know if he has a better one know
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#107 “Quote” Edit Post
Does df14 wall splat?
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#109 “Quote” Edit Post
Is his 2,4 safe on block?
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#110 “Quote” Edit Post
It's -13 on block so not safe. And god forbid the opponent blocks the punch and ducks the kick....ugh
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#111 “Quote” Edit Post
That should never be used outside of 10f punishing unless going for a splat (which even then is iffy), but -13? Christ. It wasn't that bad in T6 was it?
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#112 “Quote” Edit Post
Yeah, -13 in BR too.
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#113 “Quote” Edit Post
@Rezz

Actually, it was -13f in Tekken 6, I believe.

But I believe in TTT2 Unlimited, 2,4 is -10f. But it doesn't matter because pros just duck the kick.



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His strongest W! combos depend on the bound you used.

W! ws+1,2 B! b,f+2,1,2

W! 1,2,3 B! CDS+1,2

W! d/f+4 B! 3,1, 1+2

Best no-bound Wall Combo for Jin is 2, d/b+2,2,3
For smaller opponents, it's 1, d/b+2,2,3
For big opponents, it's ws+2, d/b+2,2,3
For the bears, the best and safest Wall Combo would be 3,1, 1,3,2,1,4.



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#114 “Quote” Edit Post
Jin has this stance(i dunno if i should call it omen.....yet) in TTT2 that allows him to use some of his T3 moves right?

Well EWGF or something looking like an EWGf is one of these and i was wondering if it would be better to use the pseudo-EWGF over CH EWHF(yes i know the stance takes a few frames and you need DVJ as a partner)
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#115 “Quote” Edit Post
Well, it's good to use that pseudo-EWGF because you can pull it off even if you do the command slowly.
But the Omen Stance takes a long time to recover. It's good to use against noobs and scrubs but against pros, not a good idea.

And btw, you can do the Omen Stance even if your partner is Heihachi, not Devil Jin.
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#116 “Quote” Edit Post
About doing it on people of different skill levels. We had a bit of a discussion a while back on possibilities to make it work out on opponents for different setups. While I would do a wall splat / wall splat to a bound Id do 1,3-b ,omen in hopes of tricking the opponent to be hasty and Hit during b+1+2 getting -f and possible followup based on the stun but there's risk of killing yourself by being charged. Corpsethrust talked about doing it mid combo where the danger of doin the omen and having the charge canceled because of contact during omen. Excellent on him, reaction dependant risk yet fun on me.
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#117 “Quote” Edit Post
Can anyone tell me all of Jin's jailing strings?
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#118 “Quote” Edit Post
Would b3~f, 1, EGHF connect after bound??
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#120 “Quote” Edit Post
How do you cancel Jin's CDS? Like the ones being done by HAO?

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