double.

With d+2 B! d/f+1, f+1, 3,2,3 I agree with you, it's very situational. If you are slightly Off Axis it will whiff.
But I always thought that this combo is only possible for Kuma. Never tried it on Jack / Marduk, nice to know that it will also hit these two.

ws4 or qcf4 against AOP, yeah maybe you are right there. They won't do it full screen. I spoke of Eddy, because I don't have any experience against Lings. What about df2? Does it hit Ling in her stance? Because of its very low hitbox it is no problem to hit Eddy out of rlx. I have to try it out, when I have a ps3 around ...

Oh, my bad ff3 is really 14f - so even better for us. So we don't have to fear her Punishment at all.
I think the low Crush of her Hopkick comes to slow after the spin - so d3+4 will beat it. But I have to try it again next session, I am not really sure of it now.

Last edited by Bunny- on Sep 19th, 2011 at 08:56

d/f+2 probably works against AOP, but it's generally too risky against better players. The Ling I'm playing regularly just shoulders my d/f+2 on block and that hurts.

Hopkick will indeed crush d+3+4 or sitjabs both after shotgun or prior spin-movie hits or is blocked. I know because I play Julia

I'm pretty sure f,f+3 can be buffered so it comes out at 13 frames.

No, it can't be made faster than 14 frames. Julia's d/f+1 on crouchers gives +14, and to hit f,f+3 from that is a just frame. Only Kazuya has a standing 13f launcher in T6BR with his PEWGF.

About time to make a new thread, Rirreboff. (1000+ post)

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