though 1 thing which ,is minor anyways but the qcf and 2 dont have to be done at the same time on the JF throw (d/f+1+3, qcf+2), infact you can just do 360's with the stick and aslong as you time the 2 it'll do the unblockable sparkle version.
Maybe it was posted in the other topic because that's an appropriate place to post it?
Shinjin, I may look into those, but I suspect you've just reminded me I was going to do it for Chreddy (my mains) and it probably won't happen until then.
One idea I had though, if we could assemble a list of moves with -1 recovery, -2, -3, -4, -5 etc. people could test these things without needing a pstick (would need a friend though, R.I.P. command capture).
Originally posted by noodalls
Maybe it was posted in the other topic because that's an appropriate place to post it?
Shinjin, I may look into those, but I suspect you've just reminded me I was going to do it for Chreddy (my mains) and it probably won't happen until then.
One idea I had though, if we could assemble a list of moves with -1 recovery, -2, -3, -4, -5 etc. people could test these things without needing a pstick (would need a friend though, R.I.P. command capture).
LOOK IN TO MY EYES, YOU ARE FEELING SLEEPY, VERY SLEEPY, YOU WILL LISTEN TO MY COMMAND, YOU WILL DO PAUL BEFORE EDDY, YOU WILL BELIVE YOU ARE A CHICKEN UNTILL PAUL IS COMPLETE, ONCE I CLAP MY HANDS TWICE YOU WILL BE IN THE ROOM WITH US.
Originally posted by verandion
what do the frame testers have against d/f+2?
i dont know but that frame data i posted was unedited from the original post, i just put it there to move the formated version to a laptop for easy updating.
Originally posted by Shinjin
i dont know but that frame data i posted was unedited from the original post, i just put it there to move the formated version to a laptop for easy updating.
figured it out...
its because its a BASIC move and not considered a special.
1 h 10 +1 +8 +8
1,2 h,h - -1 +7 +7
1,4 h,l S -10 +1 +1
2 h 10 ?0 +6 +6
2,3 h,h - -12 D KZD
2,D+3 h,l S -15 -1 -1
3 m 16? - + +
3,2 m,h - -1,2? + KZD
f+2 h 12 ?0 +6 +6
f+2,3 h,h - -12 + +?
f+2,3,1 h,h,m - -10,12? +(SM) +(SM)
f+1+2 m 20 ?0 ?0S
(+10GS) UTD
f+1+4 m 20? -14 D KFD
d/f+1 m 14 -2 +4 +4
d/f+1,1 m,h - -5 +2 +2
d/f+1,1,2 m,h,m - -9 KZD KZD
d/f+1,b m 14 +1 +7 +7
d/f+2 m 15 -7
d/f+3 m 16? -9 +2 +2
d/f+3,4 m,m - -12,13? + YRD(+)
d/f+4 m 23? -3 +10G YRD(+6)
d+1 m 14? -9? +2? +6?S
d+1,2(hold) m 14S -9? +2? +6?S
d+1,2 m,m - -17 D KFD
d+1,2 m,m - +20G D D
d+1,4 m,l - -31 +? +?
d+1,4,2 m,l,m - -14? D KFD
d+4 l 15 -33 KBD KBD
d+4 l 15 -33 -17? KBD
d+4,2 l,m - -28 D KFD
d+4:2 l,m - -18? -9?
d+4:2:1+2 l,m,m - -17 D D
d+1+2 m 12? -16 D D
d/b+2 m 13~15? -5? +6? +6?
d/b+3 l 16S -17 -3 -3
b+1 h 12 -3? +8 +8
b+1,2 h,m - -12 +4S TD
b+2 m 22 -7 YD KZD
b+3 h 14~15 -10 KZD KZD
b+4 l 21 -13 +1 +1
b+1+2 h - ?0? TD TD
u/f+2 m 39 +8 FD FD
u/b+3 m 15 -17 U U
u+3 m 15 -17 U U
u/f+3 m 15 -17 U U
u/f+3,4 m,m - -12? U U
f,f+2 m 15(16) -18 -5 -5
f,f+2,1 m,m - -12 UFD KFD
f,f+2,1,b(hold) m - -? -? -?
f,f+2,2 m,l - -19 TKU TKU
f,f+2,2,b(hold) m S -30 -16 -16
f,f+2:1 m,h - -4 D D
f,f+3 m 15(16) -16? U U
f,f+3,4 m,m - -13 U U
f,f+3,4,4 m,m,h - -5 KMD KMD
f,f+3,4,f+4 m,m,m - -14 D? D?
f,f+3,4,d+4 m,m,l S -17? -6 -6
f,f+4 m 27~31S(28) -2~+2 TD TD
b,b+1+2 ! 63 KFD KFD KFD
b,f+1 h 33(33) -12 FD FD
ws+2 m 15 -14 MU MU
fc,d/f+2 m 16(16~ -17 -6 -6
fc,d/f+2,1 m,m - -17? D KFD
fc,d/f+2,2 m,l - -19 TKU TKU
fc,d/f+2,2,b(hold) m S -26 -14 -14
fc,d/f+1+2 l (~ -14? KBD KBD
D(60frames) - - - - -
D(60frames), u+2+3+4 m,m 14(116D~ - FU FU
D(60frames), u+2+3+4 m,m 14(117D?~ - -S -S
ss+1 h 20(30~ +2? KMTD KMTD
ss+3 l 19(29~ -13 +2 +11
d+2(while opponent is grounded) l 18 -12 -1 -1
COMMAND HIT RANGE HIT FRAMES BLOCK ADV HIT ADV COUNTERHIT ADV
qcf - - - - -
qcf+1 h 17(19~ -7 YKU YKU
qcf+2 m 13(15~ -15 KFD KFD
qcf+2 m 13(15~ -17 KFD KFD
qcf+1+2 h (~ -14 KBD KBD
qcf+3 h 17(19~ -19? +1 KBD
qcf+3+4 m (~ -9? FU FU
COMMAND HIT RANGE HIT FRAMES BLOCK ADV HIT ADV COUNTERHIT ADV
qcb - - - - -
qcb+1 m 16(18~ -9 UTD TU
qcb+2 m 15(17~ -8 FD FD
qcb+3 l 18S(20~ -21 -10 KBD
qcb+3,2 l,m - -10? +2? +2?
qcb+3,2,1 l,m,h - -? KMD KFD