Goku (SSJ4) vs. Pre-Crisis Superman

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fahad2
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Lets just say SSJ4 is Canon for discussion purposes and try to find out who is stronger. I have been reading about pre-crisis Superman and it looks like even Goku can't measure up for some reason. I never thought there was someone more powerful than Goku, but now this shows up.



Just an example. Discuss.

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Well low powered DBZ characters around 10,000 can destroy planets, Piccolo destroyed the moon when his power level was around 1000-2000 (cant remember if it was canon, but seeing as how you're talking about SSJ4 I guess it can be used anyhow) imagine what a SSJ4 can destroy with his blasts
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Well if they destroy the Sun Supermans fucked.
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Goku wins here because his instant teleport can take Superman into some other solar system or whatever his weak place is and beat him there.

Unfortunately I have to admit Goku lacks Superman's speed because it usually takes him up to 4 episodes to fly from one part of the planet to another

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Now i don't know about pre crisis superman but i know that Superman is the most broken person in existence when it comes to most things and logically will beat goku.
Even if Goku can blow up a planet, Superman is more durable than a planet.
The only reason Superman doesn't destroy planets on a weekly basis is because unlike dbz everyone can't be wished back into place without upsetting the readers on a large scale.

Goku is powerful as fuck and I'm not a fan of either characters to be honest but full power superman will beat full power SSJ4 goku.

Kamehameha is not enough to kill superman, probably not even supergirl or powergirl.

But yeah, no sun or crypronite and superman is dead, but idiot that goku is, he would relocate the fight to somewhere that keeps superman at his norm.
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Originally posted by Mad Hittman
Goku wins here because his instant teleport can take Superman into some other solar system or whatever his weak place is and beat him there.

Unfortunately I have to admit Goku lacks Superman's speed because it usually takes him up to 4 episodes to fly from one part of the planet to another

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Irrelevant, Supes is faster than the Flash on some occasions (who is the fastest being in existence). And at pre-crisis - Superman had unlimited speed.



Also:

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Goku gets stomped badly in a straight fight. He could win with a combination of Taiyo-ken and Kienzan though.
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Originally posted by VargasTheSick
Well if they destroy the Sun Supermans fucked.


Research Superman Prime, actually here it is:



Superman Prime is one the most powerful being that have ever existed. His power is so vast that it could exceed even powerful multiversal entities like Anti-Monitor. Outside of non-corporal cosmic entities who are not limited to singular form entities and are all powerful for example the Presence, he is one of the strongest being in the DC multiverse. He has acquired countless powers and abilities from his travels and lineage that allow him to do almost anything he wishes, they range from teleportation to the manipulation of magic and reality. He can manipulate time, space, matter, and bend reality on any scale he wishes.

Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.

Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead.

Omniscience - Superman Prime knows everything.

Omnipotent

Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.

All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.

Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless.

Godlike Super speed - He can run or fly so fast it's not comprehendible.

Godlike Super Scream

Godlike Super Smell

Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.

Godlike Heat vision

Flight

Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance -

Godlike Super Dexterity

Godlike Invulnerability - Nothing can penetrate him, in fact nothing can hurt him.

Godlike Super Breath

Godlike Super Hearing - He is capable of hearing anything or anyone any where.

Godlike Giant Leaps - This ability could be connected with Flight.

Godlike Enhanced Underwater Breathing - He is capable of breathing under water for centuries. It could be possible that he can hold his breath forever.

Immortality - Superman Prime is immortal, therefore he can't die.

I didn't wanna bring him in discussion, because this guy is basically god. Goku still might stand a chance against Pre-Crisis Supes, but NO ONE stands a chance against SUPERMAN PRIME.
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I'm a huge DBZ fan, but this is where I have to give up...


Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.

Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead.

Omniscience - Superman Prime knows everything.

Omnipotent

Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.

This made me lol. They basically took the Bible or any other big book and copypasata'd this for this guy

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Hard to say. We would have to establish the rules of the universe that the battle would take place in.
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Superman, Goku and Fahad are not real! People need to understand this.
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Think about this way.

Superman and Goku both live in worlds where the good guys win in the end.

They also both live in worlds where the good guys get beaten to bloody pulps, die, and can come back an infinite number of times as it takes for them to eventually win.

Superman and Goku are both good guys.

There is no victor in this battle.
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I can't believe nobody has mentioned this yes, but the answer is Batman.
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Originally posted by fahad2
Research Superman Prime, actually here it is:

He still loses in the end because the artist forgot to draw him a penis...
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Goku would definitely kill him.

M.U.G.E.N Battle:
Ultimate SSJ3 Goku VS Superman: The battle of the Gods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGvT...feature=related

Fanmade movie:
Goku SSJ4 vs Post-Crisis Superman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXfQ...=watch_response
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Just a thought, but considering that Goku does know martial arts, and Superman doesn't I think that would play a large role in a fight. Even if Supes is out classing Goku in a lot of ways, Goku would definitely be able to damage him, and hit him.
I say Goku wins in the end. Plus there is the matter of Superman having no dick. Goku has actually showed hi dick before, but we can tell by looking at Superman's tights that he doesn't have balls or a dick. Just look at that picture up there if you need proof...
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Pre crisis superman is so unapologetically overpowered. I would call this a one sided stomping for the last son of Krypton.
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Pre-Crisis Superman isn't a fair match for anyone. He doesn't really have limitations. Even the Silver Surfer is at a disadvantage. Not surprising considering the only person who he couldn't beat was the godlike Mr. Mxyzptlk.

Oh, and DBGT sucks.
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