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XelNaga
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#1 “Quote” Edit Post
I know I am jumping the gun here (I also did this in the Asuka forums). But here I say we talk about her combos and then her possible moves during Tag assault as the main character, and as the secondary character. I will update this thread as new information comes in

bases pre TA
f+2, u/f+3, f+3,f+1+2, IZU 1+2~5, TA!
getup 3, cc, d/b+4,1+(4),2, f+3,f+1+2, IZU 1+2

With Asuka(blue) and Jun (red)

u/f+4,3~5 TA!b2,4,3 b+2,1,f+1+2, IZU 1+2
d/f+2, u/f+3, 1+4, b+2,4,3 (w!), 2,1,1+2~5, -TA!-, [b+3,<2>], b+2,1,4
(wallsplat!)d+2~5, -TA!-, [b+3,<2>], b+3,2

if asuka is fdfa:
wakeup 3, ws4, 2,1, 2,1,1+2B!~5, b4,2,[blue f2[/blue]
if asuka is fdfa/fufa (situational):
wakeup 3, ss, db4,3 ~5, f3, f1+2, 1+2B! ~5, b2,4,3, dash f2
if jun is fdfa:
wakeup3, ws2, f3, f1+2, 1+2B! ~5, b2,4,3, f1+2, 2
wakeup3, ss, db4,1+4,2, d2B! ~5, b2,4,3, ff2,3

Last edited by XelNaga on Jan 16th, 2012 at 13:56

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Hi! As the main character, her easier combo for Tag Assault would be:
f+2, u/f+3, d/f+2,2(~5) [Tag Filler] ff+2,3

Also, some of her standalone combos:
f+2, u/f+3, b+2,1, b+2,1,f+1+2 ,1+2 (B!), ff+2,3
f+2, u/f+4,3 (B!), u/f+3, b+1,2, b+1,2,4
f+2, u/f+1, b+4,2, f+3,f+1+2, 1,2(B!), ff+2,2

If you partner her with Asuka:

Ask: f+2, u/f+3, b+4,2~5 (TA!) Jun: b+2,1,4 Ask: ff~n, d/b+4,3
Jun: d/f+3+4, b+2,1,f+1+2,1+2~5 (TA!) Ask: d/b+4,3 Jun: ff~n, ff+2,3

Hope this helps!
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in this video here trying to see what the command for the bind is f+1+2 into 1+2 or is it a buffered df2,2

Last edited by XelNaga on Sep 19th, 2011 at 16:03

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video isn't working but jun's b! options off f1+2 (stance) are 1+2 or 1,2

1+2 gives you more hits afterwards and 1,2 has better wall carry

if she can db cancel f1+2 stance then df2,2 could give more damage

i was thinking that jun's df2,2b! would be better at walls for mid and low splats, uf4,3 works for high splats (e3 build anyway)

also b3, 4, 1+4, df2,2b! can anyone test this for a potential b3 staple please?
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ASK/JUN f2_FR(d,df,d,df1+2)~5 Jun uf3, 1+4, b2,1, f1+2,1+2~5 TA! (Ask b2,4,3) Jun wr3_ff2,3

JUN/ASK f2_FR~5 Ask uf3, 1+4, 2,1,1+2~5 TA! (Jun ff2,3) Ask wr3_ff2,1+1+2

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Some wall carry from Tag combo to Tag Assault:

Jun: f+2~5 - Ask: u/f+3, 2,1, b+2,4,3~5 (Wall) - Jun: d/f+2,2~5 (TA!) - Ask: b+2,1,4 - Jun: f+2
Ask: d/b+4,3~5 - Jun: u/f,n~4, b+4,2, f+3, f+1+2, 1+2(TA!) - Ask: 2,3 - Jun: ff+2,3~5 (Wall) - Ask: 1+4,2,d+4
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Iron Lobster - That b+3 combo wont work. The 2nd hit of 1+4 usually whiffs (unless the opp is huge). What i did find though is:
b+3 4 1+42 d+2 b! ff+2,3

It's not super great, but its better than nothing.
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In the second post, "d/f+3+4" is listed, and I don't think that's a move for Jun. I just get d/f3 whenever I do it.

Also after WS3 you can get b+21 f+1+2 1+2 b! ff23
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XCTU - question about juggles

What juggles did you find after uf+4,3?

What's the best bnb you found after standard launches? d+3+4? f+2? FR?

What does her damage output look like overall (both in the standing game, and juggle damage)?

I remember TTT1 was just a pain (low life + low damage = lots of stress), haha.
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Originally posted by XCTU
In the second post, "d/f+3+4" is listed, and I don't think that's a move for Jun. I just get d/f3 whenever I do it.

Also after WS3 you can get b+21 f+1+2 1+2 b! ff23


Oh, sorry, I meant "d+3+4" . Do you play the game? Have you tried the combos I wrote?
Also, two more questions:
1) Does WS+1,4 bound?
2) Does f+4, d+4,4 work?

Thanks!

Last edited by luksgammer360 on Sep 21st, 2011 at 21:57

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#12 “Quote” Edit Post
kab - <3<3<3 Things are good! It's a shame you couldnt make it to CH3, but maybe next year.

Raiden - uf4,3 is actually the one launcher I haven't quite figured out what the best followup is. I keep trying new things using Asuka, like u/f4,3~5 (asuka) 2 1 1+2 (jun) 1+424. I'm def still in the training mode stage with Jun as far as combos go, i think. I'm thinking something like uf4,3 b! 21 b2,1 f1+2 1+2

After her f2 I use u3 f3 b21 f1+2 1+2 b! ff23. For cancans, i do df1 instead of u3. FR, i use the same as f2.

Her damage output is pretty good. She's not nearly as safe as Asuka. df22 is unsafe, even tho its an NC. b42 is also jab punishable. WS21, while a NC, is a MH, so eventually people are gonna see it and punish. 124 is jab punishable, too. So because of this, her pokes do a lot of damage. Her best poke is df11 imo. Its a MM, and its NCC. Her 11 strings are the same as Asuka, so theyre pretty safe. db4 is also the same as Asukas, which is pretty safe. Damage in TTT2 is also overall less than in T6, and she does respectable damage with her combos, so I don't think that's an issue as much as just...using the same pokes as Asuka will get you killed because they're punishable. However, shes got a stance, and I haven't quite figured it out yet, so there's probably a lot there that can be explored.

luksgammer - yea, I play the game. I tried your combos, some of them work, some of them don't. I couldn't get f+3 to connect after b+42. I had a hard time getting Jun to do ff23 after any asuka TA. After I did jun TA with b42, i managed to get asuka ff3, but yeah, I still need some work on them...

As for your questions:
1) No idea about WS14 bound.
2) Ill see if f4 d44 works the next time i play.
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Thanks for the info XCTU! You should try if u/f+3 connects after u/f+4,3 (B!). If so, you can mix it up with b+2,1,f+1+2,2. If not, try this one:

u/f+4,3 (B!), 1+4, b+2,1,f+1+2,4,1
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Ok for uf4,3 I started using b42 f3 f1+2 2. This puts you in a good spot for doing wakeup. I was using b21 instead of f3, but it whiffed on bigger characters, so the f3 one is more universal.

after playing some more i can confirm:
1) ws14 does NOT bounce the opp if it hits them in the air, sadly.
2) f4 d44 works.
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Thanks for the info and the answers! I was expecting ws+1,4 to bound, what a pitty. Happy to know that f+4, d+4,4 works!
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#16 “Quote” Edit Post
off ch f4 (the jin kick!), jun gets 1+4, b2,1,f1+2,1+2b!

played the e3 build again this weekend - with no df1+2 throw etc grr

ff2,3 seems to be the best TA! filler after a long juggle just for covering both bases with a high float and wall carry

Last edited by IRON LOBSTER on Sep 26th, 2011 at 13:29

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#17 “Quote” Edit Post
@Lobster: How the hell did u get another chance with that build.

BTW can you check to see for jun if her df1+2 throw is her tag throw?
IRON LOBSTER
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lucky in cards unlucky in love my friend

they had it at eurogamer - exactly the same two machines me and veggy tested in sweden (i was the first uk head to press start on ttt2!)

being the old build, tag crash and a lot of moves weren't there, so no df1+2 throw for jun


however....

soul calibur 5 was sick!!! we actually rinsed it!!! such a joyous surprise
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#19 “Quote” Edit Post
You're so lucky man!
Wondering if b+2,1,1 works as wall hit...
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A couple updates:
b34 1+42 d2 - after the bound, i was just doing ff23, but you can actually do b214 for more damage. I think they're a little too far for b21 1+2 stuff, but I can double check some other time.

From WS3 and opp bt f2 or cancans - b21 (or 21) b21 f1+2 1+2 b! ff23. You can get 2 reps of the b21 in, even on a BT opponent. It's pretty good damage considering the opp being back turned usually messes up your combos.

After can can kicks, You can also do b42 f3 f1+2 1+2 b! ff23. Instead of just the b21 series, this might be more damage...

Also, 21 is an NC. She has this crazy string 2143, and I dunno how much of it is an NC, where it NCs, where its an NCC etc. It's 21 into a mid knee into another really quick kick. Something to look out for I guess.

And yes, b+211 is a wall string (tho i usually am too used to Asukas f+14, so I do that, but b211 will work too)
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