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Aurongroove
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#21 “Quote” Edit Post
how about a wall ender that actually works most of the time.

also, I wonder if the move seen in the video of TTT2 gives beak a HW! that he has so far been missing.
I can imagine that move being used in some sort of d/b3,3~f (that move) HW!
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#22 “Quote” Edit Post
the option to feint one or two of his very obvious low kicks would really help with people who win him because they know all his strings and wait for the low parry. something that works like his f+3,3,2 and f+3,3,b+2 would be perfect

I can emagine moves like FLA 3,3,4(cancel) where he all but strikes the kick would stop them being essentially completely useless strings against anyone who's fought Beak once ever and open them up vastly to the game.

his game is already about canceling into FLA so making some of low kicks cancel-able wouldn't change his feel dramatically, but it would stop a lot of his commands being completely useless to someone who knows them

Good "faints" might be
FLA 3,3,4(feint)
or 3,3,3,d+4(feint)
WS 4,4,4(feint)
d/b 4 (feint)

I doubt even a frame advantage would be needed. like some of the feints I can think of with Paul or Asuka, just the surprise of the hit not coming, would make people think twice, and you could use it to see if the opponent "went for" the parry, and if they didn't use it to judge wither it;s safe to punish them all day with lows,

as far as improvements go It's one which would suite his already established style, open up some of his redundant strings, and add a nice new dimension without needing to resort to rounding him off in a way which makes him the same as every other dam character.
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#23 “Quote” Edit Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Sv...player_embedded

Enjoy enjoy!! No quality gameplay so far, but it seems Baek & Hwo have some sort of charging move, IDK has no hit yet just whiffs.

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#24 “Quote” Edit Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hcRwvfO49M#t=52m21s

First thing first: super SS is still in!!!

New stuff:
- leg-shaking faint like Sarah in VF... could it be low parry?
- FLA 3,3~f <-- this is a big one!
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#26 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Lord TKD
ff+3... 4,3,3 don work!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/kwonbic...u/2/25wPhPi3cVo
He wasn't close enough I don't think. Off axis too. He should have dashed.
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#27 “Quote” Edit Post
there were more f,f+3 tests in the other vids, and it clearly shows that f,f+3 no longer guarantees 4,3,3~f.

I thought I was going to quit Baek, but his FLE 3,3~f is giving me some ideas. I think I am coming back for him in TTT2.
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#28 “Quote” Edit Post
Meah you're right. I guess he has db+3 to connect.
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#29 “Quote” Edit Post
yeah, d/b+3,3~f may do the trick.

Also FLE 3,3~f F+3 may be wicked. I can only imagine people to duck, only to eat a fat mid in the face.
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#30 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Inserity
He wasn't close enough I don't think. Off axis too. He should have dashed.


yes, in vid 3 of maxi,

work!!!

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#31 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Lord TKD
yes, in vid 3 of maxi,

work!!!

thank
Yes, 3rd vid shows very clearly ff3, dash 4,3,3~f.
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#32 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by NoodleHead
yeah, d/b+3,3~f may do the trick.

Also FLE 3,3~f F+3 may be wicked. I can only imagine people to duck, only to eat a fat mid in the face.
You are spending waaay too much time in the Yoshi forum

The leg feint could be:

- Blocking in FLA stance
- FLA low parry
- FLA wd, with some special properties

However, he remains the main for me

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#33 “Quote” Edit Post
More and more Baek footage woot woot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wPhPi3cVo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YdM5KAcFXg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_JHL72bQE

As seen, there is much trouble with f,f+3, seems it requires a dash in now every time which reduces it's consistency.

No stylish combos either

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#34 “Quote” Edit Post
lolol. I will be back for Baek though. I'm already start my super FLA ss practice and other devious shit w/ my hitbox.

(sorry to abandon u guys for too long. I am back now)
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#35 “Quote” Edit Post
Ok look here at 28:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NW9...p;feature=feedu

FLA 3,3,4 is here! What the heck I thought it turned into a high kick and FLA 3,3,d+4 went into d+4 strings? Maybe that is the FLA 3,3,d+4?
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#36 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Inserity
Ok look here at 28:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NW9...p;feature=feedu

FLA 3,3,4 is here! What the heck I thought it turned into a high kick and FLA 3,3,d+4 went into d+4 strings? Maybe that is the FLA 3,3,d+4?
That was probably FLA 3,3~f FLA f+4, executed very fast (the high string) and FLA 3,3,4 is left untouched IMO

Also in the beginning of that vid there's a tag throw, i think 5:14 or something. Lookin good

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#37 “Quote” Edit Post
TTT2 Baek is great, lots of video's coming up.

FLA 3,3~f might be one of his best new attacks. It REALLY makes him look like Hwo now, but this is like the move Baek always needed. I'm smelling tier raises
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Keep guessing, till my db+3,3~f damage accumulates, idiot.
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#38 “Quote” Edit Post
last mid kick of baek rush(d+4,3,3,3) doesnt stun on ch anymore.. it KNDs instead.. damn it!
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#39 “Quote” Edit Post
Originally posted by Marin
FLA 3,3~f might be one of his best new attacks. It REALLY makes him look like Hwo now, but this is like the move Baek always needed. I'm smelling tier raises


it all depends on the speed.

If it's fast enough I can see that being used in two ways:

bringing FLA f+3 into combos as near-wall bind enders for W!
I imagine something like Fla3,3~f, f+3 W! would be quiet easy to implement with the new cancel.

for his mixups, the added headache of chains starting from d+4 after FLA 3,3~f, might help Baek players in advanced matches.

my house mate is starting to really turn up the heat with his tekken playing, and I need some high tier trickery if I want to continue using Baek for casuals and tournaments.
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#40 “Quote” Edit Post
You know what I would really like to see? u/f+3,4~f FLA. Hunting Hawk cancel!!!!

Since it's slow like a mofo it would give plus frames on block, maybe linear and usable after B!

Pwnsome!!

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